srt-4 swap in mr2?

srt guy · 06-17-2009, 10:36 AM

hey guys im wondering what you all think about an srt-4 engine swap in a 91-93 mr2. i know youll all most likely hate on the srt-4 and think its gay but ive owned an srt-4 for a couple of years and i love the car. i just think the mr2 is nicer and i like the fact that its rwd.

the srt engine is a strong platform with good power stock. the engine is a 2.4 liter engine (turbo) and has 230hp and 240tq to the wheels from factory and extremely easy to modify without extensive amounts of money. i can purchase a stage 3 mopar kit from dodge for a couple grand and ill have 320+ whp on a daily driven dodge approved kit with no glitches. although i plan for bigger numbers and bigger turbo so i get closer to 500-600whp.

can you guys chime in and let me know if this is possible and if its worth doing? i figure since ive known the srt for a few years now and i already have one and can get my hands on an mr2 for a realy good price why not try it?

can you guys chime in on this and keep flaming to a minimal?
thanks.

muffinman · 06-17-2009, 10:46 AM

The only thing "gay" about the srt-4 is that it's a neon , otherwise it's great. I think that set up would be nicer in the MK1 though.

Davis · 06-17-2009, 10:54 AM

Actually I like the srt-4, drove my friends and wow was that thing fun.

It's going to be alot of fabrication to make it work.

kbrew8991 · 06-17-2009, 10:57 AM

would probably be just as easy to build a Midlana with that engine
The MidLana Project

mr220v · 06-17-2009, 10:58 AM

Motor mounts and axles would be your main problems with lots of difficult smaller issues.

I think I'd have to say the same thing about this that I would about the proposed honda swaps that never seem to happen. You'll have an easier time just going with a Toyota motor and should be able to achieve similar results. At least the 320whp is certainly doable.

Too bad toyota never made a GE head for the AZ series motors.

srt guy · 06-17-2009, 10:58 AM

what would make it easier in an mk1? im petty new to the mr2 so i wouldnt know about it. im not too fond of the mk1 compared to the mk2 though thats the thing.

and yeah the srt-4 is actually really fun. i used to knock on those cars a few years ago until i actually researched and drove one. it is seriously an extremely fun car to drive. i just really dislike the fwd. traction on those cars is terrible. and torque steer.

srt guy · 06-17-2009, 11:03 AM

if i were to use a 3sgte motor which is the jdm turbo motor right? (sorry just new to this) will that motor be a good platform to achieve high numbers that wont cost an arm and a leg to rebuild?

with about 5-6 thousand dollars i can get the srt to about 450-500whp. is the 3sgte just as strong of a motor and just as capable? with the srt-4 engine and tranny im good for 450whp before i need to crack the motor open and start rebuilding it to handle more power. hows the 3sgte in comparison?

Denz · 06-18-2009, 06:47 AM

The 3SGTE is the turbo model for USDM and JDM for the MK2
Search MK1.5 and you will find quite a few people have done it.
They come anywhere from about 220hp-270ish hp from stock depending what year and if it was USDM or JDM

srt guy · 06-18-2009, 09:41 AM

Thanks^^^ that info helped alot. do you or anyone know where i can find alot of information on these engines and what it would cost to fully build one? if i go with this swap instead ill need to research it and also make sure this engine can be built to handle 600whp.
i dont wanna build a motor thats almost impossible to get to handle that kind of power.
right now i can have a stroker kit put on my srt-4 motor and have the entire engine fully built to handle up to 1400whp and total cost for that is in the 10k range.
i need to compare the two motors and see what my best bet would be, also taking into factor that ill need to get alot of custom work done to make a stroked srt motor fit and work well in an mr2 setup. the extra money in fab work almost isnt worth it.

mr2good · 06-18-2009, 09:52 AM

use the search feature

1stgen · 06-18-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by canadam

Not worthwhile, only because there are lots of other well documented swaps to complete.

Basically, if you're asking this question, you likely don't know enough already to do something this custom. Take a look around the board, if the stock engines don't suffice, there's very likely a swap that can fit your needs.

srt guy · 06-19-2009, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2good

use the search feature

waste of a post, if you dont have any useful information you shouldnt post at all, i didnt ask for info to be spoon fed to me just getting opinions and want to hear what others experienced advice on this situation...it would have taken you the same amount of time to post a link to something for me to look at than to say that.

anyway on a side note i can get a 3sgte engine, tranny ecu etc. for about 2k canadian and then i can have about 5 k to build on it right away and another few thousand to build it over the summer. so in reality id like to keep the build in the 10k range and see what i can do with that. ill use "the search button" some more and see what comes up as far as what itll take me to build this motor to spec.

muffinman · 06-19-2009, 10:36 AM

Quote:

It appears that 700rwhp is attainable and more than that is theoretically possible.

3S-GTE Power Primer

also check out
Hux Racing, Your Alabama Dyno and Performance Fabrication Facility

thejigalo · 06-19-2009, 10:50 AM

Hey Dr. Frankenstien, if you want an srt4 motor,,, leave it in a neon..... dont ruin a mr2 by piecing together a monstrosity.

boycelaforest · 06-19-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejigalo

Hey Dr. Frankenstien, if you want an srt4 motor,,, leave it in a neon..... dont ruin a mr2 by piecing together a monstrosity.

No! nothing wrong with swapping in different brand engines (as long as it is done right). You should see the audi v8 mk1 on here... if there was ever Frankenstein/hacking that would be the one. V8 mounted the wrong way is off the charts compared to swapping a 4 cylinder engine mounted the correct way in a 4 cylinder car.

bughghhhhghhghgh

mr29180 · 06-19-2009, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denz

The 3SGTE is the turbo model for USDM and JDM for the MK2
Search MK1.5 and you will find quite a few people have done it.
They come anywhere from about 220hp-270ish hp from stock depending what year and if it was USDM or JDM

fail LOL 3sgte is us and a Jdm motor!!! LOL

Srtguy here I think it's allot better if u get a
4th gen of a 3sgte but.... But. It doesnt came on a mr2 here in us!!!
They came from caldina.... Cars.. LOL or if u want get the 3rd gen engine!!! That would be a good flat form for u LOL remember 3rd gen and 4th gen engine is a Jdm engine so u need to search this..

David · 06-19-2009, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muffinman

3S-GTE Power Primer

also check out
Hux Racing, Your Alabama Dyno and Performance Fabrication Facility

I was just about to post the power primer. If it wasn't for "hacking" different engines into the MR2, the community as a whole would know a lot less. Think about all of the swaps people have done, or are doing. V6s from camrys, the aformentioned audi V8, Northstar V8s, Beams, etc, etc. The first person that did any of those swaps must have had a lot of opposition, but now many of them are commonly done, thanks to the people that ignored insulting comments. I say go for it. Just be prepared to spend a lot of money on fabrication. I would love to see that happen.

thejigalo · 06-19-2009, 11:39 AM

no sense of humor in here i guess.......theres nothing wrong with re-motoring if done correctly..... i personally would like to do the gen4 swap...

it just doesnt make much sence to me to go thru the hassle of fabbing damn near everything (mounts, exhaust, intake, wiring, coolant lines, axles, etc. etc.etc.) to put a dodge 4cyl turbo in a car that was meant to have a toyota 4cyl turbo.... heres an idea, how bout take that srt4, move it to the back seat of the neon, making it mid engine?

David · 06-19-2009, 11:43 AM

That would take waaaaay more fabbing to just get the rear some power.

chrisfromnh · 06-19-2009, 12:55 PM

Honestly im not a huge fan of srt-4's mostly because they are still a neon... :/ but... I see where your coming from with the 2.4 potential and how cheap they are to tune. The thing is, is that with the amount of money you would spend putting the srt-4 motor in, you could be tuning the hell out of an mr2 engine. If you want a cool swap put a v6 in it then yiu wont even need a turbo... But you could turbo the 6 and you wont even want your little neon anymore

06-17-2009, 10:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
srt guy No Skills Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	srt-4 swap in mr2? hey guys im wondering what you all think about an srt-4 engine swap in a 91-93 mr2. i know youll all most likely hate on the srt-4 and think its gay but ive owned an srt-4 for a couple of years and i love the car. i just think the mr2 is nicer and i like the fact that its rwd. the srt engine is a strong platform with good power stock. the engine is a 2.4 liter engine (turbo) and has 230hp and 240tq to the wheels from factory and extremely easy to modify without extensive amounts of money. i can purchase a stage 3 mopar kit from dodge for a couple grand and ill have 320+ whp on a daily driven dodge approved kit with no glitches. although i plan for bigger numbers and bigger turbo so i get closer to 500-600whp. can you guys chime in and let me know if this is possible and if its worth doing? i figure since ive known the srt for a few years now and i already have one and can get my hands on an mr2 for a realy good price why not try it? can you guys chime in on this and keep flaming to a minimal? thanks.

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Davis Radical Dreamer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Long Beach, California Posts: 4,536 Thanks: 85 Thanked 125 Times in 113 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Actually I like the srt-4, drove my friends and wow was that thing fun. It's going to be alot of fabrication to make it work.

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kbrew8991 gimme some turns Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,685 Thanks: 76 Thanked 82 Times in 70 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	would probably be just as easy to build a Midlana with that engine The MidLana Project

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mr220v Beams Owners Group Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,529 Thanks: 13 Thanked 176 Times in 147 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	Motor mounts and axles would be your main problems with lots of difficult smaller issues. I think I'd have to say the same thing about this that I would about the proposed honda swaps that never seem to happen. You'll have an easier time just going with a Toyota motor and should be able to achieve similar results. At least the 320whp is certainly doable. Too bad toyota never made a GE head for the AZ series motors.

06-17-2009, 10:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
srt guy No Skills Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	what would make it easier in an mk1? im petty new to the mr2 so i wouldnt know about it. im not too fond of the mk1 compared to the mk2 though thats the thing. and yeah the srt-4 is actually really fun. i used to knock on those cars a few years ago until i actually researched and drove one. it is seriously an extremely fun car to drive. i just really dislike the fwd. traction on those cars is terrible. and torque steer.

06-17-2009, 11:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
srt guy No Skills Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	if i were to use a 3sgte motor which is the jdm turbo motor right? (sorry just new to this) will that motor be a good platform to achieve high numbers that wont cost an arm and a leg to rebuild? with about 5-6 thousand dollars i can get the srt to about 450-500whp. is the 3sgte just as strong of a motor and just as capable? with the srt-4 engine and tranny im good for 450whp before i need to crack the motor open and start rebuilding it to handle more power. hows the 3sgte in comparison?

06-18-2009, 06:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
Denz Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hamilton, New Zealand Posts: 487 Thanks: 2 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	The 3SGTE is the turbo model for USDM and JDM for the MK2 Search MK1.5 and you will find quite a few people have done it. They come anywhere from about 220hp-270ish hp from stock depending what year and if it was USDM or JDM

06-18-2009, 09:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
srt guy No Skills Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Thanks^^^ that info helped alot. do you or anyone know where i can find alot of information on these engines and what it would cost to fully build one? if i go with this swap instead ill need to research it and also make sure this engine can be built to handle 600whp. i dont wanna build a motor thats almost impossible to get to handle that kind of power. right now i can have a stroker kit put on my srt-4 motor and have the entire engine fully built to handle up to 1400whp and total cost for that is in the 10k range. i need to compare the two motors and see what my best bet would be, also taking into factor that ill need to get alot of custom work done to make a stroked srt motor fit and work well in an mr2 setup. the extra money in fab work almost isnt worth it.

06-18-2009, 09:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
mr2good Some Skills Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	use the search feature

06-19-2009, 10:50 AM	#14 (permalink)
thejigalo <<<>>> Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Near Toledo Ohio Posts: 129 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Hey Dr. Frankenstien, if you want an srt4 motor,,, leave it in a neon..... dont ruin a mr2 by piecing together a monstrosity.

06-19-2009, 11:39 AM	#18 (permalink)
thejigalo <<<>>> Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Near Toledo Ohio Posts: 129 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	no sense of humor in here i guess.......theres nothing wrong with re-motoring if done correctly..... i personally would like to do the gen4 swap... it just doesnt make much sence to me to go thru the hassle of fabbing damn near everything (mounts, exhaust, intake, wiring, coolant lines, axles, etc. etc.etc.) to put a dodge 4cyl turbo in a car that was meant to have a toyota 4cyl turbo.... heres an idea, how bout take that srt4, move it to the back seat of the neon, making it mid engine?

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David Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 2,621 Thanks: 120 Thanked 55 Times in 54 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	That would take waaaaay more fabbing to just get the rear some power.

06-19-2009, 12:55 PM	#20 (permalink)
chrisfromnh drift Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Weare, NH Posts: 196 Thanks: 11 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Blog Entries: 2 iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Honestly im not a huge fan of srt-4's mostly because they are still a neon... :/ but... I see where your coming from with the 2.4 potential and how cheap they are to tune. The thing is, is that with the amount of money you would spend putting the srt-4 motor in, you could be tuning the hell out of an mr2 engine. If you want a cool swap put a v6 in it then yiu wont even need a turbo... But you could turbo the 6 and you wont even want your little neon anymore