93+N/A Vs 93+turbo brakes

John B · 04-27-2007, 04:40 PM

I have herd a lot comparing 91-92 N/A brakes but I haven't herds much about 93+N/A brakes, How are they vs. turbo 91-92 and 93+?

Mister2.2 · 04-27-2007, 04:46 PM

91+ NA brakes are all the same AFAIK. With a good set of pads on my 94 I have all the stopping power I could really ask for, although I do not AutoX my car either.

Gairloch · 04-28-2007, 07:48 PM

Between all of these brake systems you really won't see much of a difference until you start pushing the envelope, which you should never ever be doing on the street.

That being said, the biggest differences between the varients out there is NA = 1 pot with smallest pad and smallest caliper, '93+ turbo brakes = 2 pot with largest pads and largest calipers, '91-'92 turbo = 2 pot with pads and calipers slightly smaller than '93+.

NA to any turbo variant is a significant jump.

John B · 04-28-2007, 07:50 PM

what parts are needed for the swap?

Gairloch · 04-28-2007, 08:01 PM

Depends on how clean you're looking to be. You can do it with just the calipers and a larger (turbo) master cylinder. I'd also strongly recommend the proportioning valve or you'll end up with a rear brake bias.

The dust covers on the NA hubs will be a little small for the turbo brake calipers but this is easily solved with a little bending.

Be aware of the fact that '93+ calipers WILL NOT fit under 14" wheels.

Tyler H · 04-29-2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gairloch

NA to any turbo variant is a significant jump.

+1000 Take advantage of all the 93+ nutswingers and get yourself a cheap set of 92 Turbo front calipers. Take the money you save by not having to replace rotors (the front rotors are the same) and buy a rebuild kit and some good fluid. Call it a day.

TomsMR2 · 04-29-2007, 12:39 AM

you'll need the brackets too.. and probably the prop valve..

you can always play around with different master cylinders too.. has a DRASTIC effect on pedal feel.

Gairloch · 04-29-2007, 06:15 PM

^^ I mentioned the prop valve and the MC :P

I did forget to mention the rotors though. The earlier turbo brakes use the same rotors as the NA brakes.

John B · 04-29-2007, 08:17 PM

I am getting a 97 turbo rear clip so I am half way there just need the front. How different are the rear brakes from my 93 N/A? I have vented/drilled 93 N/A rotors If they are the same I could reuse them.

TomsMR2 · 04-29-2007, 09:12 PM

you should use that as a great opportunity to get rid of the drilled rotors.

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John B Cage Fighter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CT Posts: 215 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	93+N/A Vs 93+turbo brakes I have herd a lot comparing 91-92 N/A brakes but I haven't herds much about 93+N/A brakes, How are they vs. turbo 91-92 and 93+?

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04-28-2007, 07:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,313 Thanks: 139 Thanked 296 Times in 264 Posts Blog Entries: 4 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Between all of these brake systems you really won't see much of a difference until you start pushing the envelope, which you should never ever be doing on the street. That being said, the biggest differences between the varients out there is NA = 1 pot with smallest pad and smallest caliper, '93+ turbo brakes = 2 pot with largest pads and largest calipers, '91-'92 turbo = 2 pot with pads and calipers slightly smaller than '93+. NA to any turbo variant is a significant jump.

04-28-2007, 07:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
John B Cage Fighter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CT Posts: 215 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	what parts are needed for the swap?

04-28-2007, 08:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,313 Thanks: 139 Thanked 296 Times in 264 Posts Blog Entries: 4 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Depends on how clean you're looking to be. You can do it with just the calipers and a larger (turbo) master cylinder. I'd also strongly recommend the proportioning valve or you'll end up with a rear brake bias. The dust covers on the NA hubs will be a little small for the turbo brake calipers but this is easily solved with a little bending. Be aware of the fact that '93+ calipers WILL NOT fit under 14" wheels.

04-29-2007, 12:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
TomsMR2 Still not heraldo. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pineapple under the sea Posts: 4,911 Thanks: 18 Thanked 406 Times in 303 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	you'll need the brackets too.. and probably the prop valve.. you can always play around with different master cylinders too.. has a DRASTIC effect on pedal feel.

04-29-2007, 06:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,313 Thanks: 139 Thanked 296 Times in 264 Posts Blog Entries: 4 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	^^ I mentioned the prop valve and the MC :P I did forget to mention the rotors though. The earlier turbo brakes use the same rotors as the NA brakes.

04-29-2007, 08:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
John B Cage Fighter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CT Posts: 215 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I am getting a 97 turbo rear clip so I am half way there just need the front. How different are the rear brakes from my 93 N/A? I have vented/drilled 93 N/A rotors If they are the same I could reuse them.

04-29-2007, 09:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
TomsMR2 Still not heraldo. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pineapple under the sea Posts: 4,911 Thanks: 18 Thanked 406 Times in 303 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	you should use that as a great opportunity to get rid of the drilled rotors.