3SGE Rev2 header and front pipe

astronauta22 · 11-08-2009, 11:48 AM

Hello buddys, i have some leacks at the header and front/down pipe and i'm not able to find it, i found on ebay OBX and others 'cheaps' pipes but they seem fits only on the 5sfe engine.. so i need your help guys, i'm looking jut for one cheap reemplacement for the stock that fits on my 3sge without problems, tricks, welds or whatever , what do you think?

djskorch · 11-08-2009, 12:44 PM

the 5sfe header will fit on the 2nd gen 3sge. its the 3rd gen 3sge that it will not work with. same as a 1st and 2nd gen 3sgte manifold will fit on a 5sfe head (5sfte kit anyone) but the 3rd gen and 4th gen 3sgte manifolds are different. so just get yourself a 5sfe header (make sure to get a decent one so it doesnt crack at the welds)(obx has been decent from what i have heard) and call it a day. good luck

astronauta22 · 11-08-2009, 02:57 PM

Thanks for reply

So this pipe this pipe will fit perfect on my 3sge?

I see the flex is in another place (in my downpipe the flex is in the middle) what about that? also i'm worry about the supports holes for attach to the chassis, will match as stock one?

Two things more, will i losee noticiable power on low/ med range with the 4-1-1? will i get different / higher sound? i just want to be quiet

Regards!

djskorch · 11-08-2009, 08:41 PM

yes that should work fine as long as you are putting it on a 2nd gen 3sge. where the flex pipe is wont matter as long as there is one. lol. as far as the stock exhaust hanger mounts, you will have to make a custom one on the top of the cross memeber but an exhaust shop should be able to fab up something pretty cheap for you. (thats what i had to do when i put my header and dp on my 5s) as far as power, im not sure on the 3s if you will lose power down low but on my 5s, it actually flattened out my torque curve from about 3300 up but below that, it did drop off a little. (and yes i took it to a dyno and tested stock vs aftermarket) i did however get about 7whp and 6wtq overall improvment. stock 5s with just header and exhaust pushed 114.9 whp and 128.6 wtq) sound will deff change. even if you use the stock muffler, it will be louder. i had a straight through exhaust with an apexi n1 style muffler and it was LOUD. hope this helps

astronauta22 · 11-09-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by djskorch

as far as the stock exhaust hanger mounts, you will have to make a custom one on the top of the cross memeber

thanks for your help

i was looking for the same sound (or atleast softer sound but not louder lol) but anyway, i have not chance, just the last thing that i hope don't bother you, can you explain me a little more about the quote?

Regards

djskorch · 11-09-2009, 09:27 PM

if you look on the picture of the header and b pipe your looking at, youll see right before the bend on the bpipe that there is a hanger bracket sticking out. on my mr2 at least, there was no mount for that so an exhaust shop had to make a custom one. there is a bolt on the crossmember for a mount but on mine at least, the bracket wasnt there. an exhaust shop should only charge you 15 or 20 bucks to make one. and no bother at all, thats what the board is for. lol

astronauta22 · 11-10-2009, 08:34 AM

many many thanks

As i understand they need to make a custom bracket to attach to the chassis to match with the stick that the bpipe already has, that sound pretty easy

I was worried about the posibility to need to weld something to the pipe, i have heard that weld over the pipe it's very difficult and that was my reason to understand what kind of "custom thing" they need to do

As said before, thanks again

Regards

11-08-2009, 11:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
astronauta22 No Skills Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	3SGE Rev2 header and front pipe Hello buddys, i have some leacks at the header and front/down pipe and i'm not able to find it, i found on ebay OBX and others 'cheaps' pipes but they seem fits only on the 5sfe engine.. so i need your help guys, i'm looking jut for one cheap reemplacement for the stock that fits on my 3sge without problems, tricks, welds or whatever , what do you think?

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11-08-2009, 12:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
djskorch djskorch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 634 Thanks: 5 Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	the 5sfe header will fit on the 2nd gen 3sge. its the 3rd gen 3sge that it will not work with. same as a 1st and 2nd gen 3sgte manifold will fit on a 5sfe head (5sfte kit anyone) but the 3rd gen and 4th gen 3sgte manifolds are different. so just get yourself a 5sfe header (make sure to get a decent one so it doesnt crack at the welds)(obx has been decent from what i have heard) and call it a day. good luck

11-08-2009, 02:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
astronauta22 No Skills Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Thanks for reply So this pipe this pipe will fit perfect on my 3sge? I see the flex is in another place (in my downpipe the flex is in the middle) what about that? also i'm worry about the supports holes for attach to the chassis, will match as stock one? Two things more, will i losee noticiable power on low/ med range with the 4-1-1? will i get different / higher sound? i just want to be quiet Regards!

11-08-2009, 08:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
djskorch djskorch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 634 Thanks: 5 Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	yes that should work fine as long as you are putting it on a 2nd gen 3sge. where the flex pipe is wont matter as long as there is one. lol. as far as the stock exhaust hanger mounts, you will have to make a custom one on the top of the cross memeber but an exhaust shop should be able to fab up something pretty cheap for you. (thats what i had to do when i put my header and dp on my 5s) as far as power, im not sure on the 3s if you will lose power down low but on my 5s, it actually flattened out my torque curve from about 3300 up but below that, it did drop off a little. (and yes i took it to a dyno and tested stock vs aftermarket) i did however get about 7whp and 6wtq overall improvment. stock 5s with just header and exhaust pushed 114.9 whp and 128.6 wtq) sound will deff change. even if you use the stock muffler, it will be louder. i had a straight through exhaust with an apexi n1 style muffler and it was LOUD. hope this helps

11-09-2009, 09:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
djskorch djskorch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 634 Thanks: 5 Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	if you look on the picture of the header and b pipe your looking at, youll see right before the bend on the bpipe that there is a hanger bracket sticking out. on my mr2 at least, there was no mount for that so an exhaust shop had to make a custom one. there is a bolt on the crossmember for a mount but on mine at least, the bracket wasnt there. an exhaust shop should only charge you 15 or 20 bucks to make one. and no bother at all, thats what the board is for. lol

11-10-2009, 08:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
astronauta22 No Skills Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	many many thanks As i understand they need to make a custom bracket to attach to the chassis to match with the stick that the bpipe already has, that sound pretty easy I was worried about the posibility to need to weld something to the pipe, i have heard that weld over the pipe it's very difficult and that was my reason to understand what kind of "custom thing" they need to do As said before, thanks again Regards