Advancing Timing

lmp9002002 · 11-08-2009, 02:00 PM

I read through the sticky at the top of the forum "things to do when you first get your mr2 NA" and saw a bit in there that said i could crank my timing to 14 degrees. I've also heard i can do 16 degrees if i run on 93 octane.
First, what would this entail? could it cause any problems?
And second, how would i go about doing this? i havent found any guides or anything online, and if it's free power i'd love to take advantage of it.
Thanks

fvillota · 11-08-2009, 07:59 PM

you need a timing gun.
it has to do with moving the dizzy and checking time to the degree you want.
I think the only downfall it has is that the more advance the timing is the higher the rpm at idle is. dosent go up alot but goes up.

lmp9002002 · 11-08-2009, 09:32 PM

Hm. Can the idle be adjusted in any other way? because i think my car already idles a bit high, around like 900-1100...

Sh0ty · 11-09-2009, 09:27 PM

900 isn't terribly high. I cranked my timing up to ridiculous levels and it idled at around 1300 (my compression is crap, so I didn't get any detonation) and then returned it back to 12. Search "high idle" on these boards, it's a popular topic of discussion.

countyboy3188 · 11-09-2009, 09:46 PM

You can idle it back down with the idle screw in the throttle body.

You don't need to have a timing light either. I just turned the distrubitor all the way back torwards the back of the car (advanced it) and brought it back just a hair towards the front. My car never spark knocked or anything like that and I only ran the low octane gas in the 5s.

lmp9002002 · 11-09-2009, 10:40 PM

Hm. i think i might have to try that. Thanks guys

fvillota · 11-10-2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by countyboy3188

You can idle it back down with the idle screw in the throttle body.

You don't need to have a timing light either. I just turned the distrubitor all the way back torwards the back of the car (advanced it) and brought it back just a hair towards the front. My car never spark knocked or anything like that and I only ran the low octane gas in the 5s.

dude.... do it right.. get a gun.

lmp9002002 · 11-10-2009, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fvillota

dude.... do it right.. get a gun.

I know, that's what i was planning on. I make sure when i do things, i do it right.
I used to be into those little 2-stroke 30cc motor scooters and i learned quick what happens if you do stuff half-assed.

Sh0ty · 11-10-2009, 10:58 PM

Try to see if you can find someone with a gun instead of buying one, unless you intend on setting timing frequently...

datguydeni · 11-10-2009, 11:39 PM

or buy and return lol ^_^

fvillota · 11-10-2009, 11:56 PM

where do you live?

lmp9002002 · 11-11-2009, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fvillota

where do you live?

Spring Hill, it's about a half hour north of Tampa.

fvillota · 11-12-2009, 12:45 AM

well try and see if you can find one if not i can send you mine.
i bought it for 30 so u can paypal me 30 and then i'll paypal it back when i recieve it.
like a rental just trying to help out man.

MR2enV · 11-12-2009, 01:00 AM

fvillota, come to my crib so I can put mine at 16..... i live in miramar.....

Levi_ · 11-12-2009, 01:45 AM

The gun is $15 at habor freight, come on ppl...

fvillota · 11-12-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MR2enV

fvillota, come to my crib so I can put mine at 16..... i live in miramar.....

let me know bro. im down i have nothing to do lol

fvillota · 11-12-2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi_

The gun is $15 at habor freight, come on ppl...

lmaooo i know...

lmp9002002 · 11-12-2009, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi_

The gun is $15 at habor freight, come on ppl...

Lol i might be going there soon to pick up some other tools, so ill probably get a timing gun too.
Thanks for the help guys!

fvillota · 11-13-2009, 07:54 AM

np n good luck

Jason.MZW20 · 11-13-2009, 11:00 AM

Before you go off and do this, there's a timing notch on the crank pulley. Use some liquid white out on it and let dry. This let's you see the notch with the gun, since most guns produce a bluish white light. Try to keep it in the notch for accuracy.

11-08-2009, 02:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
lmp9002002 Cage Fighter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 252 Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Advancing Timing I read through the sticky at the top of the forum "things to do when you first get your mr2 NA" and saw a bit in there that said i could crank my timing to 14 degrees. I've also heard i can do 16 degrees if i run on 93 octane. First, what would this entail? could it cause any problems? And second, how would i go about doing this? i havent found any guides or anything online, and if it's free power i'd love to take advantage of it. Thanks

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11-08-2009, 07:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	you need a timing gun. it has to do with moving the dizzy and checking time to the degree you want. I think the only downfall it has is that the more advance the timing is the higher the rpm at idle is. dosent go up alot but goes up.

11-08-2009, 09:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
lmp9002002 Cage Fighter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 252 Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Hm. Can the idle be adjusted in any other way? because i think my car already idles a bit high, around like 900-1100...

11-09-2009, 09:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sh0ty Armchair Racer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Novi, MI Posts: 1,273 Thanks: 22 Thanked 57 Times in 54 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	900 isn't terribly high. I cranked my timing up to ridiculous levels and it idled at around 1300 (my compression is crap, so I didn't get any detonation) and then returned it back to 12. Search "high idle" on these boards, it's a popular topic of discussion.

11-09-2009, 09:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
countyboy3188 got boost?? Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buchanan,GA Posts: 511 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	You can idle it back down with the idle screw in the throttle body. You don't need to have a timing light either. I just turned the distrubitor all the way back torwards the back of the car (advanced it) and brought it back just a hair towards the front. My car never spark knocked or anything like that and I only ran the low octane gas in the 5s.

11-09-2009, 10:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
lmp9002002 Cage Fighter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 252 Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Hm. i think i might have to try that. Thanks guys

11-10-2009, 10:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sh0ty Armchair Racer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Novi, MI Posts: 1,273 Thanks: 22 Thanked 57 Times in 54 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	Try to see if you can find someone with a gun instead of buying one, unless you intend on setting timing frequently...

11-10-2009, 11:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
datguydeni Turquoise not Teal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,492 Thanks: 3 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	or buy and return lol ^_^

11-10-2009, 11:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	where do you live?

11-12-2009, 12:45 AM	#13 (permalink)
fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	well try and see if you can find one if not i can send you mine. i bought it for 30 so u can paypal me 30 and then i'll paypal it back when i recieve it. like a rental just trying to help out man.

11-12-2009, 01:00 AM	#14 (permalink)
MR2enV 21.1 Gigawatts Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/75% )	fvillota, come to my crib so I can put mine at 16..... i live in miramar.....

11-12-2009, 01:45 AM	#15 (permalink)
Levi_ Cage Fighter Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	The gun is $15 at habor freight, come on ppl...

11-13-2009, 07:54 AM	#19 (permalink)
fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	np n good luck

11-13-2009, 11:00 AM	#20 (permalink)
Jason.MZW20 Pig Snout Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Victorville, CA Posts: 1,373 Thanks: 15 Thanked 111 Times in 102 Posts Blog Entries: 6 iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	Before you go off and do this, there's a timing notch on the crank pulley. Use some liquid white out on it and let dry. This let's you see the notch with the gun, since most guns produce a bluish white light. Try to keep it in the notch for accuracy.