Nemesis or AEM

rcohen · 01-01-2007, 11:01 AM

Nemesis or AEM

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I am buying a stand alone this week. Just looking for input on just these two systems. Any opinions or other input appreciated. AEM or Hydra Nemesis and why..

Thanks in advance

Mekkahfire · 01-01-2007, 11:38 AM

If you want your on-board expresso maker to work, get the Hydra.

Enthalpy · 01-01-2007, 02:41 PM

It really comes down to what you value more. This has been debated quite a bit, and is actually somewhat of a hot-button topic. I encourage you to do a search on both this board and <the other that won't be mentioned> in order to avoid anarchy.

If you want to discuss some of the things you found offline, feel free to email me. I have tuned both systems many, many times. damon.becker (at) comcast (dot) net.

Beautiful engine, by the way!

Mekkahfire · 01-01-2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enthalpy

Beautiful engine, by the way!

I agree!

rcohen · 01-01-2007, 11:40 PM

Thanks guys...

mr2slow4you · 01-01-2007, 11:45 PM

Are you tunning it yourself or a shop? If you are not tunning it yourself you might want to strongly base your decision on what the shop near you or where you would potentially take it prefer to tune.

kblake · 01-07-2007, 10:49 PM

Figure out who is going to tune it, and then go with their preference. (odds are heavily in favor of the AEM there)

One thing that was a critical deciding factor for me is the AEM serial gauge. It allows you to monitor any sensor that the AEM monitors, up to 19 of them, all on ONE GAUGE. There is no way to do that with the Nemesis unless you keep a laptop connected to it all the time.

Ken

Enthalpy · 01-08-2007, 06:12 PM

Hydra is working up something similar.

Imr2an · 01-08-2007, 07:37 PM

I have recently gotten the AEM installed. Seems really easy to tune. Haven't really played too much with it. But my choices were AEM and Greedy and AEM was preferred by the friend of mine doing the work. He said it was much simpler to install then the Greddy. Hope that helps.

Enthalpy · 01-09-2007, 11:42 AM

The Nemesis will soon incorporate with a dash setup as well, so a digital dash can pull info from the Nemesis! http://www.aimsports.com./

kblake · 01-09-2007, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enthalpy

The Nemesis will soon incorporate with a dash setup as well, so a digital dash can pull info from the Nemesis! http://www.aimsports.com./

the AEM has had that functionality for quite awhile now. It's nice to see Hydra stepping up to provide their users with some of the advantages that the other EMS's have been providing.

Ken

Enthalpy · 01-09-2007, 09:55 PM

I think it's impressive that the Hydra folks have caught up with AEM EMS in many areas, despite the advantage AEM had with an acquired EMS and years' head start.

Mekkahfire · 01-10-2007, 12:36 PM

And a little larger budget, wouldnt ya say?

Enthalpy · 01-10-2007, 03:23 PM

I have no idea what the finances of Hydra vs. AEM are. AEM bought the GEMS EMS and renamed it the AEM EMS, then did some development on it to modernize it. Hydra designed their system from the ground up using more updated features from the onset.

Financially, they both involve a sizable investment.

blackbob · 01-17-2007, 06:28 PM

What are your performance goals ? That too is an important one to consider,some would say the bigger the investment,the more dependable or "backup" you wont the system is case something was to fail.

Enthalpy · 01-19-2007, 12:10 AM

THIS JUST IN:

The Nemesis can now be incorporated with ANY MXL dash!

Linkie Linkie

Oteck · 01-20-2007, 01:31 AM

i wish the nemisis can output odb2 codes

Enthalpy · 01-20-2007, 01:45 AM

The ones that will do that are fairly few and far between. (A little alliteration there for you.)

Weasy2k · 01-22-2007, 02:42 AM

pfft the stinking perfect power xms does...to bad it doesnt work...

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rcohen No Skills Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 117 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Nemesis or AEM Nemesis or AEM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am buying a stand alone this week. Just looking for input on just these two systems. Any opinions or other input appreciated. AEM or Hydra Nemesis and why.. Thanks in advance

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01-01-2007, 11:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mekkahfire Gone But Not Forgotten Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Westerville OH Posts: 1,351 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/75% )	If you want your on-board expresso maker to work, get the Hydra.

01-01-2007, 02:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Enthalpy EMS Harmonizer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,226 Thanks: 8 Thanked 55 Times in 43 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	It really comes down to what you value more. This has been debated quite a bit, and is actually somewhat of a hot-button topic. I encourage you to do a search on both this board and <the other that won't be mentioned> in order to avoid anarchy. If you want to discuss some of the things you found offline, feel free to email me. I have tuned both systems many, many times. damon.becker (at) comcast (dot) net. Beautiful engine, by the way!

01-01-2007, 11:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
rcohen No Skills Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 117 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Thanks guys...

01-01-2007, 11:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
mr2slow4you ME out of training :) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clemmons, NC Posts: 2,336 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Are you tunning it yourself or a shop? If you are not tunning it yourself you might want to strongly base your decision on what the shop near you or where you would potentially take it prefer to tune.

01-07-2007, 10:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Figure out who is going to tune it, and then go with their preference. (odds are heavily in favor of the AEM there) One thing that was a critical deciding factor for me is the AEM serial gauge. It allows you to monitor any sensor that the AEM monitors, up to 19 of them, all on ONE GAUGE. There is no way to do that with the Nemesis unless you keep a laptop connected to it all the time. Ken

01-08-2007, 06:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
Enthalpy EMS Harmonizer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,226 Thanks: 8 Thanked 55 Times in 43 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Hydra is working up something similar.

01-08-2007, 07:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
Imr2an Some Skills Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 59 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I have recently gotten the AEM installed. Seems really easy to tune. Haven't really played too much with it. But my choices were AEM and Greedy and AEM was preferred by the friend of mine doing the work. He said it was much simpler to install then the Greddy. Hope that helps.

01-09-2007, 11:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
Enthalpy EMS Harmonizer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,226 Thanks: 8 Thanked 55 Times in 43 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	The Nemesis will soon incorporate with a dash setup as well, so a digital dash can pull info from the Nemesis! http://www.aimsports.com./

01-09-2007, 09:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
Enthalpy EMS Harmonizer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,226 Thanks: 8 Thanked 55 Times in 43 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I think it's impressive that the Hydra folks have caught up with AEM EMS in many areas, despite the advantage AEM had with an acquired EMS and years' head start.

01-10-2007, 12:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mekkahfire Gone But Not Forgotten Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Westerville OH Posts: 1,351 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/75% )	And a little larger budget, wouldnt ya say?

01-10-2007, 03:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
Enthalpy EMS Harmonizer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,226 Thanks: 8 Thanked 55 Times in 43 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I have no idea what the finances of Hydra vs. AEM are. AEM bought the GEMS EMS and renamed it the AEM EMS, then did some development on it to modernize it. Hydra designed their system from the ground up using more updated features from the onset. Financially, they both involve a sizable investment.

01-17-2007, 06:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
blackbob wiring....odds and ends Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stationed in Guam Posts: 753 Thanks: 61 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	What are your performance goals ? That too is an important one to consider,some would say the bigger the investment,the more dependable or "backup" you wont the system is case something was to fail.

01-19-2007, 12:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
Enthalpy EMS Harmonizer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,226 Thanks: 8 Thanked 55 Times in 43 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	THIS JUST IN: The Nemesis can now be incorporated with ANY MXL dash! Linkie Linkie

01-20-2007, 01:45 AM	#18 (permalink)
Enthalpy EMS Harmonizer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,226 Thanks: 8 Thanked 55 Times in 43 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	The ones that will do that are fairly few and far between. (A little alliteration there for you.)

01-22-2007, 02:42 AM	#19 (permalink)
Weasy2k What is an MR2? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,891 Thanks: 33 Thanked 82 Times in 68 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	pfft the stinking perfect power xms does...to bad it doesnt work...