3SGTE/Turbo: Leaf Blowers

[wagonis]

How the hell does thing thread come back from the dead and then gets more hits?

[DCKilla]

This is how the MR2 Board rolls.

[FreeFall]

you could use a gas leaf blower in the trunk and just duct tape the throttle on full and run tubing through the fire wall in the trunk. flawless 10 whp right there.

[Capt.Evergreen]

really, you could have radiator or intercooler in trunk with leafblower for air flow/cooling. ehh, at the most. amp for the blower.

[scottohno]

Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

really, you could have radiator or intercooler in trunk with leafblower for air flow/cooling. ehh, at the most. amp for the blower.

could you explain this statement please? starting in the bold please.

so tell me how many amps does a gas leafblower require?

[David]

Originally Posted by sickof5sfe

get a honda and blow to your hearts desire

I lol'd

[Capt.Evergreen]

dont know, never really messed with this stuffs... just ideas... do u mind steping back, off my nuts?

[phzoinkMKII]

The hell with leaf blowers it's all about stickers. Duh

[scottohno]

Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

dont know, never really messed with this stuffs... just ideas... do u mind steping back, off my nuts?

no i want to know what you mean by an amp for a leaf blower. im not "on ur nuts" im just trying to understand what youre saying. there seems to be a language barrier here there is a thing you agree to when you join the forum that says you will try to type in a language we can understand. not like "Y0 N1GG/\ \/\/4T UP

[FreeFall]

N\_/tt1N mUcH y0

[scottohno]

yeah... its too hard to read that shyt.

[San Anto AW11]

Leaf blowers move air rated as CFM, but boost is what you need to make power. Plug the end of a leaf blower and see if there's a PSI increase, you wont.

[asj]

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[lildipper]

leaf blowers simply cant flow the volume to be efficient or effective, if they did dont you think you would see more set ups like this making real power?

[canadam]

Originally Posted by asj

... caught up in the romance, hot wiring a crude electric motor to the battery, pointing the turbine in the general direction of the intake manifold, only on an MR2 forum could car culture expect to find, alas -- the leaf blower discussion -- still raging, better part of two decades.

Unless someone out there has something meaningful for which to expand upon the burning issue of the impending Black and Decker Supercharger group purchase, I formally propose a motion to strike down upon thee, with furious vengeance, anything remotely indicative of the leaf blower discussion?

If only it were that easy...


Acknowledged,
~ Sammy, '88 Supercharged

:bowdown:

No doubt.

[88SeattleSC]

I just wanted to say I think a lot of you guys are being asshats about the subject and just blindly saying this blows because you have not seen it.
If your car is NA you COULD use an electric squirrel fan because they are the strongest kinds of electric fans so yes they can indeed create an added PSI. In reality the MK1 with the extra trunk space and air box in the back would be perfectly set up for this. Obviously as seen in the civic video it does prove results are possible. Would I do this? No because my mr2 is supercharged.

If you can get a 4amp circuit going this would be the puppy to use considering it puts out about 2-3 times more than a gas operated backpack leaf blower in terms of CFM.
Blower
Not mention that one is a four speed so you can easily hook up a 3 selector switch for "OFF,ON,FULL-ON"

I still agree that the improvement would be minimal considering what turbochargers are capable of these days.
my two cents

[arber0214]

use only with TURBO CHARGED CARS

Install 35 of them facing the back of the car, take your engine and drive train out. This is only to make room for the leaf blowers, has nothing to do with saving weight. Wire an old airplane mechanism as steering, i must say tie. Should use water resistant rope, for weather condition and saving weight at the same time. Now you have the first jet- leaf blower car. If you want to make it even better and faster take the brakes off, but remember safety first. You must have a 150 pound anchor in the car at all times for braking.
I almost forgot you will need a parachute for reverse, just make sure nothing is parked within 250 yards away from the rear of the car.

[scottohno]

You Tube

is this the effect you want?

[fosley]

Electric superchargers aren't new, and I've seen one in a viper that added something like 200 hp. His was a prototype, and was setup on a ton of batteries, so a traditional supercharger would have actually worked better after the weight savings, especially considering the money going into it, but the concept is sound.

Assume that putting 7 psi (a typical turbo setup for an engine that's designed to be NA) gives you an extra 50 hp. In this case, a 1 psi electric supercharger would likely give you somewhere in the neighborhood of 7-8 hp - certainly not a negligible amount, especially given the low cost of the solution. The problem with the "1 psi" bilge pumps people sell isn't that 1 psi won't give you power. The problem is that typically the pumps don't have remotely enough flow to produce 1 psi at 6000 RPM.

Upgrade to a leaf blower with far greater flow rates, and, as the video linked to above shows, you can get realistically useful flow rates. What I'm not sure about is what kind of electrical system you'd need to effectively run one. The 1500 CFM air conditioning blower linked to above, for example, would likely require substantial upgrades to run efficiently, given that it would be sucking nearly 40 amps at peak volume. Still, that's far better than this 400 CFM leaf blower that would require 115 amps at peak volume.

According to this site, which is the first Google hit I found under "turbo CFM", a TD06 from 2003 was pushing around 650 CFM peak. So if you did something like the Mk2 PS alternator upgrade (100 amps vs 70 amps - not sure what's available on the Mk1, but there's gotta be something - this thread implies you might get away with just upgrading to the Mk2 alternator), dropped the 1500 CFM blower down to 20 amps peak, then used a regulator to apply boost based on RPM, throttle position, or some combination thereof, I'd guess you could probably get reasonable gains out of it. Bear in mind you'd have to find ways to mount it's 18" x 10" x 16" frame, but it only weighs 35 lbs shipped, so I don't think it would be a terrible idea if you could fit it in there. The leaf blower would be smaller and lighter, but given how inefficient it is (3 times the current for a third of the air flow), I doubt it would be a useful. Checking out the same site from the first blower, I found this small AC blower that pushes 146 CFM in a 6" x 6" x 6" package weighing < 5 lbs, running at only 7.5 amps or so peak, and it only costs $80. Something like that would probably be your best bet for a "small" electric supercharger that has enough gumption to be worth bothering with.

It's probably easier just to get a stock supercharger and throw it in (not sure on the Mk1 motors, but on the Mk2 it isn't hard to just bolt the stock turbo onto an NA motor), but if it's done up nicely, I don't see that using a leaf blower or similar is any more "ghetto" than using garden trim as an air splitter. Just because some "professional" didn't make it using CAD and CNC, and it's not originally intended to go into a car, doesn't mean it's inherently bad. I would worry about the durability of something that's meant to be statically mounted, and I'm sure there would be obstacles, but I'd rather see back-yard ingenuity than "oh look, I threw $5K at my problem and it went away" any day, because that means the next time I throw $5K at my own problems, the solution might be that much better.

Besides, sometimes doing dumb shit just to see if you can is worth it just for the fun you get out of it. Just make sure to bring a video camera, so when it blows up spectacularly we can all YouTube it later.

[arber0214]

I thought i was clear enough, but no not at all.
My idea was to make an environment friendly car, and not that loud.
I can believe people were just standing in front of that car.