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Old 02-17-2008, 07:48 PM   #21 (permalink)
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RE: wow...cant beleived you guys dont even know where this mr2 really come from

I want to clarify some misconceptions right now and clear the air. Brian had NOTHING to do with the writing of this. I was asked to contact the CURRENT owner of this car, whom is him, so I spent some time and did so. I interviewed Brian over the phone, taking notes of what was said. I then emailed the notes to a member of this forums staff, whom to my knowledge forward it to someone else whom wrote it. Brain NEVER said Phantasy Kolors did the work on this car.

This car has gone through 2 different transformations. There was the Original body work, and then the current body work. Some of the original bodywork is still left over (the current shaved door handles, moldings, reverse lights and relocation of the gas cap). He said that the ORIGINAL bodywork, which included what was written above, was done by the Father and Son team of Toby and Larry Sanders, now of Phantasy Kolors. They where not at Phantasy Kolors at the time the work was done. He never said Phantasy Kolors did ANY work, and never tried to claim credit for it.

As I said above, he NEVER claimed Phantasy Kolors did the work. Anything that is inaccurate is due to lost in translation. Somewhere between me taking notes and the final person whom wrote it, Brian's words where messed up. This is nothing of his own fault. As the person to whom contacted Brian and talked to him on the phone, and took the initial notes. I will take full responsibility for any and all of the inaccuracies above. Perhaps I did not make my notes clear enough for the person whom I sent them to. I understood what I had written, but perhaps my wording confused others. I apologize to Brian, Ian, and anyone else whom is upset or involved in this mess.
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
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This mr2 was actually from Team Menace back in 2006..As far as Body works well it was my friend in Canada that did this Body work...And Brian sorry to say but at least tell everyone the truth regarding the car..I thought your my boy, thats why I sold this car to you...But after reading this comments and your info about the car, i dont think its right to give those kind of info to this board...This Mr2 board actually featured my car last December 2005...if im not mistaken....I have the same photo shoot and pics....By the way Im Ian O. Shoel...i built this mr2 and sold it to Brian....all im asking is tell the true story about the ride cause really theres nothing thats been change in this vehicle...the only thing that was done is the door panels speaker.....Who ever is the administrator for this board please email me....my email is ishoel@hotmail.com....Thankyou everyone for the positive comment you guys have input....

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Old 02-18-2008, 04:03 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Finallyu found out the truth...apologize to Brian

Here is the situation...Finally found out the Truth...I have spoken to Brian regarding the interview that he had for this board as part of being the Mr2 of the month...All that specs and interview was added by the moderator and who ever runs this board...Brian did not say anything about Phantasy Kolors did the body work, that was actually a story made up by the moderator or who ever interviewed him...Brian I'm sorry about replying to this post...I'm not accusing you anything...infact i would email this adminastrator for this board...Brian is been my boy since this whole importscene started way back...Thats why I sold him my ride, and he is taking a good care of the car...
Once again, please moderator or admisnistrator get your story straight, so people does not assume things...and actually its better to have the rite information, as far as you guys running this board....

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Old 02-18-2008, 04:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The board attempts to present a story that's entertaining and as close to factual as possible. Unfortunately, sometimes clarity is lost in translation. It has never been our intention to reassign or take away credit where due. We're just a bunch of car-nuts too, not historians on each and every MR2 we get permission to present. In the past, it's been our goal to present cars to which originate within our community to extend congratulations and a little publicity to someone who has worked hard to get their car to the state it is in. We see ShowcaseMR2 as a little pat on the back for the guy that goes the extra mile. Perhaps we should be slightly more careful on who and we give 'props' to in the future. We'd hate to step on any more toes.

MR2Board extends their apologies to any party of which the previously posted article caused any animosity. In the future considerable care will be taken to not offend anyone.

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Here is the situation...Finally found out the Truth...I have spoken to Brian regarding the interview that he had for this board as part of being the Mr2 of the month...All that specs and interview was added by the moderator and who ever runs this board...Brian did not say anything about Phantasy Kolors did the body work, that was actually a story made up by the moderator or who ever interviewed him...Brian I'm sorry about replying to this post...I'm not accusing you anything...infact i would email this adminastrator for this board...Brian is been my boy since this whole importscene started way back...Thats why I sold him my ride, and he is taking a good care of the car...
Once again, please moderator or admisnistrator get your story straight, so people does not assume things...and actually its better to have the rite information, as far as you guys running this board....

If you do have questions or concerns call me 2067950505

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Old 02-18-2008, 04:59 PM   #25 (permalink)
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A reasonable person would be happy their (former) car was posted instead of making such a fuss. I mean really, what does it even matter (or than your ego trip)?

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Brian sure sounded like "your boy" when you were calling him out.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:15 AM   #26 (permalink)
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AK Autoworks did majority of the original bodywork.

I remember when this beauty was getting started. It turned out awesome! I prefer this more than the s15 head lights
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:21 PM   #27 (permalink)
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All that specs and interview was added by the moderator and who ever runs this board...Brian did not say anything about Phantasy Kolors did the body work, that was actually a story made up by the moderator or who ever interviewed him...Brian I'm sorry about replying to this post...I'm not accusing you anything...infact i would email this adminastrator for this board...Brian is been my boy since this whole importscene started way back...Thats why I sold him my ride, and he is taking a good care of the car...
Once again, please moderator or admisnistrator get your story straight, so people does not assume things...and actually its better to have the rite information, as far as you guys running this board....

If you do have questions or concerns call me 2067950505

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Ian, first off, I emailed you several times. If you have anything to say to me about the interview, then email me back. You have chosen to post here instead of emailing me back. Don't post up in here, email me.

You ask people involved to contact you. I am the one whom conducted the interview, I stated that in here AND via email to you. Yet when I have emailed you on several occasions...I get no response. Stop publicly asking someone to contact you, when you have chosen to ignore my emails. You should have my email. I contacted you. You chose NOT to contact me. End of Story.

I didn't purposefully "get the wrong info," and I don't appreciate being accused of such. I stated that maybe my initial notes where not clear, and that my wording confused the people I forwarded them to. I told you this via email, AND I posted that in here. I DID NOT ADD those things, and I DID NOT MAKE THEM UP. As I said, it was a case of LOST IN TRANSLATION, as my notes were passed from one person to the next. We DID correct it, so this "please get your facts straight" comment is not needed. I have tired hard to correct the facts in this situation, as have the powers that be here. I have worked hard to straighten this out, and I do not appreciates being told I "made something up" when I explained what happened and apologized. I never tried to give someone incorrect info. I stated that above. I took the blame, and said maybe my notes where not written clear enough for the other people to understand. I apologized for that, yet you chose to say what I quoted above. I emailed you, I apologized. If you have anything else to say, you have my email, so email me and DO NOT say it in here. You gave your email and asked someone to contact you, and as the person whom conducted the interview I did so. You have ignored the emailed, and now posted your phone number. There is no need for that. You know how to contact me via email, as I have contact you (and you ignored it). This does not need to be public dirty laundry any more than it already is. If you have something to discuss, email me. Otherwise, drop it. Period...

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AK Autoworks did majority of the original bodywork.

I remember when this beauty was getting started. It turned out awesome! I prefer this more than the s15 head lights
Don't leave out credit where credit is due, since that's what started this mess to begin with...with that said...

If you are going back to the ORIGINAL BODYWORK on the MR2, which you ARE, since you mentioned the s15 lights...the father and son team of Toby and Larry Sanders did a good amount of the ORIGINAL bodywork...

if you leave that out your just doing what started this mess to begin with...

Also, I do know there are ppl whom prefer the "original" more wild version of the car

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Save your car show drama BS for car shows.
BRAVO!!! 100% AGREE!! Can we all PLEASE listen to him and get back on track? Leave the Car Show BS Drama at the shows, and don't bring it to this site...we don't care for it nor the whining.

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A reasonable person would be happy their (former) car was posted instead of making such a fuss. I mean really, what does it even matter (or than your ego trip)?


Originally Posted by Menacemr2
Brian is been my boy since this whole importscene started way back


Brian sure sounded like "your boy" when you were calling him out.
I agree here too. If you and Brian are friends, you should have spoken to Brian before your first post and found out what was going on, instead of calling him out (then speaking to him after the fact and after the damage is done) and starting a load of drama this forum neither wants nor needs...*2 cents*


NOW PLEASE...as has been said by others...enough of this BS and Chest Banging....back on track

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Old 02-19-2008, 03:04 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Badass MR2. I was not a fan of the Do Luck kit for the MR2....until I saw it on this one. It's one of my favorite MR2s.
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:25 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Don't leave out credit where credit is due, since that's what started this mess to begin with...with that said...
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Oops. I should've clarified I meant the Do-Luck work only since it was local shop that did it. I didn't know who did the original S15 head light work.

Like I said before, I think the car looks great! And its nice to see something different.
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:56 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Who cares who did the work. The current owner can take credit for the car, nothing wrong with that. Anyway, nice car, and a well deserved win
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Old 02-20-2008, 01:22 AM   #31 (permalink)
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God MR2's are just so gay. We all need to go buy real cars......like a pinto or a woody wagon like clark had
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:14 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Who cares who did the work?
The only one who seems to care is the guy who shouldn't have sold it if it's going to bother him this bad.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:44 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:27 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Who cares who did the work. The current owner can take credit for the car, nothing wrong with that. Anyway, nice car, and a well deserved win
Very beautiful car, and I fully agree
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:44 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Smile WOW WHAT HAPPEN

Wow i don't even know what happen!!!!
I have been gone out of town and then i come back to this. Well im happy it all got taken care of. I apologize to Mr2.com for all this mess. I never thought my Mr2 becoming car of the month would start so much confusion & misconception and for that i apologize. Well thanks for all the great comments & support and also thanks to the moderator's and admisnistrator for fixing the situation as fast as they did. Also on a better note the Do-luck USA Mr2 has now been sold sold!!!!!


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...I never thought my Mr2 becoming car of the month would start so much confusion & misconception and for that i apologize.
Your MR2 didn't cause anything. It was a douche bag with an ego problem that caused all the fuss.

Who is the new buyer?
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Old 02-20-2008, 05:17 PM   #37 (permalink)
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