20V MK1 Engine Swap 20v swap info - Page 2

tjmr2 · 08-16-2009, 12:48 AM

Black Top Original Throttle Position Sensor Part # 89452-12090 not available in the US, at least I couldn't find it.

Found a compatible one at Auto Zone: Duralast Part# TPS481
This is supposedly the same as Toyota Part# 89452-22080

The Resistance values of the Duralast part were slightly higher than my 14+ year old stock TPS, but all the terminals checked as correct function. On the car for two weeks working as it should.

Vyshino · 10-02-2009, 08:55 AM

Can you just plug in a BT ecu to a ST harness? and itll work?

whore of babylon · 03-09-2010, 07:53 PM

Can you plug a black top harness into a silver top donk??

MR III · 08-04-2010, 04:21 PM

Just swap a other 20V in my aw11 and it was not intentional.
By luck got my hands on a other Silvertop engine but this one was in so unbelievable good condition I had to swap it for the old one and gone pull that one apart and totally re new everything and bring that one back to crisp condition and in the mean wile enjoy this perfect new engine that simply works and runs fabulous the moment I jacket it in there compared to the old one.

But I remember a whole lot of people are blocking there minds out to correctly connect the engine and especial the tubing at the inlet side.

Well,.I taught off you guys and made a picture of my solution and it works fine for two years now and it was hard to get it right so hopefully it will save you a lot of time.

Mostly 2e gen Silvertops are whit a soda line bracket screwed to the side off the inlet housing.
Get that off and leave the lines that are connected to the engine so that this picture will make sense.
I left out No 1 to keep my Rembrandt drawing a little clear to read :P

All 4 No 3 lines ,.
You stuff them all,.a nice screw and some good quality silicone and a line clamp,.wha evà you like just as long there are closed.

No 2 line
That one goose to the inlet housing an you have to connect it somewhere before the inlet right behind the airflow meter.
Do not put a little filter on it,.you need that connecting ore you lose the ability to perfect fine tune the engine.
Ore,.you use a blacktop configuration in youre electronics and lose the airflow meter.
Then a little air filter will do fine,.otherwise it gone make a irritating noise.

No 6
That has a connection on the bottom side off the inlet airflow box.
Put it there !
BUT ! make really sure that it connects perfect and that there are now tears ore cuts in the line ore the engine will never run proper idle.

No 4
Fuel line in

No 5
Fuel line out (retour)

No 7

That is for the pressure for the brake system and you can not see it from here but it is the only connection on the other side so you can not miss.

That is all there is to it,. have fun

89aw11 · 01-24-2011, 04:05 PM

k so active army doesnt give me alot of time back with my car but ive got 89 aw11 that ive had a few years now and was wanting to swap engines what is the benefits of the 20v

mr220v · 01-24-2011, 05:18 PM

150-165hp vs 114hp with more torque.

That and a newer motor.

Desekrator · 03-15-2011, 11:12 PM

Okay, so this might come off as a stupid question to all of you, but in order to learn, I have to ask.

I have a 4age 20v silvertop swap done to my aw11 taken out of a 95 corolla (from previous owner). In order to get some parts for it, I need to get a few questions cleared out about this swap.

1. Is it still an mr2 tranny that's bolted up to it?
2. If it can be otherwise, how can I tell whether it's the stock tranny or not?

mr220v · 03-18-2011, 11:15 AM

The silvertop uses the same basic c52 transmission as the 88-89 mr2. The main difference is the shifting parts and the center casing.

Kerry Phillips · 03-20-2011, 10:51 AM

Alright, number 1.

I have a question for you.

In this pic, the throttle mechanism appears to have connections for TWO throttle cables, one for the accelerator (gas) pedal and maybe a second for the cruise control.

Does this silvertop have such a mechanism?

If so, do you have any more or a source for more?

Kerry
kwphillips1@yahoo.com

pdiddie · 04-08-2011, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR III

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...-/Foto0178.jpg

Just swap a other 20V in my aw11 and it was not intentional.
By luck got my hands on a other Silvertop engine but this one was in so unbelievable good condition I had to swap it for the old one and gone pull that one apart and totally re new everything and bring that one back to crisp condition and in the mean wile enjoy this perfect new engine that simply works and runs fabulous the moment I jacket it in there compared to the old one.

But I remember a whole lot of people are blocking there minds out to correctly connect the engine and especial the tubing at the inlet side.

Well,.I taught off you guys and made a picture of my solution and it works fine for two years now and it was hard to get it right so hopefully it will save you a lot of time.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...-/Foto0179.jpg

Mostly 2e gen Silvertops are whit a soda line bracket screwed to the side off the inlet housing.
Get that off and leave the lines that are connected to the engine so that this picture will make sense.
I left out No 1 to keep my Rembrandt drawing a little clear to read :P

All 4 No 3 lines ,.
You stuff them all,.a nice screw and some good quality silicone and a line clamp,.wha evà you like just as long there are closed.

No 2 line
That one goose to the inlet housing an you have to connect it somewhere before the inlet right behind the airflow meter.
Do not put a little filter on it,.you need that connecting ore you lose the ability to perfect fine tune the engine.
Ore,.you use a blacktop configuration in youre electronics and lose the airflow meter.
Then a little air filter will do fine,.otherwise it gone make a irritating noise.

No 6
That has a connection on the bottom side off the inlet airflow box.
Put it there !
BUT ! make really sure that it connects perfect and that there are now tears ore cuts in the line ore the engine will never run proper idle.

No 4
Fuel line in

No 5
Fuel line out (retour)

No 7

That is for the pressure for the brake system and you can not see it from here but it is the only connection on the other side so you can not miss.

That is all there is to it,. have fun

Question.. " Hose's " Is this set_up all the same on a 20V BlackTop ?

Joseph W · 05-08-2011, 11:20 PM

Ok, so I don't know much about Toyota motors (except the JZ series) but I have an 85 and a 87. What's a really good swap?

ericmies90 · 10-28-2011, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph W

Ok, so I don't know much about Toyota motors (except the JZ series) but I have an 85 and a 87. What's a really good swap?

easiest and cheapest would be the 20v the most potential would be a 3sgte preferabbly 3rd gen

08-04-2010, 04:21 PM	#24 (permalink)
MR III No Skills Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 39 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	The way to connect and disconnect a silvertop 2e gen tubes on the inlet Just swap a other 20V in my aw11 and it was not intentional. By luck got my hands on a other Silvertop engine but this one was in so unbelievable good condition I had to swap it for the old one and gone pull that one apart and totally re new everything and bring that one back to crisp condition and in the mean wile enjoy this perfect new engine that simply works and runs fabulous the moment I jacket it in there compared to the old one. But I remember a whole lot of people are blocking there minds out to correctly connect the engine and especial the tubing at the inlet side. Well,.I taught off you guys and made a picture of my solution and it works fine for two years now and it was hard to get it right so hopefully it will save you a lot of time. Mostly 2e gen Silvertops are whit a soda line bracket screwed to the side off the inlet housing. Get that off and leave the lines that are connected to the engine so that this picture will make sense. I left out No 1 to keep my Rembrandt drawing a little clear to read :P All 4 No 3 lines ,. You stuff them all,.a nice screw and some good quality silicone and a line clamp,.wha evà you like just as long there are closed. No 2 line That one goose to the inlet housing an you have to connect it somewhere before the inlet right behind the airflow meter. Do not put a little filter on it,.you need that connecting ore you lose the ability to perfect fine tune the engine. Ore,.you use a blacktop configuration in youre electronics and lose the airflow meter. Then a little air filter will do fine,.otherwise it gone make a irritating noise. No 6 That has a connection on the bottom side off the inlet airflow box. Put it there ! BUT ! make really sure that it connects perfect and that there are now tears ore cuts in the line ore the engine will never run proper idle. No 4 Fuel line in No 5 Fuel line out (retour) No 7 That is for the pressure for the brake system and you can not see it from here but it is the only connection on the other side so you can not miss. That is all there is to it,. have fun

01-24-2011, 04:05 PM	#25 (permalink)
89aw11 No Skills Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	new k so active army doesnt give me alot of time back with my car but ive got 89 aw11 that ive had a few years now and was wanting to swap engines what is the benefits of the 20v

03-20-2011, 10:51 AM	#29 (permalink)
Kerry Phillips Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chattanooga, TN area Posts: 299 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Silvertop swap/ question/Who is #1 Alright, number 1. I have a question for you. In this pic, the throttle mechanism appears to have connections for TWO throttle cables, one for the accelerator (gas) pedal and maybe a second for the cruise control. Does this silvertop have such a mechanism? If so, do you have any more or a source for more? Kerry kwphillips1@yahoo.com

05-08-2011, 11:20 PM	#31 (permalink)
Joseph W No Skills Join Date: May 2011 Location: Pensacola ,FL Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I have no idea. Ok, so I don't know much about Toyota motors (except the JZ series) but I have an 85 and a 87. What's a really good swap?

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08-16-2009, 12:48 AM	#21 (permalink)
tjmr2 Cage Fighter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 409 Thanks: 0 Thanked 62 Times in 59 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Black Top Original Throttle Position Sensor Part # 89452-12090 not available in the US, at least I couldn't find it. Found a compatible one at Auto Zone: Duralast Part# TPS481 This is supposedly the same as Toyota Part# 89452-22080 The Resistance values of the Duralast part were slightly higher than my 14+ year old stock TPS, but all the terminals checked as correct function. On the car for two weeks working as it should.

10-02-2009, 08:55 AM	#22 (permalink)
Vyshino No Skills Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Can you just plug in a BT ecu to a ST harness? and itll work?

03-09-2010, 07:53 PM	#23 (permalink)
whore of babylon Part time mechanic. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tasmania Posts: 151 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Can you plug a black top harness into a silver top donk??

01-24-2011, 05:18 PM	#26 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,527 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	150-165hp vs 114hp with more torque. That and a newer motor.

03-15-2011, 11:12 PM	#27 (permalink)
Desekrator No Skills Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 25 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Okay, so this might come off as a stupid question to all of you, but in order to learn, I have to ask. I have a 4age 20v silvertop swap done to my aw11 taken out of a 95 corolla (from previous owner). In order to get some parts for it, I need to get a few questions cleared out about this swap. 1. Is it still an mr2 tranny that's bolted up to it? 2. If it can be otherwise, how can I tell whether it's the stock tranny or not?

03-18-2011, 11:15 AM	#28 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,527 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	The silvertop uses the same basic c52 transmission as the 88-89 mr2. The main difference is the shifting parts and the center casing.