Other Mk1 V8 / 6 speed - Page 8

IDon'tKnow · 11-24-2009, 09:22 AM

There are a few reasons to stay away from the J37. It's very expensive right now, the block casting is a little bit different so it won't bolt up to the old 6MT (and the new one is SH-AWD), and did I mention it is expensive?

I bought two J Series engines last week: a J32A2 (02 TL Type-S) and a J35A4 (04 Honda Odyssey) to frankenstein together. Having lurched Honda forums about this engine series almost constantly for about a week now, I'm confident that I can make 300+ whp without getting into aftermarket internals. The Odyssey rods and crank are going into the TL motor..... I've already got DC headers for it..... the factory TL-S pistons are forged and will make 11.8:1 compression with the Odyssey stroke.... there is a good bit of power to be had opening up the 3 piece intake manifold and increasing it's volume.... the throttle body bolt pattern is the same as a D-Serier (crazy?) so I can get a cheap 72mm TB upgrade... and I'm going to run Megasquirt. If that doesn't spell +300whp I'll need to get my hands on the newer (not newest mind you, they are not compatible) TL-S cams.

The main motivation for going with this motor is the LSD 6 Speed box ($600-$800 if your lucky) being available for the J series. Also, the plenum is above the engine instead of off to the side like Toyota V6's so I might not need to hack the bulkhead as much.

It's going to be a fun project and I think I am going to be very pleased with the eventual results. I'll have a build thread going sometime soon.

I hope to see the MR8 up and running soon. This is definitely pushing the envelope.

I don't know if the question has already been asked, but did you weight the motor & trans while they were out of the car?

Paul Woods · 11-24-2009, 01:27 PM

No we didn't get a chance but the engine is no heavier than a 3vz v6, mind you the trans is a little heavier so i would say it is going to be about 30kgs heavier than a v6 mk1.

Butters · 11-24-2009, 01:49 PM

im blown away... this is an amazing project.

Paul Woods · 11-24-2009, 01:52 PM

Thanks! Let's hope it works as well as we think it will

Paul Woods · 11-25-2009, 01:42 PM

Well today was a massive day.... ladies and gents i am proud to announce the MR8 is born!

We had problems finding a laptop crappy enough to have a serial port on it, in the end we dragged the office PC out and hooked that up to the VEMS, anyway i will let the video do the talking, the noise this thing makes is the most evil thing i have ever heard...

YouTube - Mk1 Mr2 V8 first fire up.wmv

IDon'tKnow · 11-25-2009, 02:11 PM

*Massive Grin*

muffinman · 11-25-2009, 02:42 PM

lsgheero · 11-25-2009, 03:36 PM

^^ says it all!

Butters · 11-25-2009, 06:51 PM

i just came....

dear god i want that in my mk2 NOW

Medusa · 11-25-2009, 06:52 PM

Butters · 11-25-2009, 09:15 PM

Paul what kind of power is this thing going to be throwing down?

Paul Woods · 11-26-2009, 01:32 AM

In stock form in the Audi S8 the AHC version i am using delivers 340bhp, but that is with the stock ECU and CATS, i have no CATS and standalone so i'd like to think 350bhp is a minimum it will see.

That's until the stage 2 turbocharged route, then who knows!

sabing · 11-26-2009, 04:00 AM

Wow, crazy build, cant wait to see turbo form

Although with some 7" exhaust tips you should be at 600 horse anyway

MRH · 11-26-2009, 05:14 AM

oh muguhd!

-H

328FTW · 11-26-2009, 06:02 AM

I dedicate that last drink to this project that sounded awesome. Another awesome conversion you have there Mr Woods. I want to see it backed out and thrashed in some empty space haha.

SW21T · 11-26-2009, 06:14 AM

DAAAAAAYYYUUUUUUMMMMMMMM!

Paul Woods · 11-26-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

I want to see it backed out and thrashed in some empty space haha.

Rest assured it will happen, just been told we have been given a free track day to shake the car down properly in private, lots of videos of that i promise.

stlkid2008 · 11-26-2009, 01:54 PM

Ok now do mine. Very very nice

Paul Woods · 12-01-2009, 02:34 PM

Another little taster... Other mr2 :: 01122009002.flv video by UK_MRV6 - Photobucket

scottohno · 12-01-2009, 11:37 PM

you are a god.

my turn.

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11-24-2009, 09:22 AM	#141 (permalink)
IDon'tKnow but I can find out. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: DC Posts: 392 Thanks: 6 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	There are a few reasons to stay away from the J37. It's very expensive right now, the block casting is a little bit different so it won't bolt up to the old 6MT (and the new one is SH-AWD), and did I mention it is expensive? I bought two J Series engines last week: a J32A2 (02 TL Type-S) and a J35A4 (04 Honda Odyssey) to frankenstein together. Having lurched Honda forums about this engine series almost constantly for about a week now, I'm confident that I can make 300+ whp without getting into aftermarket internals. The Odyssey rods and crank are going into the TL motor..... I've already got DC headers for it..... the factory TL-S pistons are forged and will make 11.8:1 compression with the Odyssey stroke.... there is a good bit of power to be had opening up the 3 piece intake manifold and increasing it's volume.... the throttle body bolt pattern is the same as a D-Serier (crazy?) so I can get a cheap 72mm TB upgrade... and I'm going to run Megasquirt. If that doesn't spell +300whp I'll need to get my hands on the newer (not newest mind you, they are not compatible) TL-S cams. The main motivation for going with this motor is the LSD 6 Speed box ($600-$800 if your lucky) being available for the J series. Also, the plenum is above the engine instead of off to the side like Toyota V6's so I might not need to hack the bulkhead as much. It's going to be a fun project and I think I am going to be very pleased with the eventual results. I'll have a build thread going sometime soon. I hope to see the MR8 up and running soon. This is definitely pushing the envelope. I don't know if the question has already been asked, but did you weight the motor & trans while they were out of the car?

11-24-2009, 01:27 PM	#142 (permalink)
Paul Woods Don't talk it, do it. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 535 Thanks: 10 Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	No we didn't get a chance but the engine is no heavier than a 3vz v6, mind you the trans is a little heavier so i would say it is going to be about 30kgs heavier than a v6 mk1.

11-24-2009, 01:49 PM	#143 (permalink)
Butters Plays well with himself Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 865 Thanks: 3 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts iTrader Rating: (13/100% )	im blown away... this is an amazing project.

11-24-2009, 01:52 PM	#144 (permalink)
Paul Woods Don't talk it, do it. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 535 Thanks: 10 Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Thanks! Let's hope it works as well as we think it will

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Butters Plays well with himself Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 865 Thanks: 3 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts iTrader Rating: (13/100% )	i just came.... dear god i want that in my mk2 NOW

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11-25-2009, 09:15 PM	#151 (permalink)
Butters Plays well with himself Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 865 Thanks: 3 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts iTrader Rating: (13/100% )	Paul what kind of power is this thing going to be throwing down?

11-26-2009, 01:32 AM	#152 (permalink)
Paul Woods Don't talk it, do it. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 535 Thanks: 10 Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	In stock form in the Audi S8 the AHC version i am using delivers 340bhp, but that is with the stock ECU and CATS, i have no CATS and standalone so i'd like to think 350bhp is a minimum it will see. That's until the stage 2 turbocharged route, then who knows!

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sabing Plasma Donor for HDTV's Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta Posts: 295 Thanks: 13 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Wow, crazy build, cant wait to see turbo form Although with some 7" exhaust tips you should be at 600 horse anyway

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328FTW Crazy Nasty Honey Badger Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,235 Thanks: 24 Thanked 266 Times in 239 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I dedicate that last drink to this project that sounded awesome. Another awesome conversion you have there Mr Woods. I want to see it backed out and thrashed in some empty space haha.

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SW21T 400HP 3rd gen?? Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Washington St Posts: 1,853 Thanks: 143 Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts iTrader Rating: (18/100% )	DAAAAAAYYYUUUUUUMMMMMMMM!

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stlkid2008 No Skills Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 22 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Ok now do mine. Very very nice

12-01-2009, 02:34 PM	#159 (permalink)
Paul Woods Don't talk it, do it. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 535 Thanks: 10 Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Another little taster... Other mr2 :: 01122009002.flv video by UK_MRV6 - Photobucket

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