Passenger side Axel

englishmike · 09-24-2009, 09:43 AM

Are passenger side axels for an 88 SC still available ? Where can I find one?

englishmike · 09-24-2009, 09:51 AM

Are the n/a and s/c axles the same?

muffinman · 09-24-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by englishmike

Are the n/a and s/c axles the same?

NO

muffinman · 09-24-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by englishmike

Are passenger side axels for an 88 SC still available ? Where can I find one?

IIRC this is the one that is no longer available but you can have your old one rebuilt. you could also use an N/A tranny instead.

jsnod25 · 09-24-2009, 10:00 AM

SC
ToyoDIY.com

N/A
ToyoDIY.com

take a side by side look at them and see if they are... im not possitive, but i think the SC is different from the NA, because of the marginal weight... but again im not possitive.

**EDIT**

MUFFINMAN ::shakes fist violently:: you beat me to it...

englishmike · 09-24-2009, 10:01 AM

Can an old one be constantly rebuild and refurbished? Or at some point will the whole unit have to be replaced?

Where are the rebuild kits available from?

muffinman · 09-24-2009, 10:02 AM

as long as there is no major damage then i don't see why not.

curvesrgood · 09-24-2009, 03:35 PM

It isn't a kit, it is a service... check your local listings for axel shops. Our local one is axels unlimited or something like that. I think they're about 130 each or something from the place I checked... just bearings that need replacing, pressing on, and then you repack the whole end unit with grease. You can repack one yourself, but that's not going to fix a problem with the axel if it is going to the bad. The N/A and S/C axels are not available through toyota nor or are they available aftermarket anymore through most suppliers. I know because I tried to buy the last passenger side one in a warehouse... but when it came in it was a driver's side so I didn't take it home.

toyotaspeed90 · 09-24-2009, 03:41 PM

the only thing that is the same is the outboar spline size and count.... hubs from 87-early 89 are the same for n/a and s/c.

other than that... the axles are in no way, shape, or form the same... inboard shafts on the s/c is longer, larger diameter, and have a different spline count. The joint is built completely different (s/c axles use no studs... uses more of what looks like a machine allen bolt), and the shaft size is completely different. IRIC the ball & cage is completely different as well.

when I worked at a parts shop, when I was bulding my 87 s/c... I couldn't find axles anywhere... toyota stated "we might be able to get them, but no guarantee.... and they are $500 each plus a core".... that was about 5 years ago or so.... I got mine used.

mr2tim · 09-24-2009, 09:23 PM

I do believe Jackstand Queen may have bought a new pass side (the long one)recently for his SC that interchanges with a Camry or something similair, you might write him for references. (He's cranky so be polite! please)

As for toyotaspeed90 here's a mystery for ya.

I pitched that very expensive to rebuild E-51 S/C tranny, installed a NA c-52.
The axles on the c-52 didn't fit the axle carriers from the SC and I had to use the carriers from the c-52. (the tow-in adjusters lengthened too BTW)
Any idea what was going on there?

(The cool part of this swap is that I now have easy to obtain rear brake rotors from the NA which are different from the hard to find SC size.)

englishmike · 09-25-2009, 09:52 AM

Thats guys, it shouldnt be an issue finding someone that rebuilds axles.

toyotaspeed90 · 09-25-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mr2tim

I do believe Jackstand Queen may have bought a new pass side (the long one)recently for his SC that interchanges with a Camry or something similair, you might write him for references. (He's cranky so be polite! please)

As for toyotaspeed90 here's a mystery for ya.

I pitched that very expensive to rebuild E-51 S/C tranny, installed a NA c-52.
The axles on the c-52 didn't fit the axle carriers from the SC and I had to use the carriers from the c-52. (the tow-in adjusters lengthened too BTW)
Any idea what was going on there?

(The cool part of this swap is that I now have easy to obtain rear brake rotors from the NA which are different from the hard to find SC size.)

rotors should be the same...... 87-89 all have the same stuff back there in terms of suspension and brakes (for the same build date.... late 89 is not the same as 87-early 89)

In terms of "carriers" you would have to be more specifc there....

like I said, both C series and E series axles are very different.... the only thing that's the same is the outboard spline size and shaft, since both the n/a and the s/c use the same hub. Other than that, the size (diameters, length), spline counts, build type, are completely different -- so you would need to use complete C series axles and complete E series axles.... nothing is interchangeable...

n/a vs. s/c...

notice the joint build is completely different.

mcmr2 · 09-27-2009, 03:22 PM

I just happened to check last night on axles for an 88sc manual, and they can be ordered at Advanced Auto Parts for $69.99 IIRC. And yes I checked to make sure the parts numbers were different for the SC and NA, they're different.

-I just checked the actual shipping info, and its not available eventhough the price is listed and it says it is. So yeah it'll probably have to be rebuilt.

mr3 · 09-27-2009, 04:03 PM

There are the automatic axles available I know that for a fact. I'm 90% sure that the 5 speed ones are not though. I work at a parts store and they looked and looked and couldnt find them for sale for the manual car.

te51levin · 09-27-2009, 06:03 PM

Mike, try Raxles, America's premier supplier of OE quality CV Axles and CV joints | Raxles.com - I have not dealt with them personally, but they have a good reputation among MR2 people.

Jackstand Queen · 09-29-2009, 10:59 AM

The driver's side SC axle can use the Camry axle. But not the passenger side.

Many online parts stores will mistakenly list having an SC passenger axle available. However, what they are offering is almost certainly a passenger axle for the N.A. transmission. I ought to know, because I ordered a couple of them.

te51levin summed up my take on the situation: search nationwide for a axle specialty shop with a good reputation and ship it off for a rebuild.

englishmike · 09-29-2009, 11:03 AM

When the axel needs rebuilding, what exactly is being rebuilt? Is it just the bearings and seals?

toyotaspeed90 · 09-30-2009, 03:32 PM

they will probably change the bearings, possibly the cage, the boots, and check for any damage done to either splines.

09-24-2009, 09:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
englishmike No Skills Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Passenger side Axel Are passenger side axels for an 88 SC still available ? Where can I find one?

09-24-2009, 03:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
curvesrgood three mk1's Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NC Posts: 345 Thanks: 7 Thanked 26 Times in 21 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	It isn't a kit, it is a service... check your local listings for axel shops. Our local one is axels unlimited or something like that. I think they're about 130 each or something from the place I checked... just bearings that need replacing, pressing on, and then you repack the whole end unit with grease. You can repack one yourself, but that's not going to fix a problem with the axel if it is going to the bad. The N/A and S/C axels are not available through toyota nor or are they available aftermarket anymore through most suppliers. I know because I tried to buy the last passenger side one in a warehouse... but when it came in it was a driver's side so I didn't take it home. Last edited by curvesrgood; 09-24-2009 at 03:45 PM.

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mcmr2 Some Skills Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: atlanta, ga Posts: 67 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I just happened to check last night on axles for an 88sc manual, and they can be ordered at Advanced Auto Parts for $69.99 IIRC. And yes I checked to make sure the parts numbers were different for the SC and NA, they're different. -I just checked the actual shipping info, and its not available eventhough the price is listed and it says it is. So yeah it'll probably have to be rebuilt. Last edited by mcmr2; 09-27-2009 at 04:57 PM.

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09-24-2009, 09:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
englishmike No Skills Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Are the n/a and s/c axles the same?

09-24-2009, 10:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
jsnod25 How did this get changed? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Va beach, va Posts: 128 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	SC ToyoDIY.com N/A ToyoDIY.com take a side by side look at them and see if they are... im not possitive, but i think the SC is different from the NA, because of the marginal weight... but again im not possitive. EDIT MUFFINMAN ::shakes fist violently:: you beat me to it...

09-24-2009, 10:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
englishmike No Skills Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Can an old one be constantly rebuild and refurbished? Or at some point will the whole unit have to be replaced? Where are the rebuild kits available from?

09-24-2009, 10:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
muffinman Brain Surgeon Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,811 Thanks: 24 Thanked 102 Times in 99 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	as long as there is no major damage then i don't see why not.

09-24-2009, 03:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
toyotaspeed90 No Skills Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 433 Thanks: 0 Thanked 32 Times in 32 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	the only thing that is the same is the outboar spline size and count.... hubs from 87-early 89 are the same for n/a and s/c. other than that... the axles are in no way, shape, or form the same... inboard shafts on the s/c is longer, larger diameter, and have a different spline count. The joint is built completely different (s/c axles use no studs... uses more of what looks like a machine allen bolt), and the shaft size is completely different. IRIC the ball & cage is completely different as well. when I worked at a parts shop, when I was bulding my 87 s/c... I couldn't find axles anywhere... toyota stated "we might be able to get them, but no guarantee.... and they are $500 each plus a core".... that was about 5 years ago or so.... I got mine used.

09-24-2009, 09:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
mr2tim SUPERcharZed ToyZ RacZer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 690 Thanks: 2 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I do believe Jackstand Queen may have bought a new pass side (the long one)recently for his SC that interchanges with a Camry or something similair, you might write him for references. (He's cranky so be polite! please) As for toyotaspeed90 here's a mystery for ya. I pitched that very expensive to rebuild E-51 S/C tranny, installed a NA c-52. The axles on the c-52 didn't fit the axle carriers from the SC and I had to use the carriers from the c-52. (the tow-in adjusters lengthened too BTW) Any idea what was going on there? (The cool part of this swap is that I now have easy to obtain rear brake rotors from the NA which are different from the hard to find SC size.)

09-25-2009, 09:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
englishmike No Skills Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Thats guys, it shouldnt be an issue finding someone that rebuilds axles.

09-27-2009, 04:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
mr3 Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Plymouth Mtg, Pa Posts: 848 Thanks: 19 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	There are the automatic axles available I know that for a fact. I'm 90% sure that the 5 speed ones are not though. I work at a parts store and they looked and looked and couldnt find them for sale for the manual car.

09-27-2009, 06:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
te51levin Lithia Toyota Parts Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,928 Thanks: 33 Thanked 146 Times in 125 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (126/100% )	Mike, try Raxles, America's premier supplier of OE quality CV Axles and CV joints \| Raxles.com - I have not dealt with them personally, but they have a good reputation among MR2 people.

09-29-2009, 10:59 AM	#16 (permalink)
Jackstand Queen Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 677 Thanks: 52 Thanked 56 Times in 53 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	The driver's side SC axle can use the Camry axle. But not the passenger side. Many online parts stores will mistakenly list having an SC passenger axle available. However, what they are offering is almost certainly a passenger axle for the N.A. transmission. I ought to know, because I ordered a couple of them. te51levin summed up my take on the situation: search nationwide for a axle specialty shop with a good reputation and ship it off for a rebuild.

09-29-2009, 11:03 AM	#17 (permalink)
englishmike No Skills Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	When the axel needs rebuilding, what exactly is being rebuilt? Is it just the bearings and seals?

09-30-2009, 03:32 PM	#18 (permalink)
toyotaspeed90 No Skills Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 433 Thanks: 0 Thanked 32 Times in 32 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	they will probably change the bearings, possibly the cage, the boots, and check for any damage done to either splines.