V6 peeps...Lets talk Exhausts

[susedan]

Originally Posted by conor

Now... How is forced induction cheaper?

Headers:
- ~$800 from Brad Bedell, the Solara guys or eBay crap for lots less if you can find them
- Custom y-pipe


Forced Induction:
- TRD S/C Kit ~$3000 (if you can find one.. and even if you use this, you still benefit from headers!)
- Turbo
- Intercooler
- Hot/Cold piping with silicone couplers/clamps
- Oil lines for turbo
- Exhaust manifold-->turbo pipe construction
- Downpipe
- Fuel injectors
- Uprated fuel pump
- Custom intake manifold (optional? eh?)
- Engine management system
- Dyno tuning for above EMS
- Custom y-pipe
- Intake pipe for turbo

I'd like to see you do all of that for less than $3k using new parts... We all know that people can take shortcuts and cobble stuff together with junkyard parts

While I don't really want to keep this thread off topic.. as it is supposed to be about exhausts.... I gotta reply.

My full setup including turbo, cooling, wiring, fuel injectors lines and fitttings is currently at $1800 with all new "quality" parts. By quality I mean everything is name brand name except my piping and XS Power IC. Mind you many of these parts would have been necessary for the swap alone. I bet it would have easily been under $1500 even with good parts. $3k for a supercharger is dumb imo. Small gain/dollar. With the same amount of money you could be rollin.

Reliability? Who knows... I haven't seen many issues, but then again everyone is still in the club and nobody is really pushing any boost yet to test the limits of these motors.

[hfmt93]

just out of pure curiosity how do people convert square ports to round headers? Do they make some kind of special pipes that slopes from square to round? Just curious.

[K-ESD]

Originally Posted by TomsMR2

we dont all share the same goals.

X2

[DarkMousy]

If you REALLY want straight cut gears...


http://www.fensport.co.uk
5 Speed Straight cut dog engagement gear kit.

Consisting of - Input shaft, output shaft, all gears straight cut dog engagemnet, oil pump gear and straight cut crown wheel and pinion with the following ratios

1st Gear 3.583

2nd Gear 2.045

3rd Gear 1.333

4th Gear 0.972

5th Gear 0.731

Reverse 3.545

3.933 Final drive (25mph per 1000rpm, ie 200mph at 8000rpm)

The above is designed to work with indent type selectors and we can build into your casing, if suitable for £325+ bearings.

And it costs £5000.00.

[Jason.MZW20]

^ Interesting. Those are E351 gear ratios minus the final drive (which is 3.944).

[TRD_MR2_DRGN]

Originally Posted by DarkMousy

If you REALLY want straight cut gears...


http://www.fensport.co.uk
5 Speed Straight cut dog engagement gear kit.

Consisting of - Input shaft, output shaft, all gears straight cut dog engagemnet, oil pump gear and straight cut crown wheel and pinion with the following ratios

1st Gear 3.583

2nd Gear 2.045

3rd Gear 1.333

4th Gear 0.972

5th Gear 0.731

Reverse 3.545

3.933 Final drive (25mph per 1000rpm, ie 200mph at 8000rpm)

The above is designed to work with indent type selectors and we can build into your casing, if suitable for £325+ bearings.

And it costs £5000.00.

Thats not US dollars, but sounds hella expensive.

[DarkMousy]

figure about $10k shipped give or take.

[TRD_MR2_DRGN]

That's enough for another 2. Don't see me getting that anytime soon.

[D-spec]

I think this thread got a bit OT. Weren't we talking about exhausts. Has anyone used a berk 3inch or TKO 3 inch and gotten a good sound from a v6? I know the 3s sounds great with it, the 6 might sound even better! Any thoughts???

[Gimpster]

SO here it is, my final exhaust (for now). Originally I was going to use what was left of a turbo Apexi GT cat back. I decided this was going to be OBNOXIOUS, and reused the NA muffler.

I posted this already, but here is the B-pipe. Yes, I know the merge sucks. No, I'm not going to do anything about it right now.



And here is my muffler setup. It's a NA muffler that we modified to 3" inlet. Maybe it's tough to see from the pictures, but basically we took a 180 then cut it in half and pitched it down to a 90 that goes into the B-pipe via V-bolt clamp (for easy/quick/gasketless dropping of muffler/b-pipe). The flex on the b-pipe transitions to 3".

Added an o2 bung since that picture to the straight pipe behind the x-member for my wideband.

I'll take some video soon, but it sounds REALLY GOOD IMO. It's quiet in cruise and idle, but you can tell it's a V6 clearly. When you WOT it, sounds very exotic IMO. I couldn't be happier considering I have like 80 bucks invested into that muffler setup. All the piping is stainless 3".

My car isn't lowered, and my driveway is pitched like ... 90 degrees up it seems and I didn't scrape exhaust. So it appears ground clearance isn't an issue right now.

[jetkit]

I'm using the NA muffler with 2.5" downpipe and the gorila welds:

[greve84]

I'm halfway tempted to order another Berk exhaust (already got one on the 3sgte), and fabricate some 3" piping from the turbo to the mufflers, just a matter of saving up the funds. I'm very curious to see how it would sound though, anybody else pondering about doing this idea???

[Weasy2k]

Wow thats some huge pipe going into the turbo muffler!

For the swaps going on here the stock mufflers will all be used....for now...i still am looking for nice alternatives and MAY try a flowmaster/magnaflow sure they will sound like a muscle car...but at 8k rpm....i doubt it

[Gimpster]

Hrmph, is that a turbo muffler?

I honestly don't know how to tell, I thought the guy I got it from told me it was NA ... but I forget. My car came exhaust-less so I have no basis for comparison. At one time he had both (had a clip) but sold one of them, and this was left over.

I kinda dig it to be honest, and I don't think I'll go away from it. It's not flashy, but man it sounds pretty decent and I can STAND TO BE IN THE CAR for an extended period of time. It's much quieter than my S10 w/350

[Jason.MZW20]

Originally Posted by Gimpster

SO here it is, my final exhaust (for now). Originally I was going to use what was left of a turbo Apexi GT cat back. I decided this was going to be OBNOXIOUS, and reused the NA muffler.

Any particular reason you didn't route the pipe above the crossmember? Seems like you're gonna have ground clearance issues going over bumps like Camrys.

[Weasy2k]

from the side it does...but a rear pic would tell for sure...it very could be a n/a one i didnt read the part that it was n/a hah :P

[Gimpster]

Originally Posted by Jason.MZW20

Any particular reason you didn't route the pipe above the crossmember? Seems like you're gonna have ground clearance issues going over bumps like Camrys.

Well, more than anything I just didn't have the bends available/on-hand to make an over the crossmember method. Only had that 180 and 90 laying around. My car isn't lowered thankfully, and thus far no clearance issues My driveway is VERY difficult for ground clearance challenged cars too, and no scapes yet though!

I'll take a picture from the rear this weekend. I had to quit driving the car today due to a rear wheel bearing going bad all the sudden

[Gimpster]

Weazy here are some better pictures of the muffler out of the car, NA or Turbo?

[Weasy2k]

N/A for sho!

[V6'er]

Oh, you're making this too hard.

If it had a cat on the input pipe it's from a Turbo. If it had an input pipe almost as long as the muffler, it's an N/A muffler.