4agze Alternator

GoBoGo · 10-08-2009, 11:28 AM

I am looking at buying a 4agze Alternator i would like it shipped to 96367 with a tracking number let me know if anyone has one for sale. thank you

traintech86 · 10-08-2009, 12:22 PM

does the gze actualy have a special alt? i figured that most alts were pretty much the same...

GoBoGo · 10-08-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by traintech86

does the gze actualy have a special alt? i figured that most alts were pretty much the same...

I am not sure but this is what i found this far

88 SC mr2

Nippondenso; 70 Amps; Internal Fan Alternator; 5 Groove Serpentine Belt; Externally Regulated Alternator; Clocked At 6:30

88 NA mr2

Nippondenso; 70 Amps; Internal Fan Alternator; 5 Groove Serpentine Belt; Integrated Circuit; Clocked At 12:00

The Clocked time is different and i don't know if that make a big difference. Any info would help thank you! any one have one for sale?

muffinman · 10-08-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBoGo

The Clocked time is different and i don't know if that make a big difference. Any info would help thank you! any one have one for sale?

The mounting is different.

GoBoGo · 10-08-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by muffinman

The mounting is different.

Thank you anything else i should know?

muffinman · 10-08-2009, 02:38 PM

I just looked at a parts store site and they show the same Bosch part number for an 88 N/A or 88 SC so i'm not sure.

donnyavery · 10-08-2009, 04:30 PM

the sc alt mounts differently then the na but i did find the the 4af fwd corolla has the same alt as the aw11sc i dont know if this helps

GoBoGo · 10-08-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by donnyavery

the sc alt mounts differently then the na but i did find the the 4af fwd corolla has the same alt as the aw11sc i dont know if this helps

Thank you very much it really helps. ill go look for one today and let you know how it went. I am in japan and its really hard to find parts for older cars.

mr2_mk1.5 · 10-19-2009, 07:17 AM

Just for your info the clock posistion is the relevance between front half of case and back half meaning you can take out the case bolts and rotate the front half(pulley side) till the mounts line up to the ze

toyotaspeed90 · 10-19-2009, 06:41 PM

Wow, all of the "helpful" information here is wrong.

As stated in the mk1 forums, the gze uses an externally regulated alternator, that has a wider lower mount and an extended section where the pulley sits, because it has to use the outer wheel of the crank pulley.

the n/a (4age) alternator is nowhere near the same. The corolla (4afe/7afe) is nowhere near the same as it has a different clock position from the 4age alt, but that's it -- the lower mount is the same size and it's internally regulated.

the gze alt is special to the MK1 s/c's... unfortunately.

you may be able to take yours in and have it rebuilt if you have any special companies.... heck, they might even have something meant for another car sitting on the shelf that works.... but there is not another Toyota in the US that uses the same alt.

GoBoGo · 10-19-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by toyotaspeed90

Wow, all of the "helpful" information here is wrong.

As stated in the mk1 forums, the gze uses an externally regulated alternator, that has a wider lower mount and an extended section where the pulley sits, because it has to use the outer wheel of the crank pulley.

the n/a (4age) alternator is nowhere near the same. The corolla (4afe/7afe) is nowhere near the same as it has a different clock position from the 4age alt, but that's it -- the lower mount is the same size and it's internally regulated.

the gze alt is special to the MK1 s/c's... unfortunately.

you may be able to take yours in and have it rebuilt if you have any special companies.... heck, they might even have something meant for another car sitting on the shelf that works.... but there is not another Toyota in the US that uses the same alt.

Thank you! do you know of any alternator in japan that might fit>?

mr2_mk1.5 · 10-19-2009, 09:10 PM

I was just stating the clock posistioning, I'm not the one who said the part numbers were the same or that the alternators are the same, I have an ze alt sitting in my shop but shipping to japan would probaly be outragoeous

GoBoGo · 10-22-2009, 06:43 AM

Just an update for all the gentlemen that are helping out. I ordered an alternator from Kragen auto parts online it was like 200 dollars with shipping. It is taking a long time to arrive at my home of record maybe i am just not patient its only been 5 days give or take. What sucks the most is that after it arrives there i will have to have my family back in the states ship it here so double whammy for me longer wait. If i may say this mr2 runs like a champ i installed a new clutch and it pulls great i been running the vehicle on just battery recharging it everyday with a battery charger from my work place kinda sucks taking out the battery everyday but oh well it works for now. once again thanks to all that have had a helping hand or in this case words....

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traintech86 Traintech86 on all im's Join Date: May 2009 Location: Norfolk VA Posts: 913 Thanks: 13 Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	does the gze actualy have a special alt? i figured that most alts were pretty much the same...

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muffinman Brain Surgeon Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,797 Thanks: 24 Thanked 102 Times in 99 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I just looked at a parts store site and they show the same Bosch part number for an 88 N/A or 88 SC so i'm not sure.

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donnyavery body tech Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: pa Posts: 180 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	the sc alt mounts differently then the na but i did find the the 4af fwd corolla has the same alt as the aw11sc i dont know if this helps

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mr2_mk1.5 Some Skills Join Date: May 2009 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 97 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Just for your info the clock posistion is the relevance between front half of case and back half meaning you can take out the case bolts and rotate the front half(pulley side) till the mounts line up to the ze

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toyotaspeed90 No Skills Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 422 Thanks: 0 Thanked 32 Times in 32 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Wow, all of the "helpful" information here is wrong. As stated in the mk1 forums, the gze uses an externally regulated alternator, that has a wider lower mount and an extended section where the pulley sits, because it has to use the outer wheel of the crank pulley. the n/a (4age) alternator is nowhere near the same. The corolla (4afe/7afe) is nowhere near the same as it has a different clock position from the 4age alt, but that's it -- the lower mount is the same size and it's internally regulated. the gze alt is special to the MK1 s/c's... unfortunately. you may be able to take yours in and have it rebuilt if you have any special companies.... heck, they might even have something meant for another car sitting on the shelf that works.... but there is not another Toyota in the US that uses the same alt.

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mr2_mk1.5 Some Skills Join Date: May 2009 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 97 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I was just stating the clock posistioning, I'm not the one who said the part numbers were the same or that the alternators are the same, I have an ze alt sitting in my shop but shipping to japan would probaly be outragoeous

10-22-2009, 06:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
GoBoGo Some Skills Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 89 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Just an update for all the gentlemen that are helping out. I ordered an alternator from Kragen auto parts online it was like 200 dollars with shipping. It is taking a long time to arrive at my home of record maybe i am just not patient its only been 5 days give or take. What sucks the most is that after it arrives there i will have to have my family back in the states ship it here so double whammy for me longer wait. If i may say this mr2 runs like a champ i installed a new clutch and it pulls great i been running the vehicle on just battery recharging it everyday with a battery charger from my work place kinda sucks taking out the battery everyday but oh well it works for now. once again thanks to all that have had a helping hand or in this case words....