What Is The Best Suspension Setup?

Supercross · 08-27-2009, 09:25 PM

I have a 91 NA with KSport Coilovers(installed by previous owner). The left front is leaking and i'm looking for a fix. I wanted to just replace the insert but after checking the opinions of others, it seems that there are many others with reliability horror stories with KSport.

What suspension set-ups are you guys running and are you pleased? If you had to replace your suspension, would you do the same set-up again?

Thanks in advance

MR2BOY23 · 08-27-2009, 10:05 PM

I use yellow bilstein shocks, probably the best fixed rate shocks for the sw20. Along with some tein springs very good for street use

nitrofreak06 · 08-28-2009, 07:38 AM

i have TEIN coilovers on mine. took me a little bit to get used to the stiffness on the roads but i love it.

kbrew8991 · 08-28-2009, 10:15 AM

what kind of driving do you typically do?

RePete · 08-28-2009, 04:13 PM

I've been through stock '91, stock '95 w/ TRD sways, then TRD springs w/ Koni yellows. Now I'm on TEIN Super Streets, inherited from the PO. After my initial hesitance and after driving on the coilovers for a couple of months, I really like them. They're lousy over potholes but I'm surprised how much more suspension travel I have and their real 'independence' from each other, how well they track, they're controllability.

I can't say it's the best suspension ever, but it is quite an improvement over the best that stock has to offer.

One thing I'm not yet familiar with, their limits. They don't give me a whole lot of time to react once I've hit it. I've already spun out twice (but it was wet out & I miscalculated).

Redstar · 08-28-2009, 04:38 PM

"Best" is awfully subjective...

My 2 is mostly street driven, but I do try to get to a few autocrosses and open track events when I can/when the car cooperates.

I'm pretty happy with my formula so far:

Koni yellow's + TRD springs + TRD sway bars + Two's R Us endlinks + Prothane bushings + new ball joints + new tie rods + a good alignment = win.

TomsMR2 · 08-28-2009, 05:26 PM

stock 93 springs with konis or bilsteins and big swaybars, maybe addcos. people with street cars and coilovers and kinda kidding themselves.

Supercross · 08-28-2009, 06:15 PM

Thanks. I typically am a daily driver with some spirited driving on the weekends. I don't like to beat the car up as I plan on keeping it for a long time.

I have had a few BMWs in the past that had Bilsteins and they were awesome. I just haven't been able to locate any for the Mr2. If anybody knows where I can get a set, it would be much appreciated.

I know that "best" is very subjective but I figured the only ones who would respond would be the ones who were passionate about their suspension set-ups. I figure if you can't passionate about what you're doing then why do it?

You guys are awesome. Thanks again!!!1

hustlerboy20 · 11-12-2010, 10:00 PM

how do you set your camber...my inside of my wheels are getting chewed up quick :-(

Oteck · 11-12-2010, 10:23 PM

these are my cars jack stands trd everything visible + bilstiens

awaken · 11-13-2010, 01:00 AM

This was Eibach Sportlines with Tokiko Adjustables. Bad ride IMHO for when I had them installed. You felt EVERYTHING, but handled amazing. It was my first lowering experience and I neglected the bushings, ball joints and reseting the camber. Probably wouldve had a different opinion if I did that. Take lots of advice and hopefully you'll make a informed decision.

I like what Redstar has... definitely something to seriously consider. Cant decide between TRD springs or Tanabes right now, but defnitely go with KONI yellows, they have a great track record.

hustlerboy20 · 11-13-2010, 02:05 AM

where's a good place to buy yellow billies or konies? im in the U.S

poopeeroo · 11-13-2010, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hustlerboy20

where's a good place to buy yellow billies or konies? im in the U.S

Twos R Us

hustlerboy20 · 11-13-2010, 02:28 AM

im not seeing them...any links ?

poopeeroo · 11-13-2010, 02:42 AM

Twos R Us - Parts for Toyotas from Club MR2

hustlerboy20 · 11-13-2010, 03:10 AM

that just shows springs...no koni's there..nothing is even yellow lol

poopeeroo · 11-13-2010, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hustlerboy20

that just shows springs...no koni's there..nothing is even yellow lol

dont know whats wrong with your browser but when i click the link i gave you it brings me to the konis

hustlerboy20 · 11-13-2010, 02:48 PM

if i drop an inch all around on the springs is that a significant drop or will that be just perfect cause i believe shocks start at an inch drop and go up..im looking at tein springs for my koni's

awaken · 11-14-2010, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hustlerboy20

if i drop an inch all around on the springs is that a significant drop or will that be just perfect cause i believe shocks start at an inch drop and go up..im looking at tein springs for my koni's

Everyones got a different version of "perfect".The size of your rims & tire will factor in. With 17" tenzos and the right tires it should look very nice and handle much better.

Jason.MZW20 · 11-14-2010, 07:56 AM

Best is something you can change to suit any given condition/road/track, IMO.

The stock suspension is a good compromise between handling performance and comfort. Some upgraded sway bars will lessen linear roll without making it harsh like lowering springs or coilovers. Many of the roads in my area have been damaged by rain, so it upsets the car quite badly.

For wet conditions, a softer suspension setup is more compliant and is extremely fun. Upgraded/stiffer suspension tries to push the tire too much when there isn't as much grip to be had, so many end up spinning off the road.

08-27-2009, 09:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Supercross No Skills Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	What Is The Best Suspension Setup? I have a 91 NA with KSport Coilovers(installed by previous owner). The left front is leaking and i'm looking for a fix. I wanted to just replace the insert but after checking the opinions of others, it seems that there are many others with reliability horror stories with KSport. What suspension set-ups are you guys running and are you pleased? If you had to replace your suspension, would you do the same set-up again? Thanks in advance

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awaken Oh, what a feeling Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	This was Eibach Sportlines with Tokiko Adjustables. Bad ride IMHO for when I had them installed. You felt EVERYTHING, but handled amazing. It was my first lowering experience and I neglected the bushings, ball joints and reseting the camber. Probably wouldve had a different opinion if I did that. Take lots of advice and hopefully you'll make a informed decision. I like what Redstar has... definitely something to seriously consider. Cant decide between TRD springs or Tanabes right now, but defnitely go with KONI yellows, they have a great track record. Last edited by awaken; 11-13-2010 at 01:14 AM..

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08-27-2009, 10:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
MR2BOY23 Some Skills Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I use yellow bilstein shocks, probably the best fixed rate shocks for the sw20. Along with some tein springs very good for street use

08-28-2009, 07:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
nitrofreak06 Cage Fighter Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 235 Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i have TEIN coilovers on mine. took me a little bit to get used to the stiffness on the roads but i love it.

08-28-2009, 10:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
kbrew8991 gimme some turns Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,685 Thanks: 76 Thanked 82 Times in 70 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	what kind of driving do you typically do?

08-28-2009, 04:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
RePete No Frills Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Western Canada Posts: 3,882 Thanks: 0 Thanked 251 Times in 242 Posts Blog Entries: 4 iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	I've been through stock '91, stock '95 w/ TRD sways, then TRD springs w/ Koni yellows. Now I'm on TEIN Super Streets, inherited from the PO. After my initial hesitance and after driving on the coilovers for a couple of months, I really like them. They're lousy over potholes but I'm surprised how much more suspension travel I have and their real 'independence' from each other, how well they track, they're controllability. I can't say it's the best suspension ever, but it is quite an improvement over the best that stock has to offer. One thing I'm not yet familiar with, their limits. They don't give me a whole lot of time to react once I've hit it. I've already spun out twice (but it was wet out & I miscalculated).

08-28-2009, 04:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Redstar My other cars are jealous Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 439 Thanks: 21 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts iTrader Rating: (12/100% )	"Best" is awfully subjective... My 2 is mostly street driven, but I do try to get to a few autocrosses and open track events when I can/when the car cooperates. I'm pretty happy with my formula so far: Koni yellow's + TRD springs + TRD sway bars + Two's R Us endlinks + Prothane bushings + new ball joints + new tie rods + a good alignment = win.

08-28-2009, 06:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Supercross No Skills Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Thanks. I typically am a daily driver with some spirited driving on the weekends. I don't like to beat the car up as I plan on keeping it for a long time. I have had a few BMWs in the past that had Bilsteins and they were awesome. I just haven't been able to locate any for the Mr2. If anybody knows where I can get a set, it would be much appreciated. I know that "best" is very subjective but I figured the only ones who would respond would be the ones who were passionate about their suspension set-ups. I figure if you can't passionate about what you're doing then why do it? You guys are awesome. Thanks again!!!1

11-12-2010, 10:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
hustlerboy20 Some Skills Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 99 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	how do you set your camber...my inside of my wheels are getting chewed up quick :-(

11-13-2010, 02:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
hustlerboy20 Some Skills Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 99 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	where's a good place to buy yellow billies or konies? im in the U.S

11-13-2010, 02:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
hustlerboy20 Some Skills Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 99 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	im not seeing them...any links ?

11-13-2010, 02:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
poopeeroo Banned Seller Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 444 Thanks: 4 Thanked 19 Times in 18 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	Twos R Us - Parts for Toyotas from Club MR2

11-13-2010, 03:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
hustlerboy20 Some Skills Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 99 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	that just shows springs...no koni's there..nothing is even yellow lol

11-13-2010, 02:48 PM	#18 (permalink)
hustlerboy20 Some Skills Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 99 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	if i drop an inch all around on the springs is that a significant drop or will that be just perfect cause i believe shocks start at an inch drop and go up..im looking at tein springs for my koni's

11-14-2010, 07:56 AM	#20 (permalink)
Jason.MZW20 Pig Snout Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Victorville, CA Posts: 1,370 Thanks: 15 Thanked 111 Times in 102 Posts Blog Entries: 6 iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Best is something you can change to suit any given condition/road/track, IMO. The stock suspension is a good compromise between handling performance and comfort. Some upgraded sway bars will lessen linear roll without making it harsh like lowering springs or coilovers. Many of the roads in my area have been damaged by rain, so it upsets the car quite badly. For wet conditions, a softer suspension setup is more compliant and is extremely fun. Upgraded/stiffer suspension tries to push the tire too much when there isn't as much grip to be had, so many end up spinning off the road.