20V MK1 Engine Swap 20Valve Silver Top parts

SteevoBLK87 · 03-09-2008, 08:00 AM

How could get my hands on an oil pan and oil filter for a 20v ST

SilverFire · 03-10-2008, 02:53 AM

I can't think of any reason a 16v one wouldn't work. The block and crank would have the same clearance dimensions. The crank is perhaps balanced better and a little lighter, but that's all I can think of.

As for the filter, do a quick search here and you'll see it's the same as the other 7-rib 16v.

mr220v · 03-10-2008, 11:20 AM

The 16v pan doesn't fit. Don't know about the 4afe and 7afe pans though.

SilverFire · 03-14-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mr220v

The 16v pan doesn't fit. Don't know about the 4afe and 7afe pans though.

That surprises me, but I don't really have anything to compare them with... Thanks for the correction.

billyboy · 03-22-2008, 10:09 PM

You could try eBay. There are a few guys on there parting the 20V's out. I've never personally seen an oil pan, but if you find someone selling a lot of 20V parts, they very well may have one. And the oil filter is the same as a 7-rib, like silverfire said.

Bill

F0Bman · 04-09-2008, 11:26 PM

Use the 16V oil pan and oil filter

mr220v · 04-10-2008, 09:15 AM

^The pan doesn't fit. We've already been over this.

F0Bman · 04-11-2008, 02:41 AM

You're right. My apologies.

20valve_mr2 · 08-22-2008, 02:46 PM

anybody put a 20valve in a sw20... can it be done...

mr220v · 08-22-2008, 03:32 PM

It can and has been done. The norwood mk2 20v actually holds the land speed record for 1.5L FI motors. Just over 200mph.

A 20v into a mk2 is not a practical swap. It may be a better head design than the 5sfe, but it also has 25% less displacement.

The best NA 4cyl motors for the mk2 are the 3sge's. 165hp for a gen2 3sge to 200hp for the beams. Cost wise, at this point you can buy a 180hp gen3 3sge as cheap or cheaper than you can buy a 20v. If you don't mind a more difficult swap (potentially a lot more), you can go with a v6.

Mista 2 · 08-23-2008, 09:05 AM

Doesnt the same car hold the under 1L record too? thats what i read at least. they just destroked it or something but they were running like 45psi of boost.

mr220v · 08-25-2008, 10:07 AM

They ran it for the record in a number of classes.

03-09-2008, 08:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
SteevoBLK87 Some Skills Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 66 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	20Valve Silver Top parts How could get my hands on an oil pan and oil filter for a 20v ST

04-10-2008, 09:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,529 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	^The pan doesn't fit. We've already been over this. Last edited by mr220v; 04-10-2008 at 09:23 AM..

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03-10-2008, 02:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
SilverFire Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 299 Thanks: 6 Thanked 15 Times in 13 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I can't think of any reason a 16v one wouldn't work. The block and crank would have the same clearance dimensions. The crank is perhaps balanced better and a little lighter, but that's all I can think of. As for the filter, do a quick search here and you'll see it's the same as the other 7-rib 16v.

03-10-2008, 11:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,529 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	The 16v pan doesn't fit. Don't know about the 4afe and 7afe pans though.

03-22-2008, 10:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
billyboy Old guy Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: York, PA Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	You could try eBay. There are a few guys on there parting the 20V's out. I've never personally seen an oil pan, but if you find someone selling a lot of 20V parts, they very well may have one. And the oil filter is the same as a 7-rib, like silverfire said. Bill

04-09-2008, 11:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
F0Bman Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 252 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Use the 16V oil pan and oil filter

04-11-2008, 02:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
F0Bman Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 252 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	You're right. My apologies.

08-22-2008, 02:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
20valve_mr2 No Skills Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	anybody put a 20valve in a sw20... can it be done...

08-22-2008, 03:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,529 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	It can and has been done. The norwood mk2 20v actually holds the land speed record for 1.5L FI motors. Just over 200mph. A 20v into a mk2 is not a practical swap. It may be a better head design than the 5sfe, but it also has 25% less displacement. The best NA 4cyl motors for the mk2 are the 3sge's. 165hp for a gen2 3sge to 200hp for the beams. Cost wise, at this point you can buy a 180hp gen3 3sge as cheap or cheaper than you can buy a 20v. If you don't mind a more difficult swap (potentially a lot more), you can go with a v6.

08-23-2008, 09:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
Mista 2 Cage Fighter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 463 Thanks: 16 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Doesnt the same car hold the under 1L record too? thats what i read at least. they just destroked it or something but they were running like 45psi of boost.

08-25-2008, 10:07 AM	#12 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,529 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	They ran it for the record in a number of classes.