3SGE 2ND gen BUIlD - Page 2

MR2enV · 09-23-2009, 12:29 AM

I dont Think your ready but here it goes

MR2enV · 09-23-2009, 12:31 AM

MR2enV · 09-23-2009, 12:50 AM

let me kno what you think

ZIELINSKI · 09-23-2009, 03:50 AM

Mate. Thats siiickkk.. Flying the flag for the 3SGE boysss.. hahahhaa.. Well done... Now get some Vids of this baby singing..

Extreamly well done..

muffinman · 09-23-2009, 09:39 AM

I think i want to see and hear this thing in person.

we need to find some other local people and get together.

btw great work now post that damn video.

MR2enV · 09-23-2009, 10:44 AM

thanks fellas..... oh and muffinman yea we should have a little mr2 meet.. I kno a guy with a fully built one you have probably seen it on craigslist its yellow with a fully built 3rd gen, another guy with a right hand drive one all black turbo he goes to 27......

How do you post a video? do I upload to photobucket then post on thread

muffinman · 09-23-2009, 10:52 AM

i think with photobucket you just post the link

da_force · 09-23-2009, 02:20 PM

Very nice mate

truly exciteing stuff right there

Ah I would love to hear it in person

MR2enV · 09-23-2009, 07:09 PM

its smoking bad because piston rings in 2,3,4 have not sat correctly.. I spaced the gaps away from eachothe but the rings are not scraping the walls... im gonna leave the chambers filled with mystery oil to see if the rings will expand.. if not tearing it apart again... but it starts and idles and revs really mean.....

MR2enV · 09-28-2009, 12:17 AM

sooooooo something has seemed to go wrong during the build.... The dam thing keeps smoking up a shiiit storm....... getting blowby... exhaust throwing smoke like hell, pistons are wet with oil..... some people say its the rings that need to set properly but F that ima tear it all down again and see wha the hell is wrong....

da_force · 09-28-2009, 04:33 PM

Hate it when that happens!

MR JAS · 09-28-2009, 04:56 PM

i suspect you will see some shiny bores as you either dint hone them right or didnt run it in right

MR2enV · 09-28-2009, 08:57 PM

I was told by my shop buddy/ toyota guru that when its your oil rings are bad it smokes blue.. when it smokes white its you valve stem seals....

MANDALAY · 09-28-2009, 11:39 PM

Question. When you cleaned up your block , you say you honed it , was it bored also ?
The pistons that you got were they accomodating in size to what you did , likewise the rings ?
Generally speaking one would have O/S pistons and get the machinist to bore and hone to measurement.
Trying to get an understanding whats happened.

MR JAS · 09-29-2009, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR2enV

I was told by my shop buddy/ toyota guru that when its your oil rings are bad it smokes blue.. when it smokes white its you valve stem seals....

rings and valve stems should smoke the same colour only differance is the valve stem seals will smoke more at start up or just after being on the over run

very white smoke can be caused by brake fluid if the master cylinder leaks into the vacuum box it will go up the vac lines into the intake
pop the vacuum line off and see if any fluid drips out at all after a few mins

MR2enV · 09-30-2009, 11:05 AM

very white smoke can be caused by brake fluid if the master cylinder leaks into the vacuum box it will go up the vac lines into the intake
pop the vacuum line off and see if any fluid drips out at all after a few mins

Na thats all new...... checked compression yesterday..cly1-170 cyl2-130 cyl3-130 cyl4-145..... im leaning towards rings.. might have been cut wrong or they got bent or the block needs re honing..... never bored the block out.. im using 3sge rev3 pistons.. standard bore size.. im going to buy valve stem seals and chage them out... and re do the rings with a friend of mine that has built a couple of 3sgte's, 5sgte, 3sge's, etc.... ill be pulling it out and apart this week so ill keep you guys posted..

muffinman · 09-30-2009, 12:24 PM

GL

I hope your able to get it sorted out.

grjr · 10-22-2009, 02:43 AM

any updates on what happened to your motor?

rotorguy2 · 10-22-2009, 08:20 AM

must have a vid NOW

MR2enV · 10-22-2009, 12:40 PM

pulled motor apart.... the pistons i have are from a 97 so the rings I inserted were not the right thickness.... I left my block at the toyota engine builder freind of mine... I lost patience and let him do it,... I still have not got the motor bock so im not sure when I will get it back

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09-23-2009, 12:29 AM	#21 (permalink)
MR2enV 21.1 Gigawatts Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/75% )	I dont Think your ready but here it goes

09-23-2009, 12:31 AM	#22 (permalink)
MR2enV 21.1 Gigawatts Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/75% )

09-23-2009, 12:50 AM	#23 (permalink)
MR2enV 21.1 Gigawatts Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/75% )	let me kno what you think

09-23-2009, 03:50 AM	#24 (permalink)
ZIELINSKI Ready to Learn Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 198 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Mate. Thats siiickkk.. Flying the flag for the 3SGE boysss.. hahahhaa.. Well done... Now get some Vids of this baby singing.. Extreamly well done..

09-23-2009, 09:39 AM	#25 (permalink)
muffinman U-P-G-R-A-Y-E-D-D Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 5,881 Thanks: 53 Thanked 283 Times in 272 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I think i want to see and hear this thing in person. we need to find some other local people and get together. btw great work now post that damn video.

09-23-2009, 10:44 AM	#26 (permalink)
MR2enV 21.1 Gigawatts Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/75% )	thanks fellas..... oh and muffinman yea we should have a little mr2 meet.. I kno a guy with a fully built one you have probably seen it on craigslist its yellow with a fully built 3rd gen, another guy with a right hand drive one all black turbo he goes to 27...... How do you post a video? do I upload to photobucket then post on thread

09-23-2009, 10:52 AM	#27 (permalink)
muffinman U-P-G-R-A-Y-E-D-D Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 5,881 Thanks: 53 Thanked 283 Times in 272 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	i think with photobucket you just post the link

09-23-2009, 02:20 PM	#28 (permalink)
da_force Stance Seeker Join Date: May 2009 Location: Croatia, Zagreb Posts: 140 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Very nice mate truly exciteing stuff right there Ah I would love to hear it in person

09-23-2009, 07:09 PM	#29 (permalink)
MR2enV 21.1 Gigawatts Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/75% )	its smoking bad because piston rings in 2,3,4 have not sat correctly.. I spaced the gaps away from eachothe but the rings are not scraping the walls... im gonna leave the chambers filled with mystery oil to see if the rings will expand.. if not tearing it apart again... but it starts and idles and revs really mean.....

09-28-2009, 12:17 AM	#30 (permalink)
MR2enV 21.1 Gigawatts Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/75% )	sooooooo something has seemed to go wrong during the build.... The dam thing keeps smoking up a shiiit storm....... getting blowby... exhaust throwing smoke like hell, pistons are wet with oil..... some people say its the rings that need to set properly but F that ima tear it all down again and see wha the hell is wrong....

09-28-2009, 04:33 PM	#31 (permalink)
da_force Stance Seeker Join Date: May 2009 Location: Croatia, Zagreb Posts: 140 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Hate it when that happens!

09-28-2009, 04:56 PM	#32 (permalink)
MR JAS Generous to a fault Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: hamilton new zealand Posts: 722 Thanks: 19 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i suspect you will see some shiny bores as you either dint hone them right or didnt run it in right

09-28-2009, 08:57 PM	#33 (permalink)
MR2enV 21.1 Gigawatts Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/75% )	I was told by my shop buddy/ toyota guru that when its your oil rings are bad it smokes blue.. when it smokes white its you valve stem seals....

09-28-2009, 11:39 PM	#34 (permalink)
MANDALAY Beams Owners Group Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: victoria AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,210 Thanks: 136 Thanked 112 Times in 107 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	Question. When you cleaned up your block , you say you honed it , was it bored also ? The pistons that you got were they accomodating in size to what you did , likewise the rings ? Generally speaking one would have O/S pistons and get the machinist to bore and hone to measurement. Trying to get an understanding whats happened.

09-30-2009, 11:05 AM	#36 (permalink)
MR2enV 21.1 Gigawatts Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/75% )	very white smoke can be caused by brake fluid if the master cylinder leaks into the vacuum box it will go up the vac lines into the intake pop the vacuum line off and see if any fluid drips out at all after a few mins Na thats all new...... checked compression yesterday..cly1-170 cyl2-130 cyl3-130 cyl4-145..... im leaning towards rings.. might have been cut wrong or they got bent or the block needs re honing..... never bored the block out.. im using 3sge rev3 pistons.. standard bore size.. im going to buy valve stem seals and chage them out... and re do the rings with a friend of mine that has built a couple of 3sgte's, 5sgte, 3sge's, etc.... ill be pulling it out and apart this week so ill keep you guys posted..

09-30-2009, 12:24 PM	#37 (permalink)
muffinman U-P-G-R-A-Y-E-D-D Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 5,881 Thanks: 53 Thanked 283 Times in 272 Posts Blog Entries: 1 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	GL I hope your able to get it sorted out.

10-22-2009, 02:43 AM	#38 (permalink)
grjr No Skills Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bakersfield CA Posts: 22 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	any updates on what happened to your motor?

10-22-2009, 08:20 AM	#39 (permalink)
rotorguy2 Some Skills Join Date: May 2009 Location: dover DE from b-more MD Posts: 97 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	must have a vid NOW

10-22-2009, 12:40 PM	#40 (permalink)
MR2enV 21.1 Gigawatts Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/75% )	pulled motor apart.... the pistons i have are from a 97 so the rings I inserted were not the right thickness.... I left my block at the toyota engine builder freind of mine... I lost patience and let him do it,... I still have not got the motor bock so im not sure when I will get it back