18x10.5 rim... weighs 8.5 lbs

rhouck · 02-26-2005, 09:53 PM

nope, title is not a typo. 18" x 10.5" rim weighing 8.5 pounds!

Magnesium spokes with a full carbon barrel.... wow

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46703

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they have passed every D.O.T. test including
(a) Radial Fatigue Standard test is 2.5 million cycles ours passed 5 million
(b) Cornering Fatigue 1.2 million cycles
(c) Radial impact testing this is the one that everyone worries about.. our wheel exceeded the imapct test by 60KG which has never been done before.
(d) was a repeat of A, B, C with low profile tire... this test not required by JWL or BSAU
(e) additional impact on unsupported inner flange without tire ( no wheel has ever passed this before our wheel)
(f) CASS test enviormental chamber designed to add age to the wheel
(g) repaet A, B, C on wheel post CASS test

after all testing the wheel was pressure tested to assure no micro cracks

This wheel compared to the Z06 wheel was twice as strong and held up better in impact testing then the Z06 wheels and we did it without the center spokes we also did all the same testing once again with only 1 support bolt in each spoke rather then the normal 2
People should realize how strong carbon fiber is... look at all the aircraft using this stuff.... unlike Alum this does not have a memory if you bend alum one time it looses more then half of its strenght..... I guess what I am saying after we tested these wheels, I do not like driving on any other wheels.

Cost? Currently between $2500-3000.... per wheel. Cost is expected to come down.... but most likely never dip below $1500... again per wheel.

And yes they're ugly as poop!

Ncturnal · 02-26-2005, 10:18 PM

They may be ugly, but I'd have to say I'd sport them.

Mister2.2 · 02-26-2005, 10:23 PM

I think I would too. I bet they wouldnt look all that bad once on the car with some big rotors / calipers.

rhouck · 02-26-2005, 10:24 PM

Well luckily they can color the cf for you... I would probably get it as dark as possible and then get the spokes in a dark dark color as well... perhaps just traditional mag heh

they were talking about selling just the cf barrels to companies too so they could just add on their own center sections

haha not going to help bring costs down but might help in the looks department

I can't even imagine how nice wheels that light must feel hehe

Ncturnal · 02-26-2005, 10:27 PM

I can't imagine hitting a pothole with them.

Mister2.2 · 02-26-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ncturnal

I can't imagine hitting a pothole with them.

Why is that?

DavidV · 02-26-2005, 10:34 PM

I'll take mine in 15 x 8 please. Hello five pound wheels.

-- DavidV

rhouck · 02-26-2005, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ncturnal

I can't imagine hitting a pothole with them.

they are supposed to be ridiculously strong so potholes should not be an issue. the only "worry" is that a cf barrel wouldn't bend... it would shatter

but something tells me if you hit something hard enough to shatter the wheel, your car is going to have enough other problems the wheel will be the least of your concerns

rhouck · 02-26-2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidV

I'll take mine in 15 x 8 please. Hello five pound wheels.

-- DavidV

makes a te37 mag look downright porky

DrakesKakes · 02-27-2005, 03:37 AM

According to the test info, pot holes shouldn;t be a problem....
Ide def rock them. Although your not saving much weight ..... only if you run a METAL rim of the same size.

Running a 17 x 9 Aluminum wheel will weight the same as that wheel, if both had rubber.
I have to hand it to them though, thats one badass wheel.... i bet ya the rappers throw some spinnahz on it!

EL PAALO · 02-27-2005, 09:23 AM

Awesome rhouck.
AEZ has had something similar for some time but is still in the testing phases, afaik ..... cf outer, aluminum center.

Drakes ....... show me this 17x9 wheel that weighs 8.5 lbs .........

DrakesKakes · 02-27-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EL PAALO

Awesome rhouck.
AEZ has had something similar for some time but is still in the testing phases, afaik ..... cf outer, aluminum center.

Drakes ....... show me this 17x9 wheel that weighs 8.5 lbs .........

I was saying if they both had rubber on them...
The added weight in extra tire on the 18x10.5 will make up for the extra weight in metal on the 17in rim

Hell , My wheels with rubber will weigh less than those wrapped up....
My 16x8 weighs 12lbs without tires....

EL PAALO · 02-27-2005, 09:41 AM

you do understand that a 315/35 18 on that wheel will have a ridiculous grip advantage over a 17x9 with a 255/40 17, right?
That wheel wasn't made for folks that can clear their brakes with 17's anyway.
just be in awe of the engineering marvel rhouck brought the forum, damnit!

rhouck · 02-27-2005, 02:12 PM

lol something tells me that if you're paying $2500-3000 per wheel... they're offering it in more than just one size

so comparing it to another wheel in a different size isn't fair... if you really *only* want a 16x8, I'm sure they will make you one in 16x8 and it will put your current rims to utter shame

a mag te37 in 18x8.5 is what like 13 pounds? 4.5 pounds lighter and 2 inches wider is ridiculous haha...

but yes as el paalo pointed out, this is for people running huge tire combos front and back with some BIG OL' honkin rotors that a 16" rim won't even come close to clearing... so if you NEED an 18" wheel, this would be quite the accomplishment.

the hope would be that in a couple of years, perhaps prices will drop below what they even expect... if they can dip down to the ~$1000 mark, they could become rather attainable

el paalo - do you know how much kodiak racing wheels are by chance? in a similar size preferably...

EL PAALO · 02-27-2005, 02:46 PM

they list prices on their site .......... probably 4-500 per wheel in a size like that.

rhouck · 02-27-2005, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EL PAALO

they list prices on their site .......... probably 4-500 per wheel in a size like that.

doh I meant how much they weigh hehe, not prices

DrakesKakes · 02-27-2005, 03:34 PM

4-500 per wheels isn;t all that bad for Carbon fiber ..... ide do it!

EL PAALO · 02-27-2005, 04:01 PM

not sure, call em'.
looks like about 600 for that size, btw. it's 500 each for what I need. :'(

DrakesKakes · 02-28-2005, 12:56 AM

2800 for a Racing wheel setup... that what youll pay for volks =/

rhouck · 02-28-2005, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DrakesKakes

2800 for a Racing wheel setup... that what youll pay for volks =/

heh that's why I'm wondering what Kodiak wheels actually weigh... because it would have to significantly less than a set of te37s or ce28ns before I'd rock them over the volks

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Mister2.2 Cheese it! Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,561 Thanks: 121 Thanked 115 Times in 99 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	I think I would too. I bet they wouldnt look all that bad once on the car with some big rotors / calipers.

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rhouck enter witty title here Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sammamish, WA / Washington, DC Posts: 711 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Well luckily they can color the cf for you... I would probably get it as dark as possible and then get the spokes in a dark dark color as well... perhaps just traditional mag heh they were talking about selling just the cf barrels to companies too so they could just add on their own center sections haha not going to help bring costs down but might help in the looks department I can't even imagine how nice wheels that light must feel hehe

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Ncturnal NoAgendaShow.com Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,446 Thanks: 94 Thanked 158 Times in 125 Posts Blog Entries: 7 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (37/100% )	I can't imagine hitting a pothole with them.

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DavidV Cage Fighter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Moss Beach, CA Posts: 454 Thanks: 2 Thanked 49 Times in 6 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	I'll take mine in 15 x 8 please. Hello five pound wheels. -- DavidV

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DrakesKakes Cream Filling! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 393 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	According to the test info, pot holes shouldn;t be a problem.... Ide def rock them. Although your not saving much weight ..... only if you run a METAL rim of the same size. Running a 17 x 9 Aluminum wheel will weight the same as that wheel, if both had rubber. I have to hand it to them though, thats one badass wheel.... i bet ya the rappers throw some spinnahz on it!

02-27-2005, 09:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
EL PAALO Wheels make the car. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 2,671 Thanks: 4 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	you do understand that a 315/35 18 on that wheel will have a ridiculous grip advantage over a 17x9 with a 255/40 17, right? That wheel wasn't made for folks that can clear their brakes with 17's anyway. just be in awe of the engineering marvel rhouck brought the forum, damnit!

02-27-2005, 02:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
rhouck enter witty title here Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sammamish, WA / Washington, DC Posts: 711 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	lol something tells me that if you're paying $2500-3000 per wheel... they're offering it in more than just one size so comparing it to another wheel in a different size isn't fair... if you really only want a 16x8, I'm sure they will make you one in 16x8 and it will put your current rims to utter shame a mag te37 in 18x8.5 is what like 13 pounds? 4.5 pounds lighter and 2 inches wider is ridiculous haha... but yes as el paalo pointed out, this is for people running huge tire combos front and back with some BIG OL' honkin rotors that a 16" rim won't even come close to clearing... so if you NEED an 18" wheel, this would be quite the accomplishment. the hope would be that in a couple of years, perhaps prices will drop below what they even expect... if they can dip down to the ~$1000 mark, they could become rather attainable el paalo - do you know how much kodiak racing wheels are by chance? in a similar size preferably...

02-27-2005, 02:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
EL PAALO Wheels make the car. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 2,671 Thanks: 4 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	they list prices on their site .......... probably 4-500 per wheel in a size like that.

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DrakesKakes Cream Filling! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 393 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	4-500 per wheels isn;t all that bad for Carbon fiber ..... ide do it!

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EL PAALO Wheels make the car. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 2,671 Thanks: 4 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	not sure, call em'. looks like about 600 for that size, btw. it's 500 each for what I need. :'(

02-28-2005, 12:56 AM	#19 (permalink)
DrakesKakes Cream Filling! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 393 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	2800 for a Racing wheel setup... that what youll pay for volks =/