ford into my 86

jasenklems · 06-10-2009, 10:29 PM

I have 2 1986 mr2s one is an auto and one is a 5 speed with a rebuilt title. I was thinking about parting that one out but have changed my mind about that. I want to put the motor from my tuarus sho into the 5 speed. It is a 3.2l dohc v6 that produces 220hp and 215pft with a 5 speed manual that is the mtx4. Now the engine is fairly large for a v6 but they look cool and sound good. they make nice power and they are really a yamaha engine not a ford one. does anyone have any advice for a project like this?

HeartbreakMR2 · 06-10-2009, 11:11 PM

I have seen a couple threads with this swap. From what I have read it is not an easy swap. But if you are able to find the threads; it can be done. Wish you the greatest luck while performing this swap.

Jackstand Queen · 06-11-2009, 05:01 PM

I started to write some really sarcastic remark mostly because its a Ford engine. Then I got to thinking its a pretty good engine, and if it could be squeezed in and work . . . the results would silence any naysayers.

However there's one major consideration to take into account. How much more would the Ford engine and tranny weigh over a 4agze and tranny? If it weighed a lot more, the handling would suffer . . . a whole lot.

toyotaspeed90 · 06-11-2009, 06:16 PM

it's been done.....

TomsMR2 · 06-11-2009, 07:02 PM

its a very large, very heavy engine. you'd be better off with damn near anything. GM 3800 SC?

the furd motor is yamaha designed anyway.

jasenklems · 06-11-2009, 09:35 PM

thanks for the info but can anyone send me a link or a web site that contains info on this swap. i have searched for info and can find anything as well as this site.

canadam · 06-11-2009, 10:15 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Taurus SHO engine wasn't completely designed by Yamaha, just the heads. The block itself is just a Ford 3.0.

There is a MKI with an SHO swap, and there's some info somewhere on the board here, should be found with a search.

It's a pretty impressive engine, and it looks unbelievable cleaned up in an engine bay, but it is heavy, and requires total custom fabrication. The stock Mazda gear box is also really weak.

jasenklems · 06-25-2009, 06:35 PM

the engine is based off of the ford 3.0l but that engine is a push rod and so yamaha had to redesign it for the dohc. It is a heavy engine but no more than the northstar engine. also I have been running searches here and can not find any info what so ever. again any info that i can get will be greatly appriciated. I have thought this trough to the ugly end and know that it will not be cheap in the least. but it will be nice to have the nastiest frist gen mr2 in the state of ohio. thanks again all but i do need some info or help to find the info............

mtone132000 · 06-25-2009, 07:52 PM

wow, what about my svtfocus motor? that would be sick to put in my 85!!

b.18tuner5875 · 06-25-2009, 08:56 PM

a 4age will be a way better motor than that zetec crap

mtone132000 · 06-26-2009, 06:56 AM

lol you obviously know nothing about "that ztec crap"

mr2good · 06-26-2009, 08:31 AM

Y'all are fools ford makes some great motors. I would not go with the sho motor cause they are crap an like to blow. I would go with the ford 3.0 duratec. Makes lots of power na an the turbo kit for them they have running 9 psi on a stock motor makes over 300hp to the wheels. An another thing the focus svt motor is not a ztec design it a doch DURATEC design. Completily different motor

b.18tuner5875 · 06-26-2009, 09:33 AM

and the 4age or the 3sge has more potential than those motors, ask others on this forum

boycelaforest · 06-26-2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2good

Y'all are fools ford makes some great motors. I would not go with the sho motor cause they are crap an like to blow. I would go with the ford 3.0 duratec. Makes lots of power na an the turbo kit for them they have running 9 psi on a stock motor makes over 300hp to the wheels. An another thing the focus svt motor is not a ztec design it a doch DURATEC design. Completily different motor

Yes duratec 3.0! If you can find a manual transmission for it!
4age and 3sge do have more potential (to grenade at 300hp, especially the 4age).

Kerry Phillips · 06-26-2009, 06:11 PM

A good engine is good regardless who made it. My 98 Escort ZX2 has 100k+ and still runs great. 130 hp and about the same torque. I got as high as 37MPG/HWY. Isn't there an upgrade to Distributor less ignition----Using FORD parts, EDIS. Don't feel too bad, The DOHC 2.0L engine is mostly Mazda. At one time Ford, Kia, and Mazda were all using the same 2.0L 4-pot block!
I would prefer my ZX2 motor over the 4age.
Kerry

traintech86 · 06-26-2009, 06:49 PM

so i guess it depends on your def of what a great motor is... my car has been sitting for 2-3 years and has 200k miles on it. i changed the fluids, plugs and the rusted out intake and it seems to run outstanding. just sayin...

boycelaforest · 06-26-2009, 09:45 PM

Well I drove mine with no oil for 300k miles then dumped sand in the valve cover. After flushing it with acetone and water I refilled with oil and drove another 300k.

No seriously talking about high mileage, it is not the high revving 4 cylinders: It is the dodge cummins 12 and 24v (24v minus lift pump issues).
Low revving primal engines made from big chunks of heavy metal. Cant fit one in a mr2 though.

jasenklems · 06-27-2009, 05:05 PM

well all of this is no help to me thanks for the side talk I find it amussing that all of you think you are car people and do nothing but bash on ideas when someone asks for help you try to answer a question and or point them in the right direction not get side tracked on your ideas and offer no help but your oppion on a engine being good or not. I just wanted to find some info on a ford 3.0l sho swap into my 86 mr2. some things have been helpful i wont deny that but mostly not. since I can not find any info I will do it the old fashioned way toss money at it till it fits and then go out and smoke all who challenge. thanks for all the insperation to go ahead on this insane quest. By the way My wife wants the 3.4l v8 now.

te51levin · 06-27-2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasenklems

I just wanted to find some info on a ford 3.0l sho swap into my 86 mr2.

You are asking for help on something that none of us have done. Please understand that. You can take that approach if you like, but it may be an uphill battle and could result in a cruddy product with poor results if you're unable to learn how to do it yourself. And there is no need for bragging or challenging others simply because we don't have the information you're asking for, or don't agree that it's a match made in heaven.

Now, one suggestion, if I may: Consider a Camry V6 swap instead. You can use either the 3VZ-FE or 1MZ-FE. They are also cheap, abundant, powerful, and have been swapped into both AW11 and SW2# chassis; since it's been done numerous times, you'll have a hell of a lot less work ahead of you and will find a hell of a lot more help here on the board. Chances are excellent that you could learn everything you need to know on that swap by searching for a couple of days. It's an option...

b.18tuner5875 · 06-27-2009, 08:45 PM

sorry for the interruption earlier but the SHO motor is a great motor and there is a guy somewhere on here doing the swap you want, just try to search for it.

06-10-2009, 10:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
jasenklems Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mt. Healthy Ohio Posts: 139 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	ford into my 86 I have 2 1986 mr2s one is an auto and one is a 5 speed with a rebuilt title. I was thinking about parting that one out but have changed my mind about that. I want to put the motor from my tuarus sho into the 5 speed. It is a 3.2l dohc v6 that produces 220hp and 215pft with a 5 speed manual that is the mtx4. Now the engine is fairly large for a v6 but they look cool and sound good. they make nice power and they are really a yamaha engine not a ford one. does anyone have any advice for a project like this?

06-11-2009, 07:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
TomsMR2 Still not heraldo. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pineapple under the sea Posts: 4,910 Thanks: 18 Thanked 404 Times in 301 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	its a very large, very heavy engine. you'd be better off with damn near anything. GM 3800 SC? the furd motor is yamaha designed anyway. __________________ Science fact: If you took all the veins from your body and laid them end to end, you would die.

06-11-2009, 10:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
canadam MidshipExpress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Posts: 10,399 Thanks: 120 Thanked 142 Times in 121 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (34/100% )	Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Taurus SHO engine wasn't completely designed by Yamaha, just the heads. The block itself is just a Ford 3.0. There is a MKI with an SHO swap, and there's some info somewhere on the board here, should be found with a search. It's a pretty impressive engine, and it looks unbelievable cleaned up in an engine bay, but it is heavy, and requires total custom fabrication. The stock Mazda gear box is also really weak. __________________

06-26-2009, 06:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
Kerry Phillips Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chattanooga, TN area Posts: 299 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Ford Engine A good engine is good regardless who made it. My 98 Escort ZX2 has 100k+ and still runs great. 130 hp and about the same torque. I got as high as 37MPG/HWY. Isn't there an upgrade to Distributor less ignition----Using FORD parts, EDIS. Don't feel too bad, The DOHC 2.0L engine is mostly Mazda. At one time Ford, Kia, and Mazda were all using the same 2.0L 4-pot block! I would prefer my ZX2 motor over the 4age. Kerry

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06-10-2009, 11:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
HeartbreakMR2 Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Clarksville,TN Posts: 215 Thanks: 12 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I have seen a couple threads with this swap. From what I have read it is not an easy swap. But if you are able to find the threads; it can be done. Wish you the greatest luck while performing this swap.

06-11-2009, 05:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jackstand Queen Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 840 Thanks: 75 Thanked 64 Times in 60 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I started to write some really sarcastic remark mostly because its a Ford engine. Then I got to thinking its a pretty good engine, and if it could be squeezed in and work . . . the results would silence any naysayers. However there's one major consideration to take into account. How much more would the Ford engine and tranny weigh over a 4agze and tranny? If it weighed a lot more, the handling would suffer . . . a whole lot.

06-11-2009, 06:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
toyotaspeed90 No Skills Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 2,401 Thanks: 0 Thanked 148 Times in 143 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	it's been done.....

06-11-2009, 09:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
jasenklems Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mt. Healthy Ohio Posts: 139 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	thanks for the info but can anyone send me a link or a web site that contains info on this swap. i have searched for info and can find anything as well as this site.

06-25-2009, 06:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
jasenklems Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mt. Healthy Ohio Posts: 139 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	the engine is based off of the ford 3.0l but that engine is a push rod and so yamaha had to redesign it for the dohc. It is a heavy engine but no more than the northstar engine. also I have been running searches here and can not find any info what so ever. again any info that i can get will be greatly appriciated. I have thought this trough to the ugly end and know that it will not be cheap in the least. but it will be nice to have the nastiest frist gen mr2 in the state of ohio. thanks again all but i do need some info or help to find the info............

06-25-2009, 07:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
mtone132000 Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 130 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	wow, what about my svtfocus motor? that would be sick to put in my 85!!

06-25-2009, 08:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
b.18tuner5875 No Gracias Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 425 Thanks: 36 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	a 4age will be a way better motor than that zetec crap

06-26-2009, 06:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
mtone132000 Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 130 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	lol you obviously know nothing about "that ztec crap"

06-26-2009, 08:31 AM	#12 (permalink)
mr2good Some Skills Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Y'all are fools ford makes some great motors. I would not go with the sho motor cause they are crap an like to blow. I would go with the ford 3.0 duratec. Makes lots of power na an the turbo kit for them they have running 9 psi on a stock motor makes over 300hp to the wheels. An another thing the focus svt motor is not a ztec design it a doch DURATEC design. Completily different motor

06-26-2009, 09:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
b.18tuner5875 No Gracias Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 425 Thanks: 36 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	and the 4age or the 3sge has more potential than those motors, ask others on this forum

06-26-2009, 06:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
traintech86 Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Yokosuka, Kanagawa Japan Posts: 1,799 Thanks: 27 Thanked 47 Times in 43 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	so i guess it depends on your def of what a great motor is... my car has been sitting for 2-3 years and has 200k miles on it. i changed the fluids, plugs and the rusted out intake and it seems to run outstanding. just sayin...

06-26-2009, 09:45 PM	#17 (permalink)
boycelaforest 1992 Turbo 2 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 454 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Well I drove mine with no oil for 300k miles then dumped sand in the valve cover. After flushing it with acetone and water I refilled with oil and drove another 300k. No seriously talking about high mileage, it is not the high revving 4 cylinders: It is the dodge cummins 12 and 24v (24v minus lift pump issues). Low revving primal engines made from big chunks of heavy metal. Cant fit one in a mr2 though.

06-27-2009, 05:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
jasenklems Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mt. Healthy Ohio Posts: 139 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	well all of this is no help to me thanks for the side talk I find it amussing that all of you think you are car people and do nothing but bash on ideas when someone asks for help you try to answer a question and or point them in the right direction not get side tracked on your ideas and offer no help but your oppion on a engine being good or not. I just wanted to find some info on a ford 3.0l sho swap into my 86 mr2. some things have been helpful i wont deny that but mostly not. since I can not find any info I will do it the old fashioned way toss money at it till it fits and then go out and smoke all who challenge. thanks for all the insperation to go ahead on this insane quest. By the way My wife wants the 3.4l v8 now.

06-27-2009, 08:45 PM	#20 (permalink)
b.18tuner5875 No Gracias Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 425 Thanks: 36 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	sorry for the interruption earlier but the SHO motor is a great motor and there is a guy somewhere on here doing the swap you want, just try to search for it.