Clutch disk differences: N/A - turbo

hemlock82 · 10-13-2009, 09:39 PM

Any difference in the clutch disk that came on the mkii turbos vs. mkii n/a cars? i think the turbo disk is part no. 31250-20140-84. Did both use the S54?

MRH · 10-13-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hemlock82

Any difference in the clutch disk that came on the mkii turbos vs. mkii n/a cars? i think the turbo disk is part no. 31250-20140-84. Did both use the S54?

To my understanding the N/A 5S-FE used the S54 tranny.

the turbo used another. :/ leme find out in a sec.[EDIT:] yeah, the tubo standard is the E153 transmission.

-H

immorality · 10-21-2009, 07:26 PM

The disc is different in Diameter and Spline tooth count. They are NOT interchangeable although you can order custom clutches through many manufacturers.

CJMR2T · 10-22-2009, 12:54 PM

As stated above, they are different in both diameter and drive spline.

Turbos use a 9-1/4" diameter disc with a 1-1/8" diameter 21 spline hub
N/A's use a 8-7/8" diameter disc with a 7/8" diameter 20 spline hub

Medusa · 10-22-2009, 01:47 PM

So if I were to swap a 3S-GE or GTE into my N/A MR2, I'd need a 3S flywheel and pressure plate, but a 5S clutch disk?

Sh0ty · 10-22-2009, 03:57 PM

If you keep the S54, then yes.

immorality · 10-22-2009, 05:13 PM

Get a disc with a spline count to match the transmission and a diameter to match the flywheel.

Medusa · 10-22-2009, 11:08 PM

Okay that's what I thought. I am looking into a 3rd gen 3S-GE swap.

CJMR2T · 10-30-2009, 05:36 PM

Yeah as stated before, use the disc that matchs the flywheel and have the drive hub swapped. I know for a FACT that a S54 drive hub will fit a E153 disc and vis-versa. I built a custom dual disc setup when I did my 1uz V8 swap in my supra using a pair of 5s-fe 8.875" disc's but with 3s-gte hubs to fit the trans...

Any decent clutch and driveline shop should be able to do it for you with no problem....

Is it known that the 3s-ge uses the same 9 1/4 disc as the 3s-gte?

Toyota typically only used the 9 1/4" and larger disc's on heavy cars with larger motors and turbo 4cyl... every N/A 4cyl. toyota I've come across has had a 8 7/8" disc or smaller... If this holds true to the 3s-ge, then you'll be able to get away with a stock 5s disc.

Oteck · 10-30-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Medusa

So if I were to swap a 3S-GE or GTE into my N/A MR2, I'd need a 3S flywheel and pressure plate, but a 5S clutch disk?

3sge uses the s54 n/a tranny

Medusa · 10-31-2009, 02:55 AM

So the 3S-GTE and 3S-GE use different flywheels? Interesting.

10-13-2009, 09:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
hemlock82 Cage Fighter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 155 Thanks: 13 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	Clutch disk differences: N/A - turbo Any difference in the clutch disk that came on the mkii turbos vs. mkii n/a cars? i think the turbo disk is part no. 31250-20140-84. Did both use the S54?

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10-21-2009, 07:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
immorality MR2 Owner once again Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Coquitlam/Blaine Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	The disc is different in Diameter and Spline tooth count. They are NOT interchangeable although you can order custom clutches through many manufacturers.

10-22-2009, 12:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
CJMR2T Fabricator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 3,692 Thanks: 3 Thanked 357 Times in 338 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	As stated above, they are different in both diameter and drive spline. Turbos use a 9-1/4" diameter disc with a 1-1/8" diameter 21 spline hub N/A's use a 8-7/8" diameter disc with a 7/8" diameter 20 spline hub

10-22-2009, 01:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Medusa HAY GUISE! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 752 Thanks: 9 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	So if I were to swap a 3S-GE or GTE into my N/A MR2, I'd need a 3S flywheel and pressure plate, but a 5S clutch disk?

10-22-2009, 03:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sh0ty Armchair Racer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Novi, MI Posts: 1,273 Thanks: 22 Thanked 57 Times in 54 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	If you keep the S54, then yes.

10-22-2009, 05:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
immorality MR2 Owner once again Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Coquitlam/Blaine Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Get a disc with a spline count to match the transmission and a diameter to match the flywheel.

10-22-2009, 11:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
Medusa HAY GUISE! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 752 Thanks: 9 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Okay that's what I thought. I am looking into a 3rd gen 3S-GE swap.

10-30-2009, 05:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
CJMR2T Fabricator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 3,692 Thanks: 3 Thanked 357 Times in 338 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	Yeah as stated before, use the disc that matchs the flywheel and have the drive hub swapped. I know for a FACT that a S54 drive hub will fit a E153 disc and vis-versa. I built a custom dual disc setup when I did my 1uz V8 swap in my supra using a pair of 5s-fe 8.875" disc's but with 3s-gte hubs to fit the trans... Any decent clutch and driveline shop should be able to do it for you with no problem.... Is it known that the 3s-ge uses the same 9 1/4 disc as the 3s-gte? Toyota typically only used the 9 1/4" and larger disc's on heavy cars with larger motors and turbo 4cyl... every N/A 4cyl. toyota I've come across has had a 8 7/8" disc or smaller... If this holds true to the 3s-ge, then you'll be able to get away with a stock 5s disc.

10-31-2009, 02:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
Medusa HAY GUISE! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 752 Thanks: 9 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	So the 3S-GTE and 3S-GE use different flywheels? Interesting.