35SFGE "the frankenstein" - Page 2

Sang · 01-07-2009, 05:29 PM

I very much agree.

MR-3vz · 01-07-2009, 05:36 PM

I was pretty tempted to do another 5sgte but then the v6 bug bit me. Now im knees deep in that, plan on dropping the motor in sometime next week.

-J

SW21T · 01-07-2009, 11:57 PM

I heard the 5s is crappy and can't handle turbo and will blow very easily due to it being an aluminum block..Is this true..Also in the long run what would be better to fix up..Like getting up to 500hp at least

Sang · 01-08-2009, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YELLOW_MR2

I heard the 5s is crappy and can't handle turbo and will blow very easily due to it being an aluminum block..Is this true..Also in the long run what would be better to fix up..Like getting up to 500hp at least

Why are you repeating the same crap from another thread? In that same thread Tom and I both told you that the 5S block is cast iron and strong

Redstar · 01-08-2009, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YELLOW_MR2

I heard the 5s is crappy and can't handle turbo and will blow very easily due to it being an aluminum block..Is this true..Also in the long run what would be better to fix up..Like getting up to 500hp at least

Go stick a magnet on the block (not the head) and see what happens.

Then read one of these fine interent sites that google has been kind enough to provide free of charge:
is aluminum magnetic - Google Search

500hp... Really? I can't imagine trying to daily drive the thing but here's a good idea of how to get there: ATS Racing 550 whp complete build ups

On topic, depending on what your goals are it might be easier and more cost effective to install more aggressive cams into the 5S head.

wagonis · 01-08-2009, 03:36 PM

I read about using the GTE cams in the 5SFE setup, but there is a small amount of modification to be done.

Redstar · 01-08-2009, 03:56 PM

^ I'm going to guess thats a bad idea. At the very least the cam gear setup on the 3S is very different than the 5S.

Still, interesting idea. I'm searching now, but do you have a link to the thread?

wagonis · 01-08-2009, 04:30 PM

^ I can't find it right now, I'll do a search when I get out of work.

Redstar · 01-08-2009, 04:43 PM

I'm not having any luck finding it either. Please post the link when you can, and I'll do the same if I do find it.

SW21T · 01-08-2009, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sang

Why are you repeating the same crap from another thread? In that same thread Tom and I both told you that the 5S block is cast iron and strong

making sure..

TomsMR2 · 01-08-2009, 09:26 PM

i want to see links to where you got this whole aluminum 5s idea anyway..

SW21T · 01-08-2009, 09:33 PM

I don't know I read this before I bought my MR2..also my friend told me, because he wanted one and he did his 'Research" before he got his silvia..Let me look it up

Edit: ok I found it..diff. b/t the 5sfe and 3sgte - 6G Celicas Forums

I know its a celica's site but since the celicas also carry the 5s I figured it also ment the MR2

Sang · 01-09-2009, 12:16 AM

One idiot, from one post, back in 2005. If you had "researched" here and on mr2oc, you'll find hundreds of threads saying otherwise.

Also, if you had continued reading that thread, the VERY next reply is:

Quote:

Originally Posted by slvrblt

The 5s-fe also has a cast iron block

MR-3vz · 01-09-2009, 10:37 AM

Wow Sang... A bit snappy are'nt we... lol... Breath in, Breath out...

But Yellow MR2, im pretty sure you could have researched that a little better. That information is available on plenty of places online and a simple google search would've answered that question.

-J

Sang · 01-09-2009, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR-3vz

Wow Sang... A bit snappy are'nt we... lol... Breath in, Breath out...

lol

I was quite calm the first time it was brought up by Yellow_MR2 and happily answered questions brought up in the previous thread. Now it's more of an annoyance that the same misinformation is still being brought up, by the same person.

help! what to buy?

SW21T · 01-09-2009, 11:07 PM

I didnt have an MR2 at that time so I wasnt really trying to find out..that was when i first saw an MR2..Originally i was going to get a 94 turbo RX-7

Redstar · 02-05-2009, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wagonis

I read about using the GTE cams in the 5SFE setup, but there is a small amount of modification to be done.

Just a quick update. I was not able to find any info on this.

wagonis · 02-05-2009, 11:31 AM

Neither have I...maybe I was thinking about something else. Wow, I need to lay off the pipe.

SW21T · 05-13-2009, 10:55 PM

now that you all have informed me of the 5sgte, im really considering it, but if i build it, its going to be my way with better rods, pistons, cams, and all the goodies but im going to do this seperately like get another 5s block and go from there that way i can keep my 5sfte running.. To do this what crankshaft do you use? I kept reading that you use the 3s and have it machined to the 5s block. Is that true...and while reading this i saw that i irrated Sang, Sorry about that, i know now what it is, been doing a lot of research

Hsien-Ko MR2 · 05-13-2009, 11:44 PM

I would use the 5s block. As far as Im concerned the 5sfe is probably the strongest and most reliable engine to build upon.

01-08-2009, 09:26 PM	#31 (permalink)
TomsMR2 Still not heraldo. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pineapple under the sea Posts: 4,910 Thanks: 18 Thanked 404 Times in 301 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	i want to see links to where you got this whole aluminum 5s idea anyway.. __________________ Science fact: If you took all the veins from your body and laid them end to end, you would die.

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SW21T 400HP 3rd gen?? Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Washington St Posts: 1,853 Thanks: 143 Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts iTrader Rating: (18/100% )	I don't know I read this before I bought my MR2..also my friend told me, because he wanted one and he did his 'Research" before he got his silvia..Let me look it up Edit: ok I found it..diff. b/t the 5sfe and 3sgte - 6G Celicas Forums I know its a celica's site but since the celicas also carry the 5s I figured it also ment the MR2 Last edited by SW21T; 01-08-2009 at 09:39 PM..

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01-07-2009, 05:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
Sang Turtle Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: FL Posts: 4,096 Thanks: 18 Thanked 267 Times in 246 Posts iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	I very much agree.

01-07-2009, 05:36 PM	#22 (permalink)
MR-3vz Finally on the STAND Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashua, NH Posts: 113 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I was pretty tempted to do another 5sgte but then the v6 bug bit me. Now im knees deep in that, plan on dropping the motor in sometime next week. -J

01-07-2009, 11:57 PM	#23 (permalink)
SW21T 400HP 3rd gen?? Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Washington St Posts: 1,853 Thanks: 143 Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts iTrader Rating: (18/100% )	I heard the 5s is crappy and can't handle turbo and will blow very easily due to it being an aluminum block..Is this true..Also in the long run what would be better to fix up..Like getting up to 500hp at least

01-08-2009, 03:36 PM	#26 (permalink)
wagonis Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tampa Bay area, FL Posts: 1,447 Thanks: 60 Thanked 35 Times in 35 Posts iTrader Rating: (17/100% )	I read about using the GTE cams in the 5SFE setup, but there is a small amount of modification to be done.

01-08-2009, 03:56 PM	#27 (permalink)
Redstar My other cars are jealous Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 439 Thanks: 21 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts iTrader Rating: (12/100% )	^ I'm going to guess thats a bad idea. At the very least the cam gear setup on the 3S is very different than the 5S. Still, interesting idea. I'm searching now, but do you have a link to the thread?

01-08-2009, 04:30 PM	#28 (permalink)
wagonis Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tampa Bay area, FL Posts: 1,447 Thanks: 60 Thanked 35 Times in 35 Posts iTrader Rating: (17/100% )	^ I can't find it right now, I'll do a search when I get out of work.

01-08-2009, 04:43 PM	#29 (permalink)
Redstar My other cars are jealous Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 439 Thanks: 21 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts iTrader Rating: (12/100% )	I'm not having any luck finding it either. Please post the link when you can, and I'll do the same if I do find it.

01-09-2009, 10:37 AM	#34 (permalink)
MR-3vz Finally on the STAND Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashua, NH Posts: 113 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Wow Sang... A bit snappy are'nt we... lol... Breath in, Breath out... But Yellow MR2, im pretty sure you could have researched that a little better. That information is available on plenty of places online and a simple google search would've answered that question. -J

01-09-2009, 11:07 PM	#36 (permalink)
SW21T 400HP 3rd gen?? Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Washington St Posts: 1,853 Thanks: 143 Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts iTrader Rating: (18/100% )	I didnt have an MR2 at that time so I wasnt really trying to find out..that was when i first saw an MR2..Originally i was going to get a 94 turbo RX-7

02-05-2009, 11:31 AM	#38 (permalink)
wagonis Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tampa Bay area, FL Posts: 1,447 Thanks: 60 Thanked 35 Times in 35 Posts iTrader Rating: (17/100% )	Neither have I...maybe I was thinking about something else. Wow, I need to lay off the pipe.

05-13-2009, 10:55 PM	#39 (permalink)
SW21T 400HP 3rd gen?? Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Washington St Posts: 1,853 Thanks: 143 Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts iTrader Rating: (18/100% )	now that you all have informed me of the 5sgte, im really considering it, but if i build it, its going to be my way with better rods, pistons, cams, and all the goodies but im going to do this seperately like get another 5s block and go from there that way i can keep my 5sfte running.. To do this what crankshaft do you use? I kept reading that you use the 3s and have it machined to the 5s block. Is that true...and while reading this i saw that i irrated Sang, Sorry about that, i know now what it is, been doing a lot of research

05-13-2009, 11:44 PM	#40 (permalink)
Hsien-Ko MR2 So far... she runs Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 114 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	I would use the 5s block. As far as Im concerned the 5sfe is probably the strongest and most reliable engine to build upon.