Differentals

Capt.Evergreen · 07-17-2009, 02:15 PM

so whats an interchangeable diff that is same in size..? uum I heard of swaping the gears from a BMW,, but wich one... um if anybody was ever intersted and ever tryed this... my Nissan buddys will swap diffs from the J30,,, but thats houseing and all.. we would just need the Gears... lets have some fun... or summit has diffs for around 400... i could just take mine down there and match it up with another... thanks a lot..

Capt. EverGreen

328FTW · 07-18-2009, 05:19 AM

Depends what you want to achieve, closer ratios, higher ratios or just replace the ones you have.
I'm pretty happy with the c50 ratios for what I do they are a bit high for the n/a to fully exploit but the z motor overcomes that. There is the c52 as well its ratios are different, and the c60 6spd which can be adapted.

.....Or just go 2L and use an E series with lsd

Capt.Evergreen · 07-19-2009, 01:14 PM

Ya I don't want to change trannys just the diff... I want a 2.0 way or at least 1.5

LokiRx7 · 07-21-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

Ya I don't want to change trannys just the diff... I want a 2.0 way or at least 1.5

Well you have a front wheel drive style transaxle. That means the transmission and differential are the same thing. In order to change the ring and pinion you'll need to drop the transmission.

And you DONT need a 2 way in an MR2... If you are a drifter go get a 240 to tear up. Mid engine cars arent generally used for drifting because they cant achieve the extreme angles front engine cars can.

Capt.Evergreen · 07-22-2009, 04:46 PM

um yes i do need a 2.0 way or 1.5... the diff and tranny are two different thins... I have been sliding my AW11 for about a year straight now... "achiveving" incredible angle... if i wanted to conform to the rest of dead fish going with the flow i would have bought a 240... thanks for the help LokiRx7... people weld there diff for rally on the MR2s as well for drift... i guess u would rather buy one for a grand instead of recycleing good parts.. i Know u can use a BMW gears in the aw11 but witch one... if u cant drift too bad leave it to the pros... look for MDMA ull see me... sorry for the harsh sayings... just don't try to tell me what i cant do sir... if u can make an 800 hp LS1 powered Prelude u can drift an MR2... If u can drift a Smart Car then u Can drift an mr2.. if the MR2 is feathered in the Drift bible then u can drift an AW11...

Capt.EverGreen

LokiRx7 · 07-22-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

um yes i do need a 2.0 way or 1.5... the diff and tranny are two different thins... I have been sliding my AW11 for about a year straight now... "achiveving" incredible angle... if i wanted to conform to the rest of dead fish going with the flow i would have bought a 240... thanks for the help LokiRx7... people weld there diff for rally on the MR2s as well for drift... i guess u would rather buy one for a grand instead of recycleing good parts.. i Know u can use a BMW gears in the aw11 but witch one... if u cant drift too bad leave it to the pros... look for MDMA ull see me... sorry for the harsh sayings... just don't try to tell me what i cant do sir... if u can make an 800 hp LS1 powered Prelude u can drift an MR2... If u can drift a Smart Car then u Can drift an mr2.. if the MR2 is feathered in the Drift bible then u can drift an AW11...

Capt.EverGreen

:FACEPALM:

Oh wow, I didnt realize you were a pro, I am SO sorry.

YOUR DIFFERENTIAL IS INSIDE YOUR TRANSMISSION ON AN MR2......

But anyway, I auto-x my car, and I have yet to encounter a situation where I said... Gee I could really use a limited slip... Nope, my other car is a Mazda Rx-7 I have a factory 2-way Limited slip in it, to drift? No, so I dont start a one tire fire half way through a corner.

On a 240 and an Rx7 the transmission is bolted to the engine and the differential is in the rear of the car. The MR2 uses the SAME TRANSAXLE AS THE FRONT WHEEL DRIVE COROLLA! IT IS A TRANSAXLE! THE DIFFERENTIAL IS INSIDE THE TRANSMISSION CASE YOU NOOB!

EDIT ::

I DID NOT SAY THE MR2 CANT DRIFT! LEARN TO READ!

LokiRx7 · 07-22-2009, 06:07 PM

87-89 COROLLA / MR2 MT TRANSMISSION W/INSTALL ( $550 ):eBay Motors (item 130320356775 end time Aug-01-09 09:32:14 PDT)

In case you STILL dont beleive me. The large bulge that the axles bolt onto, or slide into, houses the differential.

You also dont just want "gears" you want an LSD unit, which happens to have a ring and pinion gear inside of it. I have on numerous occasions found myself in an MR2 sideways, I dont think a 2 way will make it any easier to initiate. The cars balance makes that easy enough. Unless you have a 4A-GZE or a V-6 I dont think its worthwhile.

MR JAS · 07-22-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

um yes i do need a 2.0 way or 1.5... the diff and tranny are two different thins... I have been sliding my AW11 for about a year straight now... "achiveving" incredible angle... if i wanted to conform to the rest of dead fish going with the flow i would have bought a 240... thanks for the help LokiRx7... people weld there diff for rally on the MR2s as well for drift... i guess u would rather buy one for a grand instead of recycleing good parts.. i Know u can use a BMW gears in the aw11 but witch one... if u cant drift too bad leave it to the pros... look for MDMA ull see me... sorry for the harsh sayings... just don't try to tell me what i cant do sir... if u can make an 800 hp LS1 powered Prelude u can drift an MR2... If u can drift a Smart Car then u Can drift an mr2.. if the MR2 is feathered in the Drift bible then u can drift an AW11...

Capt.EverGreen

in b4 ****fight

328FTW · 07-22-2009, 06:24 PM

I ran a locker in my mr2 for loose surface. It made the car bog a lot more rather than getting one wheel going. It wasn't any easier to slide it just got better traction and therefore the engine revs dropped quick if I was really sideways, one meeting I couldn't be bothered changing the box for a tarmac meet and ran it locked on a road course and it handled the near the same as before just I couldn't turn around tightly at the end

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in b4 ****fight

lol

LokiRx7 · 07-22-2009, 06:28 PM

I found the MDMA he told us to look up, and it explains his post lol,

MDMA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

328FTW · 07-22-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LokiRx7

I found the MDMA he told us to look up, and it explains his post lol,

MDMA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did you not notice the avatar? lol wat? Now I'm confused whats with all the drug references

Jackstand Queen · 07-22-2009, 08:01 PM

The inference must be that the drug MDMA enhances drift style driving.

Drifting seems so juvenile to me. Remember all the small children you've seen yelling "Look at me! . . Look at me!". Drifting is not racing, its grandstanding.

Capt.Evergreen · 07-23-2009, 09:42 PM

Cool guys... MDMA, Marietta Drift Mechanic Assosiation... Thanks for trying... I'm not posting to talk sh it.... Thanks though aparently I love the attention.... The pic of LSD shows I'm openminded... Not a drug addict... Sorry uve never experianced spirituality... And I'm srry uve probly been force feed ******** by ur parents that never grew up in a time like these.... Still not trying to talk ****.... A 2.0 way isntjust for slideing.... It locks both tires on accleration and deccel.... Used for more advansed driveing on road corsses... Thank u all for posting... And know that anyone can have an opinon, that's why life is good... Have fun raceing, I go sideways when I race... If I really wanted to grip I would have stayed frunt wheel.... In a rasta stand point I love all of u like brothers.

328FTW · 07-23-2009, 10:08 PM

You really don't need a 2 way unless your throttle inputs are crazy as hell and you are on/off the throttle through corners spiratically. A 1.5 (or even a 1 way) is fine for road racing and getting good times. The reason I ran a locker is it was loose surface racing and sliding and crazy throttle inputs were the name of the game. Tarmac you shouldn't leap off the throttle suddenly in a 2 even with a 2way, it will just not do nice things for you unless you are hauling up under brakes, the 2 requires a different style of driving than your standard setup.

It also takes quite a bit of horsepower to effectively use an LSD anyway, if I put one in my n/a 4age racecar I would be hard pressed to make a difference that I couldn't using suspension setup and if I put the money from getting an LSD into suspension and slicks I would go a lot quicker. I can see a 2 way making it harder to pinch one rear under brakes but otherwise I seriously don't think its needed. It will help launching but you don't need a 2 way for that plus good tyres would also make up that difference.

At the moment I am near the top of my class in my 3sge mkI and it runs an open diff on gravel and I am still turning out awesome times and I'm not unhappy with how it handles trailing off the throttle or on it.

MR JAS · 07-23-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

Sorry uve never experianced spirituality...

is that what they call being high now days

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Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

And I'm srry uve probly been force feed ******** by ur parents that never grew up in a time like these....

Sounds like a hippy to me...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

Used for more advansed driveing on road corsses...
I go sideways when I race...

ever heard the saying smooth is fast.... its true

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Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

If I really wanted to grip I would have stayed frunt wheel....

WTF i dont know where you get that from

328FTW · 07-23-2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR JAS

ever heard the saying smooth is fast.... its true

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

If I really wanted to grip I would have stayed frunt wheel.... In a rasta stand point I love all of u like brothers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR JAS

WTF i dont know where you get that from

Yes and yes, 20 internets for MR JAS

LokiRx7 · 07-23-2009, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

If I really wanted to grip I would have stayed frunt wheel.....

Wow, please dont ever say that again. You obviously dont know much about grip.

And, uh no never experienced 'spirituality'.... I didnt feel like wasting money and life on it. And I dont like needlessly killing brain cells, lest I start posting rants with half the words misspelled.

That said you were the one who dismissed me like an idiot after I gave you factual information. And then went onto a 'spirtually' induced rant on how I said MR2's cant drift.

Drifters use a 2 way to make sure both rear wheels are spinning during a drift, therefore giving crazy angles, and in higher horsepower cars it can make for easier initiations in corners.

In grip a 2 way isnt needed unless you have alot of torque and/or horsepower, without LSD it can cause the tire with the least traction in a corner to spin. Thereby losing traction, and slowing you down. You can drive an MK1 on about any style circuit no matter how advanced and you wont encounter a situation where a 2-way would give you a benefit. (At least not one that could offset the cost) You also said something about welding the diff in an MK1, in my opinion, that will make the car VERY unpredictable in corners on pavement.

Sh0ty · 07-24-2009, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt.Evergreen

Have fun raceing, I go sideways when I race... If I really wanted to grip I would have stayed frunt wheel....

Of course, that's why Formula 1 cars are front wheel drive, for that mad grip. The MR2 doesn't produce the power you need to make good use of a 2 way diff. Also, grammar, punctuation and spelling will set you free, better than dropping acid anyway. And don't think I'm "close minded", I've tried most of it and I can tell you, it's not spiritual, it's hallucinogenic. Try going clean, I think you'll be a lot happier.

MR JAS · 07-24-2009, 02:32 AM

i found spirituality ... at the bottom of an av gas barrel (leaded fuel ftw)

you can have 328ftw's diff it gives equal power to both wheels problem is thats no power
(spider gears ftl)
(leaving his car on my lawn ftmfl)
(stealing his leather interior priceless)

328FTW · 07-24-2009, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR JAS

i found spirituality ... at the bottom of an av gas barrel (leaded fuel ftw)

you can have 328ftw's diff it gives equal power to both wheels problem is thats no power
(spider gears ftl)
(leaving his car on my lawn ftmfl)
(stealing his leather interior priceless)

It still has a couple teeth left I got it most of the way up the driveway after jacking it up and finding them...... until I turned and it spun the smooth gears

, then I got 2 people walking through to help push and got it parked up top. I'm tempted to drop the clutch and blow the remaining teeth off it

I must say I got a little satisfaction blowing those teeth off dropping the clutch when you were there..........you would have done the same thing

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Capt.Evergreen Cage Fighter Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 106 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Differentals so whats an interchangeable diff that is same in size..? uum I heard of swaping the gears from a BMW,, but wich one... um if anybody was ever intersted and ever tryed this... my Nissan buddys will swap diffs from the J30,,, but thats houseing and all.. we would just need the Gears... lets have some fun... or summit has diffs for around 400... i could just take mine down there and match it up with another... thanks a lot.. Capt. EverGreen

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07-18-2009, 05:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
328FTW 3vzfe tinkering Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,536 Thanks: 12 Thanked 99 Times in 83 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Depends what you want to achieve, closer ratios, higher ratios or just replace the ones you have. I'm pretty happy with the c50 ratios for what I do they are a bit high for the n/a to fully exploit but the z motor overcomes that. There is the c52 as well its ratios are different, and the c60 6spd which can be adapted. .....Or just go 2L and use an E series with lsd

07-19-2009, 01:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Capt.Evergreen Cage Fighter Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 106 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Ya I don't want to change trannys just the diff... I want a 2.0 way or at least 1.5

07-22-2009, 04:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
Capt.Evergreen Cage Fighter Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 106 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	um yes i do need a 2.0 way or 1.5... the diff and tranny are two different thins... I have been sliding my AW11 for about a year straight now... "achiveving" incredible angle... if i wanted to conform to the rest of dead fish going with the flow i would have bought a 240... thanks for the help LokiRx7... people weld there diff for rally on the MR2s as well for drift... i guess u would rather buy one for a grand instead of recycleing good parts.. i Know u can use a BMW gears in the aw11 but witch one... if u cant drift too bad leave it to the pros... look for MDMA ull see me... sorry for the harsh sayings... just don't try to tell me what i cant do sir... if u can make an 800 hp LS1 powered Prelude u can drift an MR2... If u can drift a Smart Car then u Can drift an mr2.. if the MR2 is feathered in the Drift bible then u can drift an AW11... Capt.EverGreen

07-22-2009, 06:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
LokiRx7 MR2 + Flat Black = FAIL Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N.C. Ohio Posts: 315 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	87-89 COROLLA / MR2 MT TRANSMISSION W/INSTALL ( $550 ):eBay Motors (item 130320356775 end time Aug-01-09 09:32:14 PDT) In case you STILL dont beleive me. The large bulge that the axles bolt onto, or slide into, houses the differential. You also dont just want "gears" you want an LSD unit, which happens to have a ring and pinion gear inside of it. I have on numerous occasions found myself in an MR2 sideways, I dont think a 2 way will make it any easier to initiate. The cars balance makes that easy enough. Unless you have a 4A-GZE or a V-6 I dont think its worthwhile.

07-22-2009, 06:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
LokiRx7 MR2 + Flat Black = FAIL Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N.C. Ohio Posts: 315 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I found the MDMA he told us to look up, and it explains his post lol, MDMA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Jackstand Queen Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 677 Thanks: 52 Thanked 56 Times in 53 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	The inference must be that the drug MDMA enhances drift style driving. Drifting seems so juvenile to me. Remember all the small children you've seen yelling "Look at me! . . Look at me!". Drifting is not racing, its grandstanding.

07-23-2009, 09:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
Capt.Evergreen Cage Fighter Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 106 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Cool guys... MDMA, Marietta Drift Mechanic Assosiation... Thanks for trying... I'm not posting to talk sh it.... Thanks though aparently I love the attention.... The pic of LSD shows I'm openminded... Not a drug addict... Sorry uve never experianced spirituality... And I'm srry uve probly been force feed ****** by ur parents that never grew up in a time like these.... Still not trying to talk **.... A 2.0 way isntjust for slideing.... It locks both tires on accleration and deccel.... Used for more advansed driveing on road corsses... Thank u all for posting... And know that anyone can have an opinon, that's why life is good... Have fun raceing, I go sideways when I race... If I really wanted to grip I would have stayed frunt wheel.... In a rasta stand point I love all of u like brothers.

07-23-2009, 10:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
328FTW 3vzfe tinkering Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,536 Thanks: 12 Thanked 99 Times in 83 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	You really don't need a 2 way unless your throttle inputs are crazy as hell and you are on/off the throttle through corners spiratically. A 1.5 (or even a 1 way) is fine for road racing and getting good times. The reason I ran a locker is it was loose surface racing and sliding and crazy throttle inputs were the name of the game. Tarmac you shouldn't leap off the throttle suddenly in a 2 even with a 2way, it will just not do nice things for you unless you are hauling up under brakes, the 2 requires a different style of driving than your standard setup. It also takes quite a bit of horsepower to effectively use an LSD anyway, if I put one in my n/a 4age racecar I would be hard pressed to make a difference that I couldn't using suspension setup and if I put the money from getting an LSD into suspension and slicks I would go a lot quicker. I can see a 2 way making it harder to pinch one rear under brakes but otherwise I seriously don't think its needed. It will help launching but you don't need a 2 way for that plus good tyres would also make up that difference. At the moment I am near the top of my class in my 3sge mkI and it runs an open diff on gravel and I am still turning out awesome times and I'm not unhappy with how it handles trailing off the throttle or on it.

07-24-2009, 02:32 AM	#19 (permalink)
MR JAS alfa 155 v6 manual>>> mr2 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: hamilton new zealand Posts: 356 Thanks: 7 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i found spirituality ... at the bottom of an av gas barrel (leaded fuel ftw) you can have 328ftw's diff it gives equal power to both wheels problem is thats no power (spider gears ftl) (leaving his car on my lawn ftmfl) (stealing his leather interior priceless)