Hey Weasy

Luni · 05-15-2007, 03:20 PM

You need one of these

http://www.performancetrends.com/ez_flow_system.htm

baktasht · 05-15-2007, 03:29 PM

OOOOHH! That looks like fun

Weasy2k · 05-15-2007, 05:22 PM

I have access to a nice machine not to far from here

Only a matter of time before i have all 3 heads put on there and compared.

Altho thats a nice little kit

Thanks for the link!

Luni · 05-15-2007, 05:56 PM

Old guy who works with me helped develop that.

He says its as accurate, or more accurate than most professional flowbenches.

You SHOULD get yourself one.

Weasy2k · 05-15-2007, 06:28 PM

Wanna lend me 900?

I really want one of those but until i can get some funding....be tough....

Luni · 05-16-2007, 01:22 PM

Id donate to the cause.

If we could get every active person on this site to donate 5 bux, youd be good to go.

Weasy2k · 05-16-2007, 02:25 PM

haha! I looked at the other stuff on the site...did he make all that? Im interested in several things

Luni · 05-16-2007, 02:26 PM

I know he helped develop and test the flowbench stuff.

Not sure about the rest of the stuff.

I know he knows the guy who runs that site.

Weasy2k · 05-16-2007, 04:37 PM

some good stuff there thats for sure...

I wouldnt mind the flow bench, cam stand and valve spring tester

blackbob · 10-07-2007, 09:48 PM

I'd donate to the cause

Weasy2k · 10-08-2007, 02:12 AM

most of my product sales goes towards getting more and more stuff for the shop...i am eying that flow bench and a couple other things at the moment as well...ahem dyno....cough CNC mill....
:P

Oteck · 10-08-2007, 02:33 AM

hehe cnc mill, i can do alot w/ that. my mind bursting w/ ideas

Weasy2k · 10-08-2007, 04:28 PM

yea there is lots of things i can build with one, just checking my wallet and there aint much in there for any of those

One day

Luni · 10-08-2007, 08:03 PM

Brokeass.

Weasy2k · 10-09-2007, 12:56 AM

im going to poke you in the eye

4v6 · 10-09-2007, 11:42 AM

I built a flowbench recently using similar stuff, works very very well indeed.!

Tested a set of 3vzfe heads and saw 191cfm@10mm lift as standard.
After some fettling i got it to 202 ( 5.7% increase), further fettling saw 218cfm (13%) all with the valves in.
The pi'ece de resistance was 253cfm, but that was on a bare port and radical alterations- not usuable on stock intake parts and flowed crap with the valves in, barely 211cfm.
Still, when you realise the bare port only flows 201 in stock form, 202 cfm with the valves in is a heck of an improvement.

Weasy2k · 10-09-2007, 12:21 PM

So through porting there is a decent gain on those heads? Not bad i will have 5vz-fe numbers VERY soon....

4v6 · 10-09-2007, 02:49 PM

Oh sure Johnny, but dont open them up, theyre big enough already.
d1/d2=optimum port diameter.
In other words 0.8 times the valve size, or in our case 34mm valve/27.2mm for a port dia =~80% or almost exactly 0.8 times the valve diameter and proven time and again to be the optimum for max port velocity.
Others who have had ports opened "as large as possible" or otherwise took out large amounts of material ( the bigger is better crowd) will be disappointed as the port velocity is going to stall; big ports flow slow.
Theyll be looking at a loss all round for a hole the size of the titanic's iceberg in their wallets, not to mention their dynoplots.

Ive done quite a few tests on these heads now and ive found that basically, toyota did it right, they just didnt finesse it like we can.

The total amount of material i removed to get the 202cfm figure was less than 3 grams of material taken out to get the job done.
Ill do some more tests in a while as theres a few unknowns still bothering me, so total flow may go a little higher, and its never going to be huge, but for now im pretty happy with the indicated gains.
How this will work on the 5vz ( got any port photos?) i cant say, but if its anything like the 3vzfe's ports it should respond well.

05-15-2007, 03:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
Luni ST185 Powered SW20 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 2,357 Thanks: 6 Thanked 75 Times in 65 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Hey Weasy You need one of these http://www.performancetrends.com/ez_flow_system.htm

05-15-2007, 05:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,928 Thanks: 34 Thanked 76 Times in 65 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	I have access to a nice machine not to far from here Only a matter of time before i have all 3 heads put on there and compared. Altho thats a nice little kit Thanks for the link! __________________ -Johnny @ Sea2Sky Tuning - www.sea2skytuning.com V6 Motor mounts discontinued, until further notice. Founder of the V6 Engine Stand Club...Join Today! (Or perhaps you are one of those "cool" guys who wants to put his v6 in the car instead. )

05-15-2007, 03:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
baktasht EMSPowered.com Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,604 Thanks: 15 Thanked 88 Times in 78 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (22/100% )	OOOOHH! That looks like fun

05-15-2007, 05:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
Luni ST185 Powered SW20 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 2,357 Thanks: 6 Thanked 75 Times in 65 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Old guy who works with me helped develop that. He says its as accurate, or more accurate than most professional flowbenches. You SHOULD get yourself one.

05-15-2007, 06:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,928 Thanks: 34 Thanked 76 Times in 65 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	Wanna lend me 900? I really want one of those but until i can get some funding....be tough....

05-16-2007, 01:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Luni ST185 Powered SW20 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 2,357 Thanks: 6 Thanked 75 Times in 65 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Id donate to the cause. If we could get every active person on this site to donate 5 bux, youd be good to go.

05-16-2007, 02:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,928 Thanks: 34 Thanked 76 Times in 65 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	haha! I looked at the other stuff on the site...did he make all that? Im interested in several things

05-16-2007, 02:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Luni ST185 Powered SW20 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 2,357 Thanks: 6 Thanked 75 Times in 65 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	I know he helped develop and test the flowbench stuff. Not sure about the rest of the stuff. I know he knows the guy who runs that site.

05-16-2007, 04:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,928 Thanks: 34 Thanked 76 Times in 65 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	some good stuff there thats for sure... I wouldnt mind the flow bench, cam stand and valve spring tester

10-07-2007, 09:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
blackbob wiring....odds and ends Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stationed in Guam Posts: 757 Thanks: 61 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	I'd donate to the cause

10-08-2007, 02:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,928 Thanks: 34 Thanked 76 Times in 65 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	most of my product sales goes towards getting more and more stuff for the shop...i am eying that flow bench and a couple other things at the moment as well...ahem dyno....cough CNC mill.... :P

10-08-2007, 02:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
Oteck Guu Sama! Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,670 Thanks: 8 Thanked 47 Times in 44 Posts Blog Entries: 2 iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	hehe cnc mill, i can do alot w/ that. my mind bursting w/ ideas

10-08-2007, 04:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,928 Thanks: 34 Thanked 76 Times in 65 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	yea there is lots of things i can build with one, just checking my wallet and there aint much in there for any of those One day

10-08-2007, 08:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
Luni ST185 Powered SW20 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salt Lake City Utah Posts: 2,357 Thanks: 6 Thanked 75 Times in 65 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Brokeass.

10-09-2007, 12:56 AM	#15 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,928 Thanks: 34 Thanked 76 Times in 65 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	im going to poke you in the eye

10-09-2007, 11:42 AM	#16 (permalink)
4v6 Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 108 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I built a flowbench recently using similar stuff, works very very well indeed.! Tested a set of 3vzfe heads and saw 191cfm@10mm lift as standard. After some fettling i got it to 202 ( 5.7% increase), further fettling saw 218cfm (13%) all with the valves in. The pi'ece de resistance was 253cfm, but that was on a bare port and radical alterations- not usuable on stock intake parts and flowed crap with the valves in, barely 211cfm. Still, when you realise the bare port only flows 201 in stock form, 202 cfm with the valves in is a heck of an improvement.

10-09-2007, 12:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
Weasy2k 3.4L 10K RPM In the works Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,928 Thanks: 34 Thanked 76 Times in 65 Posts iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	So through porting there is a decent gain on those heads? Not bad i will have 5vz-fe numbers VERY soon....

10-09-2007, 02:49 PM	#18 (permalink)
4v6 Cage Fighter Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 108 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Oh sure Johnny, but dont open them up, theyre big enough already. d1/d2=optimum port diameter. In other words 0.8 times the valve size, or in our case 34mm valve/27.2mm for a port dia =~80% or almost exactly 0.8 times the valve diameter and proven time and again to be the optimum for max port velocity. Others who have had ports opened "as large as possible" or otherwise took out large amounts of material ( the bigger is better crowd) will be disappointed as the port velocity is going to stall; big ports flow slow. Theyll be looking at a loss all round for a hole the size of the titanic's iceberg in their wallets, not to mention their dynoplots. Ive done quite a few tests on these heads now and ive found that basically, toyota did it right, they just didnt finesse it like we can. The total amount of material i removed to get the 202cfm figure was less than 3 grams of material taken out to get the job done. Ill do some more tests in a while as theres a few unknowns still bothering me, so total flow may go a little higher, and its never going to be huge, but for now im pretty happy with the indicated gains. How this will work on the 5vz ( got any port photos?) i cant say, but if its anything like the 3vzfe's ports it should respond well.