Best clutch for a stock 5S-FE?

Medusa · 08-29-2009, 12:15 AM

I will need a new clutch soon, and I am just wondering what kinds of experiences people have had with various clutches.

I'd like to know what you paid and where you got it/who you got it through. Obviously, streetability/engagement harshness are a factor, but I'm a young kid. I'm more than willing to have a chattering clutch with better performance, rather than a smooth engaging clutch that slips a little bit more.

fvillota · 08-29-2009, 10:54 AM

well.. this year i have gone through 3 clutch all because of crazy **** that happens with each one.

i have a stage 3 pressure plate and a stage 4 4puck unsprung act disk on my car now with a Toyota throw out and i think it doesn't get better then that.
even though some times it make a funny noise lol

my 1st clutch was exedy oem 140 bucks
i this is awesome and i would buy from again!
reason it got replaced was because the flywheel bolts broke on me and i had to replace the assembly.

2nd clutch was the F1 stage 3 from grip force. 160bucks
2 months!
the springs fell out of the clutch and i didn't even get to punch the gas for 500 miles.
told them. they said they couldn't do jack about it but they would give me another but unsprung for the same price.

the setup i have nope chatters when warm but only 1st and reverse.
if your good enough you can walk it with no chatter.
other then that its great and grips awesome!
just a lil more expensive. just the disk was 120, and the pressure plate was about 2 something

Medusa · 08-29-2009, 03:45 PM

What kinds of mods do you have on your car, also?

EDIT: I looked on the ACT site, and they sell ZERO pressure plates for a 5S-FE. And only race disks, no street disks. I think I could do the race disc, but obviously with no pressure place there are problems.

Medusa · 08-29-2009, 06:44 PM

Medusa · 08-29-2009, 07:34 PM

MOTHER****ING BUMP

This is kinda serious, I need a clutch real soon.

328FTW · 08-29-2009, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa

I don't really care about chatter, I'm more than willing to give up a mild-mannered clutch for one that grabs really well.

You might want to go with an unsprung ACT or something since chatter is not so much an issue. With repeated hard launches springs have a tendency to go ping sometimes, I had one do it and that was the end of that day....and clutch.

fvillota · 08-29-2009, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa

MOTHER****ING BUMP

This is kinda serious, I need a clutch real soon.

take it easy man. you know we dont sit infront of a computer all day.
i have to eat, ****, party, drink, **** some more and sleep n so on.

anyways.. you didnt look hard enough because act make s a stage 3 pressure plate for the 5sfe

i have headers, no cat
cold air
advanced timing
no egr

thats all performance or motor wize.
i have the clutch set up i have now because im working on turbo

Medusa · 08-29-2009, 09:22 PM

Well I'm on the ACT site right now and they show ZERO pressure plates for a 5S-FE. Only a few discs, a bearing, and an alignment tool.

I'm going on the assumption that their site will have relatively up to date info.

@328FTW - I was hoping to go unsprung, but the only ones I've found are a clutchmasters unsprung ceramic that claims 200 to 400% increased holding capacity, for $340. Which leads me to believe it will have a ridiculously stiff pedal. All the other clutch companies I can think of only have an OEM organic sprung replacement kit.

Gairloch · 08-29-2009, 09:27 PM

Why would you want a higher pressure clutch for a 5sfe? In my opinion the clutch should always be the weakest part of the driveline. You definitely want the clutch to slip before you blow out the differential. Personally I wouldn't go any further than the Exedy.

fvillota · 08-29-2009, 09:41 PM

i checked it out and im guessing they are doing some changes because they added all those disks n took the pressure plates off

Medusa · 08-29-2009, 10:27 PM

@ Gairloch - I'm not trying to get a full blown race clutch or anything, but I don't care if it is stiffer than stock is all I'm saying. I am planning on some mild upgrades soon, but I doubt I'll be turbo-ing it. If I want big power I'll swap in a 2GR.

@fvillota - I didn't mean to sound accusatory, I apologize. Yeah, I just remembered that a few months back they used to have a pressure plate for it too. But not anymore...

Gairloch · 08-29-2009, 10:32 PM

I'd stick with the exedy in that case. Until you do something like add FI to the motor you won't need more than stock clamping force.

fvillota · 08-29-2009, 10:39 PM

lol its ok man..
anyway ways.. if you not gonna turbo get exedy oem.
i recommend then.
they are cheap and awesome.
very confortable clutch and grips great!

Medusa · 08-29-2009, 10:40 PM

That's what I planning.

Damn. Seems like everybody hates the 5S, there is so little selection for it.

fvillota · 08-29-2009, 10:42 PM

haha yea.. just doesn't have a bog name under the performance category

Medusa · 08-29-2009, 10:44 PM

It sucks, but it's the truth. No normal 4 cylinder will ever have really high HP/torque, without going FI.

08-29-2009, 12:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
Medusa Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 623 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Best clutch for a stock 5S-FE? I will need a new clutch soon, and I am just wondering what kinds of experiences people have had with various clutches. I'd like to know what you paid and where you got it/who you got it through. Obviously, streetability/engagement harshness are a factor, but I'm a young kid. I'm more than willing to have a chattering clutch with better performance, rather than a smooth engaging clutch that slips a little bit more.

08-29-2009, 09:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 4,848 Thanks: 125 Thanked 258 Times in 228 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Why would you want a higher pressure clutch for a 5sfe? In my opinion the clutch should always be the weakest part of the driveline. You definitely want the clutch to slip before you blow out the differential. Personally I wouldn't go any further than the Exedy. __________________ "Inside the car, the world beyond the driver's immediate horizon ceases to exist. Alone with the solitude of his desire, survival sense numbed by the speed, he's outrun the mediocrity of the outside world, slipped the shackles it tries to clamp on us all. He is running free, chased only by a fear of failure, for failure is to risk ejection into the real world." ~Mark Hughes

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08-29-2009, 10:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
fvillota Cage Fighter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MIami Posts: 1,830 Thanks: 65 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	well.. this year i have gone through 3 clutch all because of crazy **** that happens with each one. i have a stage 3 pressure plate and a stage 4 4puck unsprung act disk on my car now with a Toyota throw out and i think it doesn't get better then that. even though some times it make a funny noise lol my 1st clutch was exedy oem 140 bucks i this is awesome and i would buy from again! reason it got replaced was because the flywheel bolts broke on me and i had to replace the assembly. 2nd clutch was the F1 stage 3 from grip force. 160bucks 2 months! the springs fell out of the clutch and i didn't even get to punch the gas for 500 miles. told them. they said they couldn't do jack about it but they would give me another but unsprung for the same price. the setup i have nope chatters when warm but only 1st and reverse. if your good enough you can walk it with no chatter. other then that its great and grips awesome! just a lil more expensive. just the disk was 120, and the pressure plate was about 2 something

08-29-2009, 03:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Medusa Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 623 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	What kinds of mods do you have on your car, also? EDIT: I looked on the ACT site, and they sell ZERO pressure plates for a 5S-FE. And only race disks, no street disks. I think I could do the race disc, but obviously with no pressure place there are problems.

08-29-2009, 06:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Medusa Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 623 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	BUMP

08-29-2009, 07:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
Medusa Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 623 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	MOTHER****ING BUMP This is kinda serious, I need a clutch real soon.

08-29-2009, 09:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
Medusa Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 623 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Well I'm on the ACT site right now and they show ZERO pressure plates for a 5S-FE. Only a few discs, a bearing, and an alignment tool. I'm going on the assumption that their site will have relatively up to date info. @328FTW - I was hoping to go unsprung, but the only ones I've found are a clutchmasters unsprung ceramic that claims 200 to 400% increased holding capacity, for $340. Which leads me to believe it will have a ridiculously stiff pedal. All the other clutch companies I can think of only have an OEM organic sprung replacement kit.

08-29-2009, 09:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
fvillota Cage Fighter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MIami Posts: 1,830 Thanks: 65 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	i checked it out and im guessing they are doing some changes because they added all those disks n took the pressure plates off

08-29-2009, 10:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Medusa Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 623 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	@ Gairloch - I'm not trying to get a full blown race clutch or anything, but I don't care if it is stiffer than stock is all I'm saying. I am planning on some mild upgrades soon, but I doubt I'll be turbo-ing it. If I want big power I'll swap in a 2GR. @fvillota - I didn't mean to sound accusatory, I apologize. Yeah, I just remembered that a few months back they used to have a pressure plate for it too. But not anymore...

08-29-2009, 10:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 4,848 Thanks: 125 Thanked 258 Times in 228 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	I'd stick with the exedy in that case. Until you do something like add FI to the motor you won't need more than stock clamping force.

08-29-2009, 10:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
fvillota Cage Fighter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MIami Posts: 1,830 Thanks: 65 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	lol its ok man.. anyway ways.. if you not gonna turbo get exedy oem. i recommend then. they are cheap and awesome. very confortable clutch and grips great!

08-29-2009, 10:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
Medusa Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 623 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	That's what I planning. Damn. Seems like everybody hates the 5S, there is so little selection for it.

08-29-2009, 10:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
fvillota Cage Fighter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MIami Posts: 1,830 Thanks: 65 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	haha yea.. just doesn't have a bog name under the performance category

08-29-2009, 10:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
Medusa Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 623 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	It sucks, but it's the truth. No normal 4 cylinder will ever have really high HP/torque, without going FI.