spun out of control

mr2_guy · 10-04-2008, 11:19 PM

On my way home from the store, my car spun out of control, when I made a turn, I was lucky I didn't hit any one, my car went on top of a center divider there are no damage, thanks god.

Today was the fist day we had a good amount of rain in Cal, maybe my tires are not meant for wet roads? but then again I'm not to sure.

BTW this is my firs time driving the mr2 in the rain.

Everett · 10-04-2008, 11:44 PM

Wow, glad you didn't hit anything. But I've had a couple sets of tires on my MR2. I have Nitto's on now that are meant for mud/snow for the upcoming winter and they are very slick in the rain, and on the dry road for that matter. Now before them I had a set of Dunlop Sport tires and they almost never broke traction. So tires may have a lot to do with it.

Davis · 10-04-2008, 11:46 PM

Yeah tires make a difference, good thing there isn't damage. Where are you in Ca?

Pontificus666 · 10-05-2008, 12:19 AM

Yeah, one of the first times I drove my MR2 in the rain, I fishtailed for a bit. Scared the crap out me. Good to hear that neither you nor the 2 took any damage.

driftin07 · 10-05-2008, 02:11 AM

Tires play a huge role in slideage I had one close call on dry ground but it was at 100mph racing a grand prix I couldn't let him win I accidently tapped the brakes cuz he was coming into my lane sliding of the median marker and all back and forth this all happened like a month agoand the tire marks are still there I proved my driving skills that night no damage . Get glad to hear your safe dude!!

mr2_guy · 10-05-2008, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Davis

Yeah tires make a difference, good thing there isn't damage. Where are you in Ca?

I'm in San Jose, I'm going to order a new set of tires, for now I can afford the two rears.

eckoman_pdx · 10-05-2008, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Everett

Wow, glad you didn't hit anything. But I've had a couple sets of tires on my MR2. I have Nitto's on now that are meant for mud/snow for the upcoming winter and they are very slick in the rain, and on the dry road for that matter. Now before them I had a set of Dunlop Sport tires and they almost never broke traction. So tires may have a lot to do with it.

Not to thread jack, but out of curiosity, which type of Nitto tires are you running?

*end of thread jacking*

Ben · 10-05-2008, 01:59 PM

It would be a good idea to find a huge open parking lot and drive around it when it rains so you can get the feel for it. I need to do that because I moved to a place that snows, and I have never driven in the snow before.......

Everett · 10-05-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by eckoman_pdx

Not to thread jack, but out of curiosity, which type of Nitto tires are you running?

Nitto Neo-Gen's.

kbrew8991 · 10-05-2008, 04:17 PM

I'd recommend finding a legal place to get a better feel for the car (like an autocross)

eckoman_pdx · 10-05-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Everett

Nitto Neo-Gen's.

Hmm, so you don't like those tires? I had heard good things about them, so I was going to look into them.

Everett · 10-06-2008, 12:19 AM

Well I love them for the winter. I heard they are good for lowered cars, as in wear on each side of the tire, but thats not why I bought them. As for grip on dry road I really don't like'em. I've had much better grip with other tires. In the snow they are a beast.

eckoman_pdx · 10-06-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Everett

Well I love them for the winter. I heard they are good for lowered cars, as in wear on each side of the tire, but thats not why I bought them. As for grip on dry road I really don't like'em. I've had much better grip with other tires. In the snow they are a beast.

It rains a crap-load here in the winter, and I've heard decent things about them in the rain, and the price is great on them. Any thoughts on these in the rain?

Everett · 10-06-2008, 09:21 AM

I guess they are ok in the rain if your going in a straight line, they do move water pretty well. I've never had any hydroplaning and have went through some pretty huge puddles of sitting water. But if you bust a turn at good speed or hit the gas they'll break loose, that's with any tire I guess. The only gripe I have is when I'm powering around turns, I'm used to a lot of grip I had with my old tires but that's not something you'd do in the rain anyway.

mr2_guy · 10-06-2008, 12:18 PM

Quick questions do you guys think is ok to us this tire size 205/55/15 on my mr2 in the rear?, when I brought my car that the sizes they came with in the front an back.

3sgtepower · 10-06-2008, 01:13 PM

thats a little narrow for my tastes, you should use staggered wheels, on stock 14's I use 185's in front and 245's in back, but Im on 17x8's in the rear so maybe I can fit more tire back there.

I would find out what the most amount of tread you can fit on the back tires, and go with that, 205 sounds kinda narrow to me.

eckoman_pdx · 10-06-2008, 07:40 PM

The smallest I'd want to run is 205 in the front and 225 in the rear.

kbrew8991 · 10-06-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mr2_guy

Quick questions do you guys think is ok to us this tire size 205/55/15 on my mr2 in the rear?, when I brought my car that the sizes they came with in the front an back.

same size all around = fail

need 10-20mm wider tire out back

Gairloch · 10-06-2008, 09:27 PM

Just so you know, if you lose control of the car under any circumstances you cannot blame the equipment. You have to adapt your driving style to the conditions; weather, tire wear and quality, road surface condition and angles. You, as the driver, are 100% responsible for what happens with your vehicle. Losing control of the car means you're overdriving it.

That being said, I can tell you that the roads in SoCal SUCK for shedding water. They are definitely not built for inclement conditions which means you have to be extremely careful when it's raining.

What kind of tires do you have now and how much is left on them?

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Originally Posted by kbrew8991

I'd recommend finding a legal place to get a better feel for the car (like an autocross)

Not only is it legal but you can actually get some instruction from an experienced driver. Autox's are a fantastic way to learn how to drive well.

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Originally Posted by eckoman_pdx

The smallest I'd want to run is 205 in the front and 225 in the rear.

You want a 20-30mm stagger regardless of which size you end up with. I use 20mm stagger on mine and am extremely pleased with my balance.

60mm is WAY too much and will result in horrid understeer. With an NA you don't need anything more than a 235 in back.

10-04-2008, 11:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
mr2_guy No Skills Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 49 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	spun out of control On my way home from the store, my car spun out of control, when I made a turn, I was lucky I didn't hit any one, my car went on top of a center divider there are no damage, thanks god. Today was the fist day we had a good amount of rain in Cal, maybe my tires are not meant for wet roads? but then again I'm not to sure. BTW this is my firs time driving the mr2 in the rain.

10-04-2008, 11:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Everett Curve hunter! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Decatur,IL/Solomons,MD Posts: 1,168 Thanks: 35 Thanked 47 Times in 44 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	Wow, glad you didn't hit anything. But I've had a couple sets of tires on my MR2. I have Nitto's on now that are meant for mud/snow for the upcoming winter and they are very slick in the rain, and on the dry road for that matter. Now before them I had a set of Dunlop Sport tires and they almost never broke traction. So tires may have a lot to do with it.

10-04-2008, 11:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Davis Radical Dreamer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Long Beach, California Posts: 1,768 Thanks: 78 Thanked 71 Times in 66 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	Yeah tires make a difference, good thing there isn't damage. Where are you in Ca?

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Pontificus666 No Skills Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Yeah, one of the first times I drove my MR2 in the rain, I fishtailed for a bit. Scared the crap out me. Good to hear that neither you nor the 2 took any damage.

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driftin07 MR24life Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: south carolina Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Tires play a huge role in slideage I had one close call on dry ground but it was at 100mph racing a grand prix I couldn't let him win I accidently tapped the brakes cuz he was coming into my lane sliding of the median marker and all back and forth this all happened like a month agoand the tire marks are still there I proved my driving skills that night no damage . Get glad to hear your safe dude!!

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Ben Propulsion Restored Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oceanside, CA / Reno, NV Posts: 3,280 Thanks: 18 Thanked 235 Times in 222 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	It would be a good idea to find a huge open parking lot and drive around it when it rains so you can get the feel for it. I need to do that because I moved to a place that snows, and I have never driven in the snow before.......

10-05-2008, 04:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
kbrew8991 gimme some turns Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,098 Thanks: 39 Thanked 52 Times in 45 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I'd recommend finding a legal place to get a better feel for the car (like an autocross)

10-06-2008, 12:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
Everett Curve hunter! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Decatur,IL/Solomons,MD Posts: 1,168 Thanks: 35 Thanked 47 Times in 44 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	Well I love them for the winter. I heard they are good for lowered cars, as in wear on each side of the tire, but thats not why I bought them. As for grip on dry road I really don't like'em. I've had much better grip with other tires. In the snow they are a beast.

10-06-2008, 09:21 AM	#14 (permalink)
Everett Curve hunter! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Decatur,IL/Solomons,MD Posts: 1,168 Thanks: 35 Thanked 47 Times in 44 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	I guess they are ok in the rain if your going in a straight line, they do move water pretty well. I've never had any hydroplaning and have went through some pretty huge puddles of sitting water. But if you bust a turn at good speed or hit the gas they'll break loose, that's with any tire I guess. The only gripe I have is when I'm powering around turns, I'm used to a lot of grip I had with my old tires but that's not something you'd do in the rain anyway.

10-06-2008, 12:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
mr2_guy No Skills Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 49 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Quick questions do you guys think is ok to us this tire size 205/55/15 on my mr2 in the rear?, when I brought my car that the sizes they came with in the front an back.

10-06-2008, 01:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
3sgtepower Cage Fighter Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 6 Thanked 32 Times in 29 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	thats a little narrow for my tastes, you should use staggered wheels, on stock 14's I use 185's in front and 245's in back, but Im on 17x8's in the rear so maybe I can fit more tire back there. I would find out what the most amount of tread you can fit on the back tires, and go with that, 205 sounds kinda narrow to me.

10-06-2008, 07:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
eckoman_pdx Custom Car Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,014 Thanks: 28 Thanked 55 Times in 46 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	The smallest I'd want to run is 205 in the front and 225 in the rear.