Why not the 5SFE? - Page 2

Mister2.2 · 05-10-2006, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Weasy2k

Regrinds are fine...dont trust welded ones as they last 60k vs regrinds...for life of the original cam...

What makes you say they only last for 60K, do you have some data / proof of this?

TomsMR2 · 05-10-2006, 12:23 AM

this whole thread is just all over the place.. jeez.

the only reason it hasnt been done is because theres a lack of a market. thats it. nothing else.

TRD-CEO · 05-10-2006, 12:25 AM

sorry i posted it in the wrong spot. Very tired...just got home from 2nd job...been up since 6:30 when I dropped the car off to be aligned after replacing the rear axles and steering rack. Both of which were a royal pain in the *** to find in stock anywhere. If anyone needs one I can tell you the company I am sending mine to so you can have first dibs on the rebuilt one.

TRD-CEO · 05-10-2006, 12:25 AM

sorry. we are all high...just kidding...we thought we were in an open forem...hahahaha.

TRD-CEO · 05-10-2006, 12:29 AM

What does Node charge for the conversion? Made $23K this month and might be ready in a few months. Gotta pay that Titan off first.

Mister2.2 · 05-10-2006, 12:34 AM

You made 23K in one month? Mind if I ask doing what?

TRD-CEO · 05-10-2006, 12:37 AM

Sell real estate. Busy month last month and this month. Sold everything I had and several others to some buyers I was working with. I need to get some more signs in peoples yards now that I have none. Gotta keep marketing in this business

TRD-CEO · 05-10-2006, 12:39 AM

Off the subject here, but then agian someones already said that. Have you got a larger pic or jpeg of your orange MR2 there. Sweet wing I'd like to get a closer look.

BRAUVIC · 05-10-2006, 02:14 AM

This is what makes sense to me. Why not have one that is an Eaton type rather than a centrifugal or turbo. Yes I know their isn't a market because it would be impractical. But how nice would it be to have one with the S/C. I wouldn't even try to get a huge record out of the power because I can not see the 5SFE doing that. I would like to see atleast 250-300 out of this type of setup. If it turns out with more then hey who can complain about more power. Here is something I found about the 5SFE along with the whole band of FE engines that toyota produces. Its a good read. http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20...%20Engines.htm My big question is this. Is the blower not an option?

Weasy2k · 05-10-2006, 02:15 AM

WEbcams is fine...what is the link to thier cams anyway...i never can find it...

then again i didnt look too hard..

BRAUVIC · 05-10-2006, 02:19 AM

The pic I have is from the net. I just thought it was one of the cleanest bodykits for the 2 I have seen in a while. Aside from the Veilside and the 2000GT that Toyota makes. I don't even know if this kit is real, it sure looks good. Here, I'll post pics of it.

jerzefigga · 05-10-2006, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRAUVIC

The pic I have is from the net. I just thought it was one of the cleanest bodykits for the 2 I have seen in a while. Aside from the Veilside and the 2000GT that Toyota makes. I don't even know if this kit is real, it sure looks good. Here, I'll post pics of it.

that was computer generated

BRAUVIC · 05-10-2006, 02:28 AM

I kind of thought so, but you have to admit that it is definitly nice.

Weasy2k · 05-10-2006, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister2.2

What makes you say they only last for 60K, do you have some data / proof of this?

its everywhere...the 1uz guys mention this problem a lot...the cam starts to wear.

Think of this.

the stock cam is made from hardened and treated metal

rewelding them larger then grinding them to new profile is just a basic metal it will wear away quicker. You can harden each cam if you want..then your paying more for a bit extra life...

Weasy2k · 05-10-2006, 02:33 AM

what theh hell thread is this...im so lost now...

contact node for rates...

it depends greatly on the engine and power you want and how fast you want it done.
Brad is in the south im in the west and node is in the east...there are others here and there but i dont know if they are doing it for a living/job.

BRAUVIC · 05-10-2006, 02:44 AM

What brought this on was that when I was rebuilding the 5S in my garage I remembered seeing the Prelude H22 with a blower. I asked that company if it could be done with the 5S and they told me it couldn't be done and good luck trying. I didn't find it a very professional response from a company like them.

Weasy2k · 05-10-2006, 03:27 AM

there isnt many out there that is professional....

The 5s isnt popular...thasts why i like working with them...i gotta finds a dmeo car to pimp zee auto engine out and devleop products

BRAUVIC · 05-10-2006, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister2.2

You wont get 300HP from the 5SFE without boost. You can boost it but you need a EMS a good tune and you need to replace the pistons / rods.

Forget 30 over on the bore or you will be blowing HGs I think 20 is pushing it from what I remember. What new crank are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with the stock crank, it's as strong or stronger than the 3S.

As far as bolt ons there Headers / Intake / Exhaust. You can make your own intake or wait for mine to come out, there's Headers on Ebay and theres a few exhaust systems like the NATKO.

You can reach about 220hp or so if you do:

98+ camry Oil Pump
ITBs
4-2-1 Header
Cams
11.5:1 pistons
Rods
Lightened flywheel
Exhaust
Port and Polish
Injectors
Fuel Pump
EMS + Tune

May be forgetting a few things but that should get you up there, be prepared to spend around 4-5K doing it YOURSELF... this is why nobody really invests much into the 5S although I think it would be a fun motor.

This seems like a lot more power than it should. Has anyone gotten this much out of this engine with out Nitro or Turbo? I think the record is like 157. I have another 5S in my garage.

Weasy2k · 05-10-2006, 01:55 PM

157?
i doubt it all that would give you mroe then 200

Mister2.2 · 05-10-2006, 02:04 PM

I did not say 220WHP. My dyno programs came up with 240 actually but I doubt it would get that high. Remember the record did not have ITBs and only one aftermarket cam.

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BRAUVIC I dream about 2's Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	The pic I have is from the net. I just thought it was one of the cleanest bodykits for the 2 I have seen in a while. Aside from the Veilside and the 2000GT that Toyota makes. I don't even know if this kit is real, it sure looks good. Here, I'll post pics of it. Attached Thumbnails

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05-10-2006, 12:23 AM	#22 (permalink)
TomsMR2 Formerly Tom Brokaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deleted Posts: 2,746 Thanks: 9 Thanked 260 Times in 183 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	this whole thread is just all over the place.. jeez. the only reason it hasnt been done is because theres a lack of a market. thats it. nothing else.

05-10-2006, 12:25 AM	#23 (permalink)
TRD-CEO Need a home? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte Posts: 205 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	sorry i posted it in the wrong spot. Very tired...just got home from 2nd job...been up since 6:30 when I dropped the car off to be aligned after replacing the rear axles and steering rack. Both of which were a royal pain in the *** to find in stock anywhere. If anyone needs one I can tell you the company I am sending mine to so you can have first dibs on the rebuilt one.

05-10-2006, 12:25 AM	#24 (permalink)
TRD-CEO Need a home? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte Posts: 205 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	sorry. we are all high...just kidding...we thought we were in an open forem...hahahaha.

05-10-2006, 12:29 AM	#25 (permalink)
TRD-CEO Need a home? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte Posts: 205 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	What does Node charge for the conversion? Made $23K this month and might be ready in a few months. Gotta pay that Titan off first.

05-10-2006, 12:34 AM	#26 (permalink)
Mister2.2 Cheese it! Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,356 Thanks: 113 Thanked 111 Times in 96 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	You made 23K in one month? Mind if I ask doing what?

05-10-2006, 12:37 AM	#27 (permalink)
TRD-CEO Need a home? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte Posts: 205 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Sell real estate. Busy month last month and this month. Sold everything I had and several others to some buyers I was working with. I need to get some more signs in peoples yards now that I have none. Gotta keep marketing in this business

05-10-2006, 12:39 AM	#28 (permalink)
TRD-CEO Need a home? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte Posts: 205 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Off the subject here, but then agian someones already said that. Have you got a larger pic or jpeg of your orange MR2 there. Sweet wing I'd like to get a closer look.

05-10-2006, 02:14 AM	#29 (permalink)
BRAUVIC I dream about 2's Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	This is what makes sense to me. Why not have one that is an Eaton type rather than a centrifugal or turbo. Yes I know their isn't a market because it would be impractical. But how nice would it be to have one with the S/C. I wouldn't even try to get a huge record out of the power because I can not see the 5SFE doing that. I would like to see atleast 250-300 out of this type of setup. If it turns out with more then hey who can complain about more power. Here is something I found about the 5SFE along with the whole band of FE engines that toyota produces. Its a good read. http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20...%20Engines.htm My big question is this. Is the blower not an option?

05-10-2006, 02:28 AM	#33 (permalink)
BRAUVIC I dream about 2's Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I kind of thought so, but you have to admit that it is definitly nice.

05-10-2006, 02:33 AM	#35 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,895 Thanks: 34 Thanked 82 Times in 67 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	what theh hell thread is this...im so lost now... contact node for rates... it depends greatly on the engine and power you want and how fast you want it done. Brad is in the south im in the west and node is in the east...there are others here and there but i dont know if they are doing it for a living/job.

05-10-2006, 02:44 AM	#36 (permalink)
BRAUVIC I dream about 2's Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	What brought this on was that when I was rebuilding the 5S in my garage I remembered seeing the Prelude H22 with a blower. I asked that company if it could be done with the 5S and they told me it couldn't be done and good luck trying. I didn't find it a very professional response from a company like them.

05-10-2006, 03:27 AM	#37 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,895 Thanks: 34 Thanked 82 Times in 67 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	there isnt many out there that is professional.... The 5s isnt popular...thasts why i like working with them...i gotta finds a dmeo car to pimp zee auto engine out and devleop products

05-10-2006, 01:55 PM	#39 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,895 Thanks: 34 Thanked 82 Times in 67 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	157? i doubt it all that would give you mroe then 200

05-10-2006, 02:04 PM	#40 (permalink)
Mister2.2 Cheese it! Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,356 Thanks: 113 Thanked 111 Times in 96 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	I did not say 220WHP. My dyno programs came up with 240 actually but I doubt it would get that high. Remember the record did not have ITBs and only one aftermarket cam.