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Dreaming of apexes
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Tips and tricks for surviving the HPDE experience
Here are just a few things off the top of my head I think it's valuable for people new to HPDEs to know. Please chime in and let's make a more comprehensive document!
Track newbies; please let us know what you learned when you do finally burst your track cherry and we'll make that available to others also. Just soes ya`all know I have been running HPDEs with NASA Midwest since 2006 and other smaller clubs in the upper midwest since 2003.
I'll add more as I think of it.
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"Inside the car, the world beyond the driver's immediate horizon ceases to exist. Alone with the solitude of his desire, survival sense numbed by the speed, he's outrun the mediocrity of the outside world, slipped the shackles it tries to clamp on us all. He is running free, chased only by a fear of failure, for failure is to risk ejection into the real world." ~Mark Hughes Last edited by Gairloch; 03-17-2008 at 04:59 AM. |
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Very good post.
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Make sure you hit the bathroom before you go out on the track. Especially if you've been drinking a lot of coffee to keep you awake for the long drive to the track in the morning. Having to take a leak when you're driving hard is not good.
Also, make sure your car looks halfway decent or you'll face the wrath of the management. I was told not to come back until I got a paint job! ![]() |
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Good brake fluid and if you're on stock pads, a spare set. The fluid is key though, as once enough heat has been put into the system to cause significant fade, it takes a long time for everything to cool back down.
On that note, you may want to try and park the car for a while when the trackday is *done*, just to let your brakes (and everything else) come back down in temp. *Edit* A few more things: A big golf umbrella to hide under when you're not driving. I think there's a law somewhere that says the amount of shade available at a track is inversely proportional to the power of the sun that day. Duct tape, especially for the turbo guys. It sucks to head home early due to a blown hose. Going around a rad hose or a intake house that's starting to fail with about 10 layers of tape can generally get you through anything... Gloves. Both a nitrile/latex inner layer and a leather outer layer. If you're poking at things, they tend to be either hot, covered in fluids, or both. A container to bleed your brakes into. Glass with a lid that seals, or a bleeder bag from speedbleeder.com. Last edited by adrian_irwin; 03-17-2008 at 07:32 PM. |
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933SGTE
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Great info, guys! Keep it coming!
Greg |
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eyes up and "two feet in"
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Don't bring your 'nice' tools, get the cheap sets from Canadian Tire/Wal-Mart or wherever else. They may still wander off, but this way you aren't going to miss them.
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![]() The rip was about 5 inches long, so I pulled the hose off and wrapped that sucker with half a roll of duct tape, and made it to a Kragen about 10 miles away to buy a replacement hose ![]() |
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Dreaming of apexes
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A trick that I picked up at the track last season. If you have an intercooler hose that keeps popping off you can make it stay in place by spraying hairspray in where it contacts the metal.
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warp rotors, crack them, or "weld/bond" the pads to the rotors could potentially happen |
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Question, I'm getting ready to run at a DE and will be on street tires, Falken RT615 with about 500 miles on them (215/45r16 / 235/40r17 F/R), I have adjustable front camber plates, should I leave them at the street setting or should I go ahead and set them in? Street setting is about -1.5 deg. camber and with them set in, its at least -3 deg. camber.
Of course, I would get better straight line braking on the street setting but better cornering with the track setting. Thanks. Greg |
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run them as is and see how the handling is, your first event you'll be working up to speed
I'd probably aim for neutral or understeer, its safer ![]() |
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I can appreciate how you want to be smart about how you go about things when you are getting started but really start with the car in it's streetable configuration and go from there. This way you won't have any surprises in how the car behaves, you won't run into problems because you're changing stuff just before you stress the hell out of the car and if you treat it as a baseline you can adjust things from there intelligently. Which club are you running with? Have fun and please let us know how it goes! |
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933SGTE
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That's what I needed to know. Thanks a lot, guys!
Greg |
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