20V MK1 Engine Swap finding a 20v

Kevin mr2 1985 · 06-18-2008, 04:28 AM

im a 16 year old and i really dont have the largest income in the world and im looking for a reliable place in seattle or up to canada area who imports and is very inexpensive. i read on anouther post that a company was seling a st for like $450 in toronto. so if this is true then in mabey vancover bc there is and importer i could hit up. remeber 16 = income of $8.05 an hour

Raptor13x · 06-18-2008, 04:42 AM

Is your current engine blown?

If your car runs, be smart, and save up your money. Don't blow it on cars until you have so much money that it doesn't matter.

Kevin mr2 1985 · 06-18-2008, 05:01 AM

well im sorry that i love cars and im willing to put money into them especially first years... and no my engine is fine but i want a better one and i would just like to save money on it im selling anouther car in liek 2 weeks hopefully getting enough money for this swapa nd the suspension fixes.

Raptor13x · 06-18-2008, 02:29 PM

*sigh* They never listen...

muffinman · 06-18-2008, 02:45 PM

enjoy the car the way it is and mean while save your money so that when you do decide to do the swap you'll be prepared (financially) for the unexpected.

Teado · 06-19-2008, 07:37 PM

Engine swaps are like women:

Cost a lot
lots of work
often get more or less than you expected
kick in the pants for the quarter mile
You always think the next will be better

SteveAW11 · 06-20-2008, 03:28 AM

You may find a ST for $450, but unless you know wiring like the back of your hand, and do not replace anything on the motor (which will eventually bite you in the ass) youll need at least $1000-1200 for the swap.

So far and counting, Ive spent over $2200 on my ST swap, But Ive replaced a TON of stuff and even bought upgraded goodies

And to boot I still have about another $400 to go before its all said and done and in my car running, I could throw it in there right now and be good, but I want it to be right, so I do it my way.

Im gonna agree with raptor13x...and add some...

Your 16 all your posts so far to date Ive replied to have led me to believe you were young, I was right. Learn how to drive a car first, then mod it. Im 27 you got a long way to go to maturity.

mr220v · 06-20-2008, 09:22 AM

The best thing to do is wait for something major to happen. If you're pushing 250k+ then something will go wrong sooner or later. Wait till you have a BHG, or at least need a clutch. This will also give you time to go start saving.

When you do go to get a motor, pick the cleanest one you can find. Not the cleanest externally, but the cleanest one internally. Take a look under the oil cap, and take the valve cover off if the place will let you. Getting the cleanest motor possible will minimize the amount of rebuilding/refreshing you need to do. Timing belt and clutch are two high priority replacement items. Seals would be next priority. There are a whole bunch of things you could replace, but should not be necessary if you get a decently clean motor.

I've had guys successfully swap silvertops for just over $1000, including the wiring. It's a nice upgrade, is cheaper than getting a 16v rebuilt, and only somewhat more than just getting a decent used 16v.

Timon · 06-20-2008, 10:28 AM

I'd agree. If everything on your current vehicle works fine, then leave it. Save the expensive mods for later. In the mean time do some easier things (or not), such as fixing any rust, interior flaws, or exterior flaws. Fix everything you can on the car now, so when you eventually swap it everything will be in place.

06-18-2008, 04:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
Kevin mr2 1985 it started! yes! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 435 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	finding a 20v im a 16 year old and i really dont have the largest income in the world and im looking for a reliable place in seattle or up to canada area who imports and is very inexpensive. i read on anouther post that a company was seling a st for like $450 in toronto. so if this is true then in mabey vancover bc there is and importer i could hit up. remeber 16 = income of $8.05 an hour

06-19-2008, 07:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Teado MK1 = My Daily Addiction Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 272 Thanks: 11 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Engine swaps are like women: Cost a lot lots of work often get more or less than you expected kick in the pants for the quarter mile You always think the next will be better

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06-18-2008, 04:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
Raptor13x Legendary Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Farmington Hills, MI Posts: 3,997 Thanks: 7 Thanked 44 Times in 37 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	Is your current engine blown? If your car runs, be smart, and save up your money. Don't blow it on cars until you have so much money that it doesn't matter.

06-18-2008, 05:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
Kevin mr2 1985 it started! yes! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 435 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	well im sorry that i love cars and im willing to put money into them especially first years... and no my engine is fine but i want a better one and i would just like to save money on it im selling anouther car in liek 2 weeks hopefully getting enough money for this swapa nd the suspension fixes.

06-18-2008, 02:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Raptor13x Legendary Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Farmington Hills, MI Posts: 3,997 Thanks: 7 Thanked 44 Times in 37 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	sigh They never listen...

06-18-2008, 02:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
muffinman U-P-G-R-A-Y-E-D-D Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 5,877 Thanks: 53 Thanked 282 Times in 271 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	enjoy the car the way it is and mean while save your money so that when you do decide to do the swap you'll be prepared (financially) for the unexpected.

06-20-2008, 03:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
SteveAW11 Cage Fighter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 131 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	You may find a ST for $450, but unless you know wiring like the back of your hand, and do not replace anything on the motor (which will eventually bite you in the ass) youll need at least $1000-1200 for the swap. So far and counting, Ive spent over $2200 on my ST swap, But Ive replaced a TON of stuff and even bought upgraded goodies And to boot I still have about another $400 to go before its all said and done and in my car running, I could throw it in there right now and be good, but I want it to be right, so I do it my way. Im gonna agree with raptor13x...and add some... Your 16 all your posts so far to date Ive replied to have led me to believe you were young, I was right. Learn how to drive a car first, then mod it. Im 27 you got a long way to go to maturity.

06-20-2008, 09:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,527 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	The best thing to do is wait for something major to happen. If you're pushing 250k+ then something will go wrong sooner or later. Wait till you have a BHG, or at least need a clutch. This will also give you time to go start saving. When you do go to get a motor, pick the cleanest one you can find. Not the cleanest externally, but the cleanest one internally. Take a look under the oil cap, and take the valve cover off if the place will let you. Getting the cleanest motor possible will minimize the amount of rebuilding/refreshing you need to do. Timing belt and clutch are two high priority replacement items. Seals would be next priority. There are a whole bunch of things you could replace, but should not be necessary if you get a decently clean motor. I've had guys successfully swap silvertops for just over $1000, including the wiring. It's a nice upgrade, is cheaper than getting a 16v rebuilt, and only somewhat more than just getting a decent used 16v.

06-20-2008, 10:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
Timon MR2 MKI AW11 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 669 Thanks: 13 Thanked 42 Times in 37 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I'd agree. If everything on your current vehicle works fine, then leave it. Save the expensive mods for later. In the mean time do some easier things (or not), such as fixing any rust, interior flaws, or exterior flaws. Fix everything you can on the car now, so when you eventually swap it everything will be in place.