PN: 94 NA Brake pads & rotors

Ncturnal · 07-10-2006, 09:21 AM

Brake pads
04465-12560 - Front
04466-17030 - Rear

Brake rotors
43512-17050 - Front
42431-17040 - Rear

mr2slow4you · 07-10-2006, 10:28 AM

Are the 94 na brakes the same as the 93+ turbo brakes?

Matt94MR2 · 07-10-2006, 10:48 AM

91-95 NA's all use the same brake components.

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Originally Posted by mr2slow4you

Are the 94 na brakes the same as the 93+ turbo brakes?

ween191 · 07-10-2006, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt94MR2

91-95 NA's all use the same brake components.

I thought things were changed in 93?

Tyler H · 07-10-2006, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt94MR2

91-95 NA's all use the same brake components.

x2

mr2slow4you · 07-10-2006, 11:39 AM

Gotcha... does anyone have the part numbers for the 93+ brakes, and are the jdm brakes any bigger?

Matt94MR2 · 07-10-2006, 06:04 PM

Only the Turbo brakes were upgraded in '93. If you want to verify this go to partznet and enter the part#'s that Ncturnal posted above and it will come back 91-94 NA ('95 NA is listed seperately but they are in fact the same).

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Originally Posted by ween191

I thought things were changed in 93?

JDM brakes are the same as the equivalent USDM model/year. My brake setup that I'm using is off a '95 Gen3 Turbo and is the same as the 93+ USDM Turbo brakes. I don't have the part #'s off hand but when ordering just keep in mind that 91-95 NA < 91-92 Turbo < 93+ Turbo.

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Originally Posted by mr2slow4you

Gotcha... does anyone have the part numbers for the 93+ brakes, and are the jdm brakes any bigger?

mr2slow4you · 07-10-2006, 06:08 PM

Thanks!, Do you all like your oem pads? I already planned on going oem for the rotors.

Luni · 07-10-2006, 06:14 PM

I have all the parts on the 93 brakes. I dont have the pads right now, but heres the calipers and brackets.

Calipers:
front right 47730-17140-84
front left 47750-17140-84
rear right 47730-17130-84
rear left 47750-17130-84

Mounting Brackets:
front right 47721-17050
front left 47722-17020
rear right 47707-17040
rear left 47708-17040

Matt94MR2 · 07-10-2006, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2slow4you

Thanks!, Do you all like your oem pads? I already planned on going oem for the rotors.

I'm running Porterfield R4S pads with OEM rotors and I've been very happy with this setup. In all likelihood the OEM pads probably would have been fine for my purposes though.

mr2slow4you · 07-10-2006, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luni

I have all the parts on the 93 brakes. I dont have the pads right now, but heres the calipers and brackets.

Calipers:
front right 47730-17140-84
front left 47750-17140-84
rear right 47730-17130-84
rear left 47750-17130-84

Mounting Brackets:
front right 47721-17050
front left 47722-17020
rear right 47707-17040
rear left 47708-17040

If you are upgrading na brakes to these will you not also have to have the knuckles, I put the caliper bracket next to an na knuckle and the bolts would not line up. Maybe I am missing something though.

Luni · 07-14-2006, 07:56 PM

Oh.. maybe on an NA to turbo brake upgrade maybe you will need the knuckles.

V6'er · 07-14-2006, 08:10 PM

While you folks are upgrading brakes, let me point out that if you upgrade your N/A car to Turbo brakes (only the fronts change), you MUST change the Proportioning Valve.

If you don't change to the correct valve, the F/R bias is way off - the fronts brake too hard.

mr2slow4you · 07-14-2006, 09:43 PM

Could you advise me as to where the proportioning valve is, and how to change it. I tried looking in the bgb, but all I could find was there it said that if the pressure in the front and rear system is wrong, then to check the valve.

V6'er · 07-14-2006, 09:46 PM

Frunk, driver's side. Just follow the brake lines. It's a chunk of iron with a bunch of hardlines.

If you have ABS, it is NOT the same valve as without ABS. And it's NOT the same valve as a '93+ either.

mr2slow4you · 07-14-2006, 10:42 PM

Thanks, I will have to make sure to add that to my order with the new pads and rotors.

Ncturnal · 07-15-2006, 02:07 AM

The best brake upgrade you can do is tires. Next would be nice brake pads (like Carbotech) and better brake fluid. I have Carbotech pads on my NA, with stock rotors and Motul RB600 brake fluid, and it stops the car much faster than my turbo with stock brakes, pads, and rotors. I really don't see the need to upgrade, especially if you are not on the track. I tracked that NA and the brakes were fine.

mr2slow4you · 07-15-2006, 02:33 AM

Well, Right now I have the 93 turbo brakes on the rear from my motor swap. Maybe, since I haven't had problems after I changed the pads I will just keep it like it is. But I was getting some pedal vibrations so I assume my rotors are bad, and my pads need replacing.

I noticed when I was doing some spirited driving in the western nc mountain roads I would experience fading.

Maybe I will try your pad and fluid combo, do you know of a good place to order both?

Luni · 07-15-2006, 07:58 PM

While youre at it, you should upgrade your lines too.

SS lines do ALOT for pedal feel and braking delivery. They are only like 110-120 bux for the whole set also.

PETC · 07-15-2006, 08:55 PM

Yeah, I totally agree. The NA brakes are fine unless you're racing on the track for extended times. Upgrading anything but the fluid and the pads is usually a waste of time and money.

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07-10-2006, 10:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
mr2slow4you ME out of training :) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clemmons, NC Posts: 2,336 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Are the 94 na brakes the same as the 93+ turbo brakes?

07-10-2006, 11:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
mr2slow4you ME out of training :) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clemmons, NC Posts: 2,336 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Gotcha... does anyone have the part numbers for the 93+ brakes, and are the jdm brakes any bigger?

07-10-2006, 06:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
mr2slow4you ME out of training :) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clemmons, NC Posts: 2,336 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Thanks!, Do you all like your oem pads? I already planned on going oem for the rotors.

07-10-2006, 06:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
Luni Cage Fighter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 3,213 Thanks: 10 Thanked 130 Times in 110 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (8/100% )	I have all the parts on the 93 brakes. I dont have the pads right now, but heres the calipers and brackets. Calipers: front right 47730-17140-84 front left 47750-17140-84 rear right 47730-17130-84 rear left 47750-17130-84 Mounting Brackets: front right 47721-17050 front left 47722-17020 rear right 47707-17040 rear left 47708-17040

07-14-2006, 07:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
Luni Cage Fighter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 3,213 Thanks: 10 Thanked 130 Times in 110 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (8/100% )	Oh.. maybe on an NA to turbo brake upgrade maybe you will need the knuckles.

07-14-2006, 08:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
V6'er All Torque, All the Time Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 899 Thanks: 0 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	While you folks are upgrading brakes, let me point out that if you upgrade your N/A car to Turbo brakes (only the fronts change), you MUST change the Proportioning Valve. If you don't change to the correct valve, the F/R bias is way off - the fronts brake too hard.

07-14-2006, 09:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
mr2slow4you ME out of training :) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clemmons, NC Posts: 2,336 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Could you advise me as to where the proportioning valve is, and how to change it. I tried looking in the bgb, but all I could find was there it said that if the pressure in the front and rear system is wrong, then to check the valve.

07-14-2006, 09:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
V6'er All Torque, All the Time Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 899 Thanks: 0 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Frunk, driver's side. Just follow the brake lines. It's a chunk of iron with a bunch of hardlines. If you have ABS, it is NOT the same valve as without ABS. And it's NOT the same valve as a '93+ either.

07-14-2006, 10:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
mr2slow4you ME out of training :) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clemmons, NC Posts: 2,336 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Thanks, I will have to make sure to add that to my order with the new pads and rotors.

07-15-2006, 02:07 AM	#17 (permalink)
Ncturnal NoAgendaShow.com Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,446 Thanks: 94 Thanked 158 Times in 125 Posts Blog Entries: 7 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (37/100% )	The best brake upgrade you can do is tires. Next would be nice brake pads (like Carbotech) and better brake fluid. I have Carbotech pads on my NA, with stock rotors and Motul RB600 brake fluid, and it stops the car much faster than my turbo with stock brakes, pads, and rotors. I really don't see the need to upgrade, especially if you are not on the track. I tracked that NA and the brakes were fine.

07-15-2006, 02:33 AM	#18 (permalink)
mr2slow4you ME out of training :) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clemmons, NC Posts: 2,336 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Well, Right now I have the 93 turbo brakes on the rear from my motor swap. Maybe, since I haven't had problems after I changed the pads I will just keep it like it is. But I was getting some pedal vibrations so I assume my rotors are bad, and my pads need replacing. I noticed when I was doing some spirited driving in the western nc mountain roads I would experience fading. Maybe I will try your pad and fluid combo, do you know of a good place to order both?

07-15-2006, 07:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
Luni Cage Fighter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 3,213 Thanks: 10 Thanked 130 Times in 110 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (8/100% )	While youre at it, you should upgrade your lines too. SS lines do ALOT for pedal feel and braking delivery. They are only like 110-120 bux for the whole set also.

07-15-2006, 08:55 PM	#20 (permalink)
PETC √(176400) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 43 Thanked 65 Times in 53 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	Yeah, I totally agree. The NA brakes are fine unless you're racing on the track for extended times. Upgrading anything but the fluid and the pads is usually a waste of time and money.