AUTO TO MANUAL TRANNY SWAP PRICING

cakemashin' · 11-12-2008, 12:00 PM

I was just wondering if anyone has an idea how much parts would cost to do the auto to manual tranny swap... if i were to do it myself i mean. and what parts do i need. i know there is the tranny, axles, shifter, clutch, clutch master cylinder, brake pedal, ecu (i would rather have a manual ecu in stead of tricking the auto ecu). what other parts are needed... if any? ALSO what are the advantages and disadvantages of JDM?? i know some people don't like JDM, but i don't know why. also where is a good place to get parts and transmissions? i don't want to get some crappy tranny but then again i don't want to pay my life savings on one either.

Pontificus666 · 11-12-2008, 01:14 PM

I'm curious to know myself.

fvillota · 11-21-2008, 06:28 PM

it'll run about 600 to 100 dollars depending on the deal you get from the ppl here on the board. I got almost all my stuff from CJONESMR2. The rest of the stuff i got from doing a lil search. the hardest thing is to get a good tranny that doesn't grind or spit gears. I got mine for 100 dollars.
you can use the automatic axles they are the same (I'm using auto axles in my car)
you need the 2 shifter cables ( no the turbo cables are not the same! )
you need the shifter Assembly
The shifter knob with bezel
you need the slave and master cylinder. ( i recommend getting the slave cylinder brand new. its cheap and in a very uncomfortable place to get too so just buy it new and put it on while the tranny is out)
you need the clutch pedal assembly
you need the brake pedal Assembly (smaller then the auto)
you need all the hydro lines ( search at the threads I've made i have one where Aaron listed everything i needed. it'll run 100 something dollars brand new!)
the longest hydro line costs a lil less then 60 bucks and you need to get from the dealer (local dealer because its so long shipping sucks!)
get the hydro lines new! you don't want leaks!
um... u can use the auto ecu and the auto harness if you do the swap and can tell you how to tun the car on by tricking the ecu ( had this problem lol ) very easy.
the only problem i had is that the mount on the farthest left side ( driver ) didn't come with the tranny and its the only mount that is different and you cant take from the auto to put in the manual like the rest. cost be 180 at Toyota I'm sure u can get it cheap or have something on the forum sell it.

oh u need the clutch, pressure plate, and flywheel.

I used OEM exedy and works fine.

if i missed anything or need any help om me.

metheores · 11-21-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cakemashin'

(i would rather have a manual ecu in stead of tricking the auto ecu). what other parts are needed... if any? ALSO what are the advantages and disadvantages of JDM?? i know some people don't like JDM, but i don't know why.

Why waste more money on a manual ECU if you can use the other one? The more you save on little things the less it's gonna run ya.

What type of JDM are you talking about?
and who could possibly not like JDM?

fvillota · 11-21-2008, 06:40 PM

lol well u can get the manual ecu with the harness but ive had ppl explain to me that have done the swap it is a pita to put that harness in. lol thats why i stuck to the auto ecu and tricked. runs good and smooth. up to you bro.

TomsMR2 · 11-23-2008, 02:40 PM

the 91 AT ecu is actually better than the 91 MT ecu. 93's are functionally the same.

you'd have to change the body harness with the engine harness.. you'd also need new sensors, a new tb if its a 91, and i think injectors. its more of a pain in the ass than its worth.. its actually worthless since it wont run any better with the mt ecu.

cakemashin' · 11-25-2008, 09:04 AM

ok. sweet. thanks guys. i just wanted the manual ecu because i figured that it would easier and more legit... and i figured it would have less problems later on down the road. but i will take your word that the AT ecu is easier... i've never done any of this type of work before so i didn't know. it will probably be a while before i do a swap because i have no job or resources to do the swap right now. really appreciate the input guys. my car has about 167,000 miles on it right now. do yall recommend that i rebuild the engine soon? it hasn't been rebuilt before and i keep it maintained pretty well... but i'm fairly sure that the previous owner didn't take very good care of it

metheores · 11-25-2008, 09:21 AM

I wouldn't say you have to rebuild it right now. if you've taken good care of it til' now it should be on good condition. Check your compression and see if it's up to spec. Since an engine rebuild covers most of the stuff you should enjoy your engine until you are ready to spend the money on a build. Until your old one gives out, or until you have all the parts in yo hand so you can start working on your rebuild as soon as possible.

jazzcornet · 12-14-2008, 07:04 PM

is there a write up or a how-to anywhere for doing this conversion? or at least a simple what needs to go where and in which order? i will be tackling this job for a customer and i figure i should probably do my research before i undergo the operation.

fvillota · 12-15-2008, 09:29 AM

well u can always pm me. i did the whole job about 1 month ago and have it all fresh. i havent done a write up because ive been all screwed up n lost my job.

jazzcornet · 12-15-2008, 09:34 AM

Thanks. I appreciate it. We'll be in touch

jazzcornet · 12-15-2008, 09:36 AM

Thanks. I appreciate it. We'll be un touch.

fvillota · 12-15-2008, 09:40 AM

no problem bro. when u pm me or anything i'll give you my number just in case ur stuck with anything.

MR2-MRnot · 12-15-2008, 10:54 AM

im swapping my motor soon, doesnt help the AT-MT swap...a little, in the thought that i am pulling the whole tranny, axles, hubs, clutch job, shift linkage, etc. also, im going to have the S54 tranny and cables, plus i have the stock shifter, so really all you would need is the pedal assembly, if anyone wants it let me know, u can have it cheap, ill have axles too, but i hear the AT and MT axles are the same

nof555 · 12-15-2008, 11:00 AM

I will be doing the swap as well along with a gen 3 swap so I may get your number as well for problems I may have.

fvillota · 12-15-2008, 06:02 PM

ok no problem guys just let me know and pm me. umm.. yes the axles are the same. im using AT axles in my 2 and have no problem.

PMoo1519 · 01-13-2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR2-MRnot

im swapping my motor soon, doesnt help the AT-MT swap...a little, in the thought that i am pulling the whole tranny, axles, hubs, clutch job, shift linkage, etc. also, im going to have the S54 tranny and cables, plus i have the stock shifter, so really all you would need is the pedal assembly, if anyone wants it let me know, u can have it cheap, ill have axles too, but i hear the AT and MT axles are the same

how much for it??? how much more would i need to spend for the pedal assembly?

thornz12 · 02-01-2009, 02:43 PM

you dont need the axles if your not going to swap. but u may as well change it all if u plan on doing it.

11-12-2008, 12:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
cakemashin' Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hempstead, TX Posts: 152 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	AUTO TO MANUAL TRANNY SWAP PRICING I was just wondering if anyone has an idea how much parts would cost to do the auto to manual tranny swap... if i were to do it myself i mean. and what parts do i need. i know there is the tranny, axles, shifter, clutch, clutch master cylinder, brake pedal, ecu (i would rather have a manual ecu in stead of tricking the auto ecu). what other parts are needed... if any? ALSO what are the advantages and disadvantages of JDM?? i know some people don't like JDM, but i don't know why. also where is a good place to get parts and transmissions? i don't want to get some crappy tranny but then again i don't want to pay my life savings on one either.

11-23-2008, 02:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
TomsMR2 Still not heraldo. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pineapple under the sea Posts: 4,912 Thanks: 18 Thanked 406 Times in 303 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	the 91 AT ecu is actually better than the 91 MT ecu. 93's are functionally the same. you'd have to change the body harness with the engine harness.. you'd also need new sensors, a new tb if its a 91, and i think injectors. its more of a pain in the ass than its worth.. its actually worthless since it wont run any better with the mt ecu. __________________ Science fact: If you took all the veins from your body and laid them end to end, you would die.

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11-12-2008, 01:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pontificus666 No Skills Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 24 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I'm curious to know myself.

11-21-2008, 06:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	it'll run about 600 to 100 dollars depending on the deal you get from the ppl here on the board. I got almost all my stuff from CJONESMR2. The rest of the stuff i got from doing a lil search. the hardest thing is to get a good tranny that doesn't grind or spit gears. I got mine for 100 dollars. you can use the automatic axles they are the same (I'm using auto axles in my car) you need the 2 shifter cables ( no the turbo cables are not the same! ) you need the shifter Assembly The shifter knob with bezel you need the slave and master cylinder. ( i recommend getting the slave cylinder brand new. its cheap and in a very uncomfortable place to get too so just buy it new and put it on while the tranny is out) you need the clutch pedal assembly you need the brake pedal Assembly (smaller then the auto) you need all the hydro lines ( search at the threads I've made i have one where Aaron listed everything i needed. it'll run 100 something dollars brand new!) the longest hydro line costs a lil less then 60 bucks and you need to get from the dealer (local dealer because its so long shipping sucks!) get the hydro lines new! you don't want leaks! um... u can use the auto ecu and the auto harness if you do the swap and can tell you how to tun the car on by tricking the ecu ( had this problem lol ) very easy. the only problem i had is that the mount on the farthest left side ( driver ) didn't come with the tranny and its the only mount that is different and you cant take from the auto to put in the manual like the rest. cost be 180 at Toyota I'm sure u can get it cheap or have something on the forum sell it. oh u need the clutch, pressure plate, and flywheel. I used OEM exedy and works fine. if i missed anything or need any help om me.

11-21-2008, 06:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	lol well u can get the manual ecu with the harness but ive had ppl explain to me that have done the swap it is a pita to put that harness in. lol thats why i stuck to the auto ecu and tricked. runs good and smooth. up to you bro.

11-25-2008, 09:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
cakemashin' Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hempstead, TX Posts: 152 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	ok. sweet. thanks guys. i just wanted the manual ecu because i figured that it would easier and more legit... and i figured it would have less problems later on down the road. but i will take your word that the AT ecu is easier... i've never done any of this type of work before so i didn't know. it will probably be a while before i do a swap because i have no job or resources to do the swap right now. really appreciate the input guys. my car has about 167,000 miles on it right now. do yall recommend that i rebuild the engine soon? it hasn't been rebuilt before and i keep it maintained pretty well... but i'm fairly sure that the previous owner didn't take very good care of it

11-25-2008, 09:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
metheores Supreme! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 658 Thanks: 38 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I wouldn't say you have to rebuild it right now. if you've taken good care of it til' now it should be on good condition. Check your compression and see if it's up to spec. Since an engine rebuild covers most of the stuff you should enjoy your engine until you are ready to spend the money on a build. Until your old one gives out, or until you have all the parts in yo hand so you can start working on your rebuild as soon as possible.

12-14-2008, 07:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
jazzcornet Gi_Shu_Som Powdercoating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: newport news, va Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 16 Thanked 53 Times in 44 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (15/100% )	is there a write up or a how-to anywhere for doing this conversion? or at least a simple what needs to go where and in which order? i will be tackling this job for a customer and i figure i should probably do my research before i undergo the operation.

12-15-2008, 09:29 AM	#10 (permalink)
fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	well u can always pm me. i did the whole job about 1 month ago and have it all fresh. i havent done a write up because ive been all screwed up n lost my job.

12-15-2008, 09:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
jazzcornet Gi_Shu_Som Powdercoating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: newport news, va Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 16 Thanked 53 Times in 44 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (15/100% )	Thanks. I appreciate it. We'll be in touch

12-15-2008, 09:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
jazzcornet Gi_Shu_Som Powdercoating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: newport news, va Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 16 Thanked 53 Times in 44 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (15/100% )	Thanks. I appreciate it. We'll be un touch.

12-15-2008, 09:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	no problem bro. when u pm me or anything i'll give you my number just in case ur stuck with anything.

12-15-2008, 10:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
MR2-MRnot Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Akron, OH-IO Posts: 668 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	im swapping my motor soon, doesnt help the AT-MT swap...a little, in the thought that i am pulling the whole tranny, axles, hubs, clutch job, shift linkage, etc. also, im going to have the S54 tranny and cables, plus i have the stock shifter, so really all you would need is the pedal assembly, if anyone wants it let me know, u can have it cheap, ill have axles too, but i hear the AT and MT axles are the same

12-15-2008, 11:00 AM	#15 (permalink)
nof555 B Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lynchburg, VA Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I will be doing the swap as well along with a gen 3 swap so I may get your number as well for problems I may have.

12-15-2008, 06:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	ok no problem guys just let me know and pm me. umm.. yes the axles are the same. im using AT axles in my 2 and have no problem.

02-01-2009, 02:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
thornz12 No Skills Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 43 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	you dont need the axles if your not going to swap. but u may as well change it all if u plan on doing it.