my 5sfte project - Page 6

tstoney82 · 08-22-2009, 12:25 PM

im gonna need to source one of those clips. once i get that im ready.

killermillermr2 · 08-22-2009, 04:09 PM

any good harware store should have them in the fastener section(nuts, bolts, washers). NAPA or Checkers should have them as well.

SW21T · 08-22-2009, 10:21 PM

Sweet man, pics and a video would be awsome.

tstoney82 · 08-23-2009, 11:15 AM

when its all said and done i will definitely post some pics and possibly some video. the car is still stripped down to bare metal right now. i havent had a chance to prime it yet. but i think i might have a chance to get around to it sometime soon.

tstoney82 · 08-25-2009, 12:35 PM

ok so i ran into a problem with the clip to the waste gate. seems that the person who sold me the downpipe didnt tell me he dented it enough to clear the oil filter, but too much so that the flapper to the wastegate wouldnt move. so im stuck with the issue that the flapper wont move close enough to the bar for me to install the clip. not that it would do any good installing the clip because the damn flapper wont flap. i have a stock down pipe i can put on, but it wont bolt up to the exhaust and im not sure it will clear the oil filter.

in the pic you can see my problem. there is at least an inch between the flapper and the bar and the flapper will not move from that position.

killermillermr2 · 08-25-2009, 11:18 PM

That sucks! The stock down pipe will clear the oil filter.

And is it stuck open? or am I looking at it wrong.

tstoney82 · 08-25-2009, 11:38 PM

im thinking its stuck open because im not boosting (or i have another problem) but it may be stuck closed because i dont think it has room to open. the pic was taken from the bottom of the car looking upward. any ideas?

i could use the stock dp but i dont have the piping that goes from it to the exhaust. (maybe catalytic converter?)

killermillermr2 · 08-25-2009, 11:49 PM

Its raining right now and Im a little tipsy, so I can look in the morning for ideas. yeah, what bolts on right after the DP is the cat. If you are not boosting it sounds like your stuck open. May need to take the DP off the turbo and make sure the flapper isnt pined up somehow.

Pic of DP/cat (in this pic the cat is bolted in the wrong direction. Another good pic:http://www.mr2.com/forums/turbo-3s-g...down-pipe.html)

DP/oil filter clearance

fvillota · 08-25-2009, 11:54 PM

im gonna test fir my stuff tomorrow and cut the pipes up to where everything is nice and neat.

just gotta buy a return oil line. and the coolant hoses for the goose necks.

any ideas where what type of hose i can use for the return?

killermillermr2 · 08-25-2009, 11:58 PM

Good, strong, 3/8 radiator hose. Good autoparts stores will sell it by the foot from a roll behind the counter.

killermillermr2 · 08-26-2009, 12:00 AM

Oops. I misread the post. I used heavy 3/4 rubber hose and bend protector for the L into the tank. Also heat wrap the return hose because it is very close to the DP. If you have the $, steel braded/heat wrapped is the way to go.

fvillota · 08-26-2009, 12:05 AM

so just to recap, if i dont like the price on the steal braid.
a heavy duty coolant rubber hose will do? and heat wrap it?

killermillermr2 · 08-26-2009, 09:57 AM

yup. I would heat wrap it either way. The return runs directly between the down pipe and block. I dont have mine wrapped and I am noticing the rubber drying out and it will soon crack. I am just waitint till I need to take off the turbo to replace and wrap the return.

They also sell these bend protectors (looks like a tight coiled spring with a thin strap along one side). This will make bends in the hose and not let it pinch off.

tstoney82 · 08-26-2009, 12:17 PM

ok so i need a catalytic converter to make my stock dp work. know of anyone who's selling one?

killermillermr2 · 08-26-2009, 02:15 PM

Do you have enough room to pop out some of the dent interfering with the wastegate?

tstoney82 · 08-26-2009, 04:43 PM

maybe. i'll have to check. it just sucks that i have to take all of the stuff back OFF my car to fix the problem. maybe when i take it off i can knock some space there for the wastegate and possibly make more room for the oil filter.

killermillermr2 · 08-26-2009, 09:16 PM

You shouldnt need to undo the turbo and its lines. just unbolt the DP and remove the oil filter. then you can pull out the DP and see what it needs. You might just have the wastegate stuck open on the dent and just need to flip it down and reinstall the DP.

If you do find out you have to beat the dent back, go a little at a time because there is not much room between the wastegate and oil filter. Knocking it back too much might cause issues with the filter clearance

A top pick of the down pipe/turbo might help in diagnosing the problem.

tstoney82 · 08-27-2009, 06:53 PM

i'll post one in a few

killermillermr2 · 08-27-2009, 09:26 PM

I have a guy localy that has the cat part(gutted). I can get it and ship it to you this coming Monday. let me know.

tstoney82 · 08-27-2009, 09:33 PM

the pic shows the clearance that i have.....which is little to none. not nearly as much as you have.

08-25-2009, 12:35 PM	#105 (permalink)
tstoney82 one hitter quiter.... Join Date: May 2009 Location: clayton nc Posts: 638 Thanks: 16 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	ok so i ran into a problem with the clip to the waste gate. seems that the person who sold me the downpipe didnt tell me he dented it enough to clear the oil filter, but too much so that the flapper to the wastegate wouldnt move. so im stuck with the issue that the flapper wont move close enough to the bar for me to install the clip. not that it would do any good installing the clip because the damn flapper wont flap. i have a stock down pipe i can put on, but it wont bolt up to the exhaust and im not sure it will clear the oil filter. in the pic you can see my problem. there is at least an inch between the flapper and the bar and the flapper will not move from that position. Attached Thumbnails

08-25-2009, 11:49 PM	#108 (permalink)
killermillermr2 Honda Hunter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 864 Thanks: 25 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	Its raining right now and Im a little tipsy, so I can look in the morning for ideas. yeah, what bolts on right after the DP is the cat. If you are not boosting it sounds like your stuck open. May need to take the DP off the turbo and make sure the flapper isnt pined up somehow. Pic of DP/cat (in this pic the cat is bolted in the wrong direction. Another good pic:http://www.mr2.com/forums/turbo-3s-g...down-pipe.html) DP/oil filter clearance Attached Thumbnails

08-27-2009, 09:33 PM	#120 (permalink)
tstoney82 one hitter quiter.... Join Date: May 2009 Location: clayton nc Posts: 638 Thanks: 16 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	the pic shows the clearance that i have.....which is little to none. not nearly as much as you have. Attached Thumbnails

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08-22-2009, 12:25 PM	#101 (permalink)
tstoney82 one hitter quiter.... Join Date: May 2009 Location: clayton nc Posts: 638 Thanks: 16 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	im gonna need to source one of those clips. once i get that im ready.

08-22-2009, 04:09 PM	#102 (permalink)
killermillermr2 Honda Hunter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 864 Thanks: 25 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	any good harware store should have them in the fastener section(nuts, bolts, washers). NAPA or Checkers should have them as well.

08-22-2009, 10:21 PM	#103 (permalink)
SW21T 400HP 3rd gen?? Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Washington St Posts: 1,853 Thanks: 143 Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts iTrader Rating: (18/100% )	Sweet man, pics and a video would be awsome.

08-23-2009, 11:15 AM	#104 (permalink)
tstoney82 one hitter quiter.... Join Date: May 2009 Location: clayton nc Posts: 638 Thanks: 16 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	when its all said and done i will definitely post some pics and possibly some video. the car is still stripped down to bare metal right now. i havent had a chance to prime it yet. but i think i might have a chance to get around to it sometime soon.

08-25-2009, 11:18 PM	#106 (permalink)
killermillermr2 Honda Hunter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 864 Thanks: 25 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	That sucks! The stock down pipe will clear the oil filter. And is it stuck open? or am I looking at it wrong.

08-25-2009, 11:38 PM	#107 (permalink)
tstoney82 one hitter quiter.... Join Date: May 2009 Location: clayton nc Posts: 638 Thanks: 16 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	im thinking its stuck open because im not boosting (or i have another problem) but it may be stuck closed because i dont think it has room to open. the pic was taken from the bottom of the car looking upward. any ideas? i could use the stock dp but i dont have the piping that goes from it to the exhaust. (maybe catalytic converter?)

08-25-2009, 11:54 PM	#109 (permalink)
fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	im gonna test fir my stuff tomorrow and cut the pipes up to where everything is nice and neat. just gotta buy a return oil line. and the coolant hoses for the goose necks. any ideas where what type of hose i can use for the return?

08-25-2009, 11:58 PM	#110 (permalink)
killermillermr2 Honda Hunter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 864 Thanks: 25 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	Good, strong, 3/8 radiator hose. Good autoparts stores will sell it by the foot from a roll behind the counter.

08-26-2009, 12:00 AM	#111 (permalink)
killermillermr2 Honda Hunter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 864 Thanks: 25 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	Oops. I misread the post. I used heavy 3/4 rubber hose and bend protector for the L into the tank. Also heat wrap the return hose because it is very close to the DP. If you have the $, steel braded/heat wrapped is the way to go.

08-26-2009, 12:05 AM	#112 (permalink)
fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	so just to recap, if i dont like the price on the steal braid. a heavy duty coolant rubber hose will do? and heat wrap it?

08-26-2009, 09:57 AM	#113 (permalink)
killermillermr2 Honda Hunter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 864 Thanks: 25 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	yup. I would heat wrap it either way. The return runs directly between the down pipe and block. I dont have mine wrapped and I am noticing the rubber drying out and it will soon crack. I am just waitint till I need to take off the turbo to replace and wrap the return. They also sell these bend protectors (looks like a tight coiled spring with a thin strap along one side). This will make bends in the hose and not let it pinch off.

08-26-2009, 12:17 PM	#114 (permalink)
tstoney82 one hitter quiter.... Join Date: May 2009 Location: clayton nc Posts: 638 Thanks: 16 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	ok so i need a catalytic converter to make my stock dp work. know of anyone who's selling one?

08-26-2009, 02:15 PM	#115 (permalink)
killermillermr2 Honda Hunter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 864 Thanks: 25 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	Do you have enough room to pop out some of the dent interfering with the wastegate?

08-26-2009, 04:43 PM	#116 (permalink)
tstoney82 one hitter quiter.... Join Date: May 2009 Location: clayton nc Posts: 638 Thanks: 16 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	maybe. i'll have to check. it just sucks that i have to take all of the stuff back OFF my car to fix the problem. maybe when i take it off i can knock some space there for the wastegate and possibly make more room for the oil filter.

08-26-2009, 09:16 PM	#117 (permalink)
killermillermr2 Honda Hunter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 864 Thanks: 25 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	You shouldnt need to undo the turbo and its lines. just unbolt the DP and remove the oil filter. then you can pull out the DP and see what it needs. You might just have the wastegate stuck open on the dent and just need to flip it down and reinstall the DP. If you do find out you have to beat the dent back, go a little at a time because there is not much room between the wastegate and oil filter. Knocking it back too much might cause issues with the filter clearance A top pick of the down pipe/turbo might help in diagnosing the problem.

08-27-2009, 06:53 PM	#118 (permalink)
tstoney82 one hitter quiter.... Join Date: May 2009 Location: clayton nc Posts: 638 Thanks: 16 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	i'll post one in a few

08-27-2009, 09:26 PM	#119 (permalink)
killermillermr2 Honda Hunter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 864 Thanks: 25 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts iTrader Rating: (10/100% )	I have a guy localy that has the cat part(gutted). I can get it and ship it to you this coming Monday. let me know.