what exactly needed for brake swap

91mr2n702 · 01-26-2007, 03:15 PM

Hi everyone,

I drive my little 91na a lot. I have recently put autoboner pads on the back, but one of my rotors was chewed to hell.

My question is what EXACTLY is needed to upgrade to the 91-93 turbo brake set up. Also, if possible the 94-up brake setup.

Can I purchase just the master cylinder & calipers from autoboner(autozone)?

Will I need caliper brackets or proportioning valve from a turbo mr2?

Are the hubs from a turbo needed (I know the wheel bearing is the same but sometimes caliper bracket mounting points are different)

Please help if you have done this swap before.

I am going to have to get rotors and pads soon. If I have to I will go with stock brembo rotors and ebc pads(if they have them for the nonturbos)

THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP

91mr2n702 · 01-27-2007, 06:36 PM

Ok I decided to do some research myself....

94-up turbos have 10.8in front rotors and 11.1in rears .9729729729 ratio

91-95 nas have 10.2 and 10.4in rotors .98076923 ratio front to rear

I also found a place that sells centric rebuilt calipers with new caliper pins and mounting brackets included-- so if these will fit a na hub then Im golden! I can just buy the calipers/brackets rotors and pads and bolt it up.

master cylinders are easy enough to get and install.

I can get a proportioning valve too, eventually. not a big deal w/less than 1% difference.

OH crap. I am forgetting one thing. Will my little wheels fit?? prolly not.

deltaf · 02-03-2007, 10:06 PM

What is the name of this place that you found with the brakes?

Gairloch · 02-03-2007, 11:10 PM

The proportioning valve might make more of a difference than you'd expect. If you leave the NA valve in place then the rear tires will lock up before the fronts when threshold braking.

danzel10 · 02-10-2007, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91mr2n702

Hi everyone,

I drive my little 91na a lot. I have recently put autoboner pads on the back, but one of my rotors was chewed to hell.

My question is what EXACTLY is needed to upgrade to the 91-93 turbo brake set up. Also, if possible the 94-up brake setup.

Can I purchase just the master cylinder & calipers from autoboner(autozone)?

Will I need caliper brackets or proportioning valve from a turbo mr2?

Are the hubs from a turbo needed (I know the wheel bearing is the same but sometimes caliper bracket mounting points are different)

Please help if you have done this swap before.

I am going to have to get rotors and pads soon. If I have to I will go with stock brembo rotors and ebc pads(if they have them for the nonturbos)

THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP

have a guide of your car manual in repairing or replacing some parts of the vehicles..it is very helpful tool when it comes to technical information..or contact a car ethusiasts for your active brakes direct swapping.

Mr2crazybyong · 02-10-2007, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91mr2n702

Ok I decided to do some research myself....

94-up turbos have 10.8in front rotors and 11.1in rears .9729729729 ratio

91-95 nas have 10.2 and 10.4in rotors .98076923 ratio front to rear

What?!

i dont think the rear rotors are bigger than the front. fronts should be bigger than the rear since they carry most of the weight of the car when braking.

91mr2n702 · 02-11-2007, 07:25 PM

rears are bigger than fronts. we have a lot more weight in the rear

the company is meyer's western auto parts, but any centric brand calipers can be ordered w/brackets

i've decided to stick w/na brakes and get a late model turbo master cylinder....save money for swap

I just had a strut mount go bad so there goes an extra 55 for kyb mount

91mr2n702 · 02-21-2007, 12:24 PM

UPDATE: found turbo non-abs master cylinder for 64.99 lifetime warranty at autozone.com

UPDATE: I have the cash for a 3sgte swap, I think I will order sometime this week. I wish I had the cash for a halfcut

Gairloch · 02-21-2007, 02:17 PM

If you don't have the cash for a clip are you sure that you've got the cash for all the bits that you need out of one? Usually it's more expensive to buy them all piecemeal.

91mr2n702 · 02-21-2007, 10:30 PM

93 2 swap w/lsd 1400 +shipping
gen2 half cut 2400+shipping

you would be surprised what i can do with a thousand bucks

I should only need shifter cables, cv axles, and fuel pump

and I will need a wiring diagram--Ive seen a cd on ebay for 3 bucks I dont know how good it is though

I dont know maybe im fooling myself but I called the engine importer and they said it would come with afm, ecu, harness, igniter

There is one junkyard with a couple picked over mr2s and I can always buy from chico or ats. At this point I am tired of driving a slow-ass na

I have done a vtec+obd0to1 motor swap in a civic and rebuilt an integra motor and I also have a friend who swapped in a 4g63 in his CRX who can help me

Trust me I will let everyone know how its going

TomsMR2 · 02-22-2007, 01:29 AM

heh, you're not buying from venus are you? if so, good luck. venus likes to leave parts out, or swap them around, or do weird stuff with their motorsets.

91mr2n702 · 02-23-2007, 12:05 AM

no, not venus - ive never heard of them

I am getting the swap from the same place one of my freinds got the same swap and everthing was there > he said he paid 1200 shipped to Las Vegas.
This was 2 years ago, though, plus I want the lsd tranny

we'll see what happens. I am just pushing the 5sfe at 160000+ miles to its limit. I don't really want to have it break down on me and I dont want to spend the time to rebuild it.

I hope to sell this tranny(shifts good) and some other parts once I get the swap in.

bean · 02-23-2007, 09:40 AM

buy a clip, do the turbo brakes later if you REALLY need them.

91mr2n702 · 02-24-2007, 11:57 AM

I do not have 26-2800 to get a half an mr2 shipped to my house.
I don't have a place to put a half an mr2 in my garage.
The back half of my 2 is almost perfect > I dont want diff taillights or any of the other bs

Like I said I have a friend who did this swap 2 years ago:
It came with all needed parts for the swap, I saw the motor/turbo looked good. I am sure the kid was happy who he swapped it for

I found shifter cables from some guy on the uk ebay for 70$US he also has some cool emblems and wings and stuff from the uk turbo mr2s

I am not worried about the brakes until I get more speed.

01-26-2007, 03:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
91mr2n702 Try me! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vegas Posts: 102 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	what exactly needed for brake swap Hi everyone, I drive my little 91na a lot. I have recently put autoboner pads on the back, but one of my rotors was chewed to hell. My question is what EXACTLY is needed to upgrade to the 91-93 turbo brake set up. Also, if possible the 94-up brake setup. Can I purchase just the master cylinder & calipers from autoboner(autozone)? Will I need caliper brackets or proportioning valve from a turbo mr2? Are the hubs from a turbo needed (I know the wheel bearing is the same but sometimes caliper bracket mounting points are different) Please help if you have done this swap before. I am going to have to get rotors and pads soon. If I have to I will go with stock brembo rotors and ebc pads(if they have them for the nonturbos) THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP

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01-27-2007, 06:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
91mr2n702 Try me! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vegas Posts: 102 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Ok I decided to do some research myself.... 94-up turbos have 10.8in front rotors and 11.1in rears .9729729729 ratio 91-95 nas have 10.2 and 10.4in rotors .98076923 ratio front to rear I also found a place that sells centric rebuilt calipers with new caliper pins and mounting brackets included-- so if these will fit a na hub then Im golden! I can just buy the calipers/brackets rotors and pads and bolt it up. master cylinders are easy enough to get and install. I can get a proportioning valve too, eventually. not a big deal w/less than 1% difference. OH crap. I am forgetting one thing. Will my little wheels fit?? prolly not.

02-03-2007, 10:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
deltaf No Skills Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: atlanta Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	What is the name of this place that you found with the brakes?

02-03-2007, 11:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,313 Thanks: 139 Thanked 296 Times in 264 Posts Blog Entries: 4 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	The proportioning valve might make more of a difference than you'd expect. If you leave the NA valve in place then the rear tires will lock up before the fronts when threshold braking.

02-11-2007, 07:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
91mr2n702 Try me! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vegas Posts: 102 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	rears are bigger than fronts. we have a lot more weight in the rear the company is meyer's western auto parts, but any centric brand calipers can be ordered w/brackets i've decided to stick w/na brakes and get a late model turbo master cylinder....save money for swap I just had a strut mount go bad so there goes an extra 55 for kyb mount

02-21-2007, 12:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
91mr2n702 Try me! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vegas Posts: 102 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	UPDATE: found turbo non-abs master cylinder for 64.99 lifetime warranty at autozone.com UPDATE: I have the cash for a 3sgte swap, I think I will order sometime this week. I wish I had the cash for a halfcut

02-21-2007, 02:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,313 Thanks: 139 Thanked 296 Times in 264 Posts Blog Entries: 4 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	If you don't have the cash for a clip are you sure that you've got the cash for all the bits that you need out of one? Usually it's more expensive to buy them all piecemeal.

02-21-2007, 10:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
91mr2n702 Try me! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vegas Posts: 102 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	93 2 swap w/lsd 1400 +shipping gen2 half cut 2400+shipping you would be surprised what i can do with a thousand bucks I should only need shifter cables, cv axles, and fuel pump and I will need a wiring diagram--Ive seen a cd on ebay for 3 bucks I dont know how good it is though I dont know maybe im fooling myself but I called the engine importer and they said it would come with afm, ecu, harness, igniter There is one junkyard with a couple picked over mr2s and I can always buy from chico or ats. At this point I am tired of driving a slow-ass na I have done a vtec+obd0to1 motor swap in a civic and rebuilt an integra motor and I also have a friend who swapped in a 4g63 in his CRX who can help me Trust me I will let everyone know how its going

02-22-2007, 01:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
TomsMR2 Still not heraldo. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pineapple under the sea Posts: 4,911 Thanks: 18 Thanked 406 Times in 303 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	heh, you're not buying from venus are you? if so, good luck. venus likes to leave parts out, or swap them around, or do weird stuff with their motorsets.

02-23-2007, 12:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
91mr2n702 Try me! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vegas Posts: 102 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	no, not venus - ive never heard of them I am getting the swap from the same place one of my freinds got the same swap and everthing was there > he said he paid 1200 shipped to Las Vegas. This was 2 years ago, though, plus I want the lsd tranny we'll see what happens. I am just pushing the 5sfe at 160000+ miles to its limit. I don't really want to have it break down on me and I dont want to spend the time to rebuild it. I hope to sell this tranny(shifts good) and some other parts once I get the swap in.

02-23-2007, 09:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
bean 91 NA Hardtop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: SC Posts: 531 Thanks: 17 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	buy a clip, do the turbo brakes later if you REALLY need them.

02-24-2007, 11:57 AM	#14 (permalink)
91mr2n702 Try me! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vegas Posts: 102 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I do not have 26-2800 to get a half an mr2 shipped to my house. I don't have a place to put a half an mr2 in my garage. The back half of my 2 is almost perfect > I dont want diff taillights or any of the other bs Like I said I have a friend who did this swap 2 years ago: It came with all needed parts for the swap, I saw the motor/turbo looked good. I am sure the kid was happy who he swapped it for I found shifter cables from some guy on the uk ebay for 70$US he also has some cool emblems and wings and stuff from the uk turbo mr2s I am not worried about the brakes until I get more speed.