Silvertop vs. Gze

SILVER2NICE · 07-25-2009, 07:40 PM

O.k so after some quick checking around, and research it looks as if stock for stock the silvertop smashes the 4agze head to head.....so as I navigate the path for more hp from my 88 na Im wondering, 4agte, silvertop, bt, gze, even the 5sfe Ive read would be superior to the gze. I am wondering why anyone would pay for the gze swap, over the others, and how much faster approx. would a silvertop be than a gze?
thanks in advance

328FTW · 07-25-2009, 07:56 PM

Since when does a silvertop smash a 4agze? 4agze has torque and a broad powerband for a small motor and the 20V are a little more peaky. Side by side the 4agze pulls ahead then the 20V with peak power hauls it in slowly and only if its a completely stock 4agze it doesn't take much to bump a little more power from them. They are pretty much even just the 20V are easy to get in good condition and generally lower mileage and/or unthrashed.

4agze has more potential for turbo cheaper and easier than the 20V as well. You can up the boost with a pulley no problem. The 20V you can do work and make them better but its harder and its all engine unless you turbo it.

I'm also not sure about a 5sfe being better they have torque but not hp 130 hp is not huge. I can't see it beating a 4agze. The 3sge (2nd gen on) takes a dump on the 4agze, the 3sgte takes a dump on that, I could keep going.

ag86IL · 07-26-2009, 07:39 PM

3sgte

tksmr2 · 07-26-2009, 07:56 PM

Silvertop.. hahaha.. blacktop is at least in the gze league.. somewhat.. lol..

Silvertop is a good 'stock' 4age replacement, not much more.

8589 · 07-26-2009, 08:34 PM

"20V are easy to get in good condition and generally lower mileage and/or unthrashed."

well said. that's about the only advantage, both are good, the Z is a, one time, factory pure blood with less horses but lots of low end torque; the 20v is capable if mistreated from take off, he need the revs to shine, the z can go from smooth to scalded ape mood in no time no effort..who disagree never drove a tight SC..

Jackstand Queen · 07-26-2009, 11:29 PM

I'd be willing to race a blacktop or silvertop for Pinks, (no bottle).

07-25-2009, 07:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
SILVER2NICE No Skills Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 31 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Silvertop vs. Gze O.k so after some quick checking around, and research it looks as if stock for stock the silvertop smashes the 4agze head to head.....so as I navigate the path for more hp from my 88 na Im wondering, 4agte, silvertop, bt, gze, even the 5sfe Ive read would be superior to the gze. I am wondering why anyone would pay for the gze swap, over the others, and how much faster approx. would a silvertop be than a gze? thanks in advance

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07-25-2009, 07:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
328FTW 3vzfe tinkering Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,531 Thanks: 12 Thanked 99 Times in 83 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Since when does a silvertop smash a 4agze? 4agze has torque and a broad powerband for a small motor and the 20V are a little more peaky. Side by side the 4agze pulls ahead then the 20V with peak power hauls it in slowly and only if its a completely stock 4agze it doesn't take much to bump a little more power from them. They are pretty much even just the 20V are easy to get in good condition and generally lower mileage and/or unthrashed. 4agze has more potential for turbo cheaper and easier than the 20V as well. You can up the boost with a pulley no problem. The 20V you can do work and make them better but its harder and its all engine unless you turbo it. I'm also not sure about a 5sfe being better they have torque but not hp 130 hp is not huge. I can't see it beating a 4agze. The 3sge (2nd gen on) takes a dump on the 4agze, the 3sgte takes a dump on that, I could keep going.

07-26-2009, 07:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
ag86IL No Skills Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	3sgte

07-26-2009, 07:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
tksmr2 No Skills Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: South Western PA Posts: 395 Thanks: 6 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Silvertop.. hahaha.. blacktop is at least in the gze league.. somewhat.. lol.. Silvertop is a good 'stock' 4age replacement, not much more.

07-26-2009, 08:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
8589 No Skills Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 43 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	"20V are easy to get in good condition and generally lower mileage and/or unthrashed." well said. that's about the only advantage, both are good, the Z is a, one time, factory pure blood with less horses but lots of low end torque; the 20v is capable if mistreated from take off, he need the revs to shine, the z can go from smooth to scalded ape mood in no time no effort..who disagree never drove a tight SC..

07-26-2009, 11:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jackstand Queen Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 677 Thanks: 52 Thanked 56 Times in 53 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I'd be willing to race a blacktop or silvertop for Pinks, (no bottle).