how many of you guys get your car to warm up first before you drive it in the morning - Page 2

Bak@EMSPowered · 09-07-2007, 10:17 PM

TomsMR2 is correct on this one... Listen to the man!!!

Lachrymal Cloud · 09-08-2007, 06:08 PM

Has anyone had a similar experience with my situation (post #15) above?

DrWonderEyes · 09-08-2007, 06:20 PM

i let mine run a few mins. it wont drive to well till after it idles one or 2 mins

VeilsideMR2 · 09-08-2007, 06:27 PM

this is a very good question, somethin i myself would want 2 kno.... i think TomsMR2 is right tho, it seems that the best way is to actually drive it right from the start-up instead of idling it....

runabout93 · 09-09-2007, 10:04 AM

I think it's important to realize the necessity of letting the car lubricate before driving. The term "warm up" has hidden the necessity for lubircation. That's the problem with the term "warm up"... it is associated with heat. So, it's not as important to get your engine up to temparature as it is to make sure that the oil in the pan has had time to lubricate all the necessary pieces. The only thing that has to be warmed up before driving is the combustion chamber... which happens really fast.

So, given this... the correct answer might be: Give your car time to circulate the oil after startup. When first driving, do not put your car under heavy load until the car is fully lubricated. Fully lubricated requires it to be at normal running temparature.

Example:
I usually start my car and let it idle for around a minute (+/-). Depending on the outside temp you can actually hear a difference in the engine when the car is sufficiently lubricated. I keep the rpm range under 3,000 until the car is up to temp. Once the temp gauge is reading normal... it is okay to "get on it."

I am not 100% positive... But, I think it actually says this in the owners manual. It says nothing about waiting for the car's temp gauage... but, to simply wait a minute before driving. and maybe something about waiting until the idling has gone down. ??

DrWonderEyes · 09-09-2007, 10:20 AM

a car runs best at normal temperature. after all thats why cars have a thermostat. to get it quickly up to operating temperature.

Lachrymal Cloud · 09-09-2007, 01:45 PM

Do any of your MR2 Turbo's run like an asthmatic fat kid the first 3 minutes or so after ignition?

sleepermr2 · 09-09-2007, 04:59 PM

yea when its really cold outside it doesnt like to run right until i let it idle a bit. it takes a couple minutes till its going good

sleepermr2 · 09-09-2007, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baktasht

TomsMR2 is correct on this one... Listen to the man!!!

i never said he was wrong. i think we are both kinda correct on this one. bottom line is dont go WOT till the car is at normal operating temp.

Sang · 09-09-2007, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lachrymal Cloud

Do any of your MR2 Turbo's run like an asthmatic fat kid the first 3 minutes or so after ignition?

Yeah, mine does...

when somethings broken or old...otherwise no, not when everything is working as it should.

Lachrymal Cloud · 09-09-2007, 07:57 PM

There has got to be something wrong with my car. I live in Arizona so it's like like it needs to warm up from the cold.

TomsMR2 · 09-09-2007, 10:35 PM

.. you shouldnt ask turbo questions in the na section. thats why you're not getting answers.

albertgunit101 · 09-09-2007, 10:43 PM

i am so glad i ask this question coz ever since i learned how to drive i never got any knowledge about warming the engine. all i know is not to drive like crazy when its still idling high and after that, redline time, hehehe. thanks for everybodys input on this.

DrWonderEyes · 09-09-2007, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomsMR2

.. you shouldnt ask turbo questions in the na section. thats why you're not getting answers.

damn straight

Russell the Love Muscle · 09-10-2007, 12:57 AM

I fire it up, pull it out of my garage and boost hard and rev to redline, sometimes past!! But I am building my new motor and trying to blow mine up and its harder than I thought! I'm about ready to cut the wastegate actuator, but once I get the new motor built I will let it run for a few minutes, once the idle is normal!

Lachrymal Cloud · 09-10-2007, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrWonderEyes

damn straight

I get it I guess, just didn't know there even was a segregated NA section.

mr2furious · 09-15-2007, 09:31 PM

everytime i take off after starting it the idle is HORRIBLE! i know i have a bad idle, but if i dont let it warm up then wen i shift gears, for that split second wen i let off the gas the idle goes even higher! its like insted of the idle dropping it raises! so i let it warm up a bit =)

albertgunit101 · 09-15-2007, 11:35 PM

^mine is just like yours before i crashed it. i think its pretty normal, so what i do is i tap the gas and it goes down after that.

RST · 09-18-2007, 08:01 AM

Guys,

Fit an oil temp gauge (right hand gauge in my pic) and you should then know when you're safe to red line it. Personally I never give mine the beans, e.g. >5,00rpm 'till the oils warm -takes anything like 10-20mins to warm-up on "normal" / light driving (water temp takes 2-3 mins to go to normal when driving off from cold). And I always give it 1-2mins on idle on start-up whether it's cold or not.

Richard

TomsMR2 · 09-18-2007, 10:03 AM

another thing.. oil doesnt actually need to get up to temperature.. it needs to get up to thinness, or viscosity. of course thats temperature related, but 20w50 at 100 degrees is much thicker than 5w30 at 100 degrees! if you want maximum startup protection, and want your oil up to "temperature" as soon as possible, run 5w30!

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RST Beams Owners Group Join Date: May 2007 Location: Inverness, Scotland Posts: 479 Thanks: 8 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Guys, Fit an oil temp gauge (right hand gauge in my pic) and you should then know when you're safe to red line it. Personally I never give mine the beans, e.g. >5,00rpm 'till the oils warm -takes anything like 10-20mins to warm-up on "normal" / light driving (water temp takes 2-3 mins to go to normal when driving off from cold). And I always give it 1-2mins on idle on start-up whether it's cold or not. *Richard* Attached Thumbnails

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Bak@EMSPowered Banned Seller Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 30 Thanked 193 Times in 165 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/93% )	TomsMR2 is correct on this one... Listen to the man!!!

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Lachrymal Cloud The Constellation Branch Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Gilbert AZ Posts: 415 Thanks: 21 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Has anyone had a similar experience with my situation (post #15) above?

09-08-2007, 06:20 PM	#23 (permalink)
DrWonderEyes MR2 + 400hp = Fun Join Date: May 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 780 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	i let mine run a few mins. it wont drive to well till after it idles one or 2 mins

09-08-2007, 06:27 PM	#24 (permalink)
VeilsideMR2 91' N/A BeAsT Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jersey/Boston Posts: 212 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	this is a very good question, somethin i myself would want 2 kno.... i think TomsMR2 is right tho, it seems that the best way is to actually drive it right from the start-up instead of idling it....

09-09-2007, 10:04 AM	#25 (permalink)
runabout93 Cage Fighter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vermont Posts: 359 Thanks: 25 Thanked 42 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I think it's important to realize the necessity of letting the car lubricate before driving. The term "warm up" has hidden the necessity for lubircation. That's the problem with the term "warm up"... it is associated with heat. So, it's not as important to get your engine up to temparature as it is to make sure that the oil in the pan has had time to lubricate all the necessary pieces. The only thing that has to be warmed up before driving is the combustion chamber... which happens really fast. So, given this... the correct answer might be: Give your car time to circulate the oil after startup. When first driving, do not put your car under heavy load until the car is fully lubricated. Fully lubricated requires it to be at normal running temparature. Example: I usually start my car and let it idle for around a minute (+/-). Depending on the outside temp you can actually hear a difference in the engine when the car is sufficiently lubricated. I keep the rpm range under 3,000 until the car is up to temp. Once the temp gauge is reading normal... it is okay to "get on it." I am not 100% positive... But, I think it actually says this in the owners manual. It says nothing about waiting for the car's temp gauage... but, to simply wait a minute before driving. and maybe something about waiting until the idling has gone down. ??

09-09-2007, 10:20 AM	#26 (permalink)
DrWonderEyes MR2 + 400hp = Fun Join Date: May 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 780 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	a car runs best at normal temperature. after all thats why cars have a thermostat. to get it quickly up to operating temperature.

09-09-2007, 01:45 PM	#27 (permalink)
Lachrymal Cloud The Constellation Branch Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Gilbert AZ Posts: 415 Thanks: 21 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Do any of your MR2 Turbo's run like an asthmatic fat kid the first 3 minutes or so after ignition?

09-09-2007, 04:59 PM	#28 (permalink)
sleepermr2 Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 468 Thanks: 6 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	yea when its really cold outside it doesnt like to run right until i let it idle a bit. it takes a couple minutes till its going good

09-09-2007, 07:57 PM	#31 (permalink)
Lachrymal Cloud The Constellation Branch Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Gilbert AZ Posts: 415 Thanks: 21 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	There has got to be something wrong with my car. I live in Arizona so it's like like it needs to warm up from the cold.

09-09-2007, 10:43 PM	#33 (permalink)
albertgunit101 Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2007 Location: illinois Posts: 1,172 Thanks: 91 Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts iTrader Rating: (16/100% )	i am so glad i ask this question coz ever since i learned how to drive i never got any knowledge about warming the engine. all i know is not to drive like crazy when its still idling high and after that, redline time, hehehe. thanks for everybodys input on this.

09-10-2007, 12:57 AM	#35 (permalink)
Russell the Love Muscle Local Douche Bag Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 719 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	I fire it up, pull it out of my garage and boost hard and rev to redline, sometimes past!! But I am building my new motor and trying to blow mine up and its harder than I thought! I'm about ready to cut the wastegate actuator, but once I get the new motor built I will let it run for a few minutes, once the idle is normal!

09-15-2007, 09:31 PM	#37 (permalink)
mr2furious McLuvin Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	everytime i take off after starting it the idle is HORRIBLE! i know i have a bad idle, but if i dont let it warm up then wen i shift gears, for that split second wen i let off the gas the idle goes even higher! its like insted of the idle dropping it raises! so i let it warm up a bit =)

09-15-2007, 11:35 PM	#38 (permalink)
albertgunit101 Cage Fighter Join Date: May 2007 Location: illinois Posts: 1,172 Thanks: 91 Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts iTrader Rating: (16/100% )	^mine is just like yours before i crashed it. i think its pretty normal, so what i do is i tap the gas and it goes down after that.

09-18-2007, 10:03 AM	#40 (permalink)
TomsMR2 Still not heraldo. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pineapple under the sea Posts: 4,912 Thanks: 18 Thanked 406 Times in 303 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	another thing.. oil doesnt actually need to get up to temperature.. it needs to get up to thinness, or viscosity. of course thats temperature related, but 20w50 at 100 degrees is much thicker than 5w30 at 100 degrees! if you want maximum startup protection, and want your oil up to "temperature" as soon as possible, run 5w30!