Best front for mr2?

[Ncturnal]

Originally Posted by PHOENIX

I will never modify the body of an MR2 ever again. Its a bigger headache than most people think.

No doubt about it. Never, ever, ever again will I do that either. The OP is hard-headed though, rarely takes advice, and you can bet he will eventually wished he had listened.

Originally Posted by $krillz

Maybe the front, but that's probably b/c of the angle of the photo and the way the wheel is turned, the rear however, not at all. and who are we kidding, what happens when you need to remove parts for repairs and stuff?

It sucks. In the 3 or 4 years, I've had to paint a good majority of the car around once a year, and it sure isn't cheap to do so. It has been due a paint job for over 9 months now, but I'm so tired of dealing with it that I've just let it go for the time being. I can buy complete MR2s that I usually make money on for what it costs me to repaint that car.

looks like a lot of hard work and is well done but i don't think it "flows".

No offence to Noctural btw. beautiful car.

None taken. Like I said, I'll never do that again. Give me a stock body MR2 any day.

Originally Posted by PhatBoyMR2

sure it wont flow as well as a stock car does because your comapring a stock body 2 to a modified one but brians car is probaly one of the best looking mr2's ever. Pics really don't do justice but i can tell you right now when you look at the car in eyes view it's one of the best flowing cars you will ever see...

The bodywork is flawless, everything is molded, and the car looks sick. Of course everyone will love the look of a stock mr2 but a clean kit is never a bad option

I don't know what your deal is, but when the owner of said car is saying it's a bad idea, don't do it, one would think you might listen to what they are saying. Telling you now bro, it's a waste of money and you will regret it if you do it.

[black94t]

Originally Posted by Ncturnal

One day when it is next to impossible to find a MR2 that hasn't been ruined with a body kit, you will wish more owners would have left them alone.

the future owner of mine will be pissed. Ruined 94

This picture is a perfect example of what a stock front looks like next to a body kitted MR2, same color:

[black94t]

Originally Posted by Ncturnal

I can certainly say that.



I'll never have a car with a body that modified again.

I dont know what your big deal is with "body kits". Really, most of the items in the poll are trim pieces and can be easily taken down with a flat head screw driver and about 3-6 self-tapping screws. Yeah, I took a sawzall, and cut the steel bumper down on my 94, but the steel bumper can be replaced. And yup, I sold my OE front bumper with my 91. I can easily go out and turn mine back to stock with about $500-$750 if I really wanted to. And after going back to stock, there's NO way to tell it's been altered. Ok, maybe the self-tapping screws, but they can be filled in without issue and it's in the door frame. EASILY to be covered with a plug. To each their own, but there will never be a day in our lifetime when we "run out" of MR2s that havent been "ruined" by "body kits."

Get a grip!

[PhatBoyMR2]

Originally Posted by black94t

the future owner of mine will be pissed. Ruined 94

This picture is a perfect example of what a stock front looks like next to a body kitted MR2, same color:

every time i look at your car it makes me want a border front.

Do you know if you need custom brackets for the fog lights or do they fit?

[black94t]

lol, yep you'll need to figure out how to fix the fog lights. I didnt use brackets, I used construction urethane adhesive and glued them right in. I've had the front end done for over 2 months now and they havent loosened up a bit. GOOD STUFF from your local Lowe's or Home Depot.

EDIT: If I were you, I'd leave yours the way it is. Looks real sharp. That's my 2nd choice for a front end. Aeroware lip. not sure if yours is aeroware, but that lip looks good. and yep you can keep the stock bumper to avoid ruining the car

[MR2TRD1]

This debate is funny to me. The comparisons are interesting...you can't really compare an MR2 w/a bodykit to Brians silver car. There are plenty of cars with bodykits that are done very modest and most people who don't know the MR2 would think its stock. I'm not saying this makes it ok, but in some cases I don't think it hurts anything. I would go back stock if I repainted my entire car...but that would cost too much $ I don't want to spend. My car is a 91n/a chasis w/swap so I felt no sin when I 'kitted' it up. If it was a 93+ I'd probably take a different approach. I do plan to get a 350z or S2K soon....and I'd have to say I'll never buy a bodykit for a future car....maybe a lip...but not a kit.

[richw131]

Originally Posted by black94t

And after going back to stock, there's NO way to tell it's been altered. Ok, maybe the self-tapping screws, but they can be filled in without issue and it's in the door frame. EASILY to be covered with a plug. To each their own, but there will never be a day in our lifetime when we "run out" of MR2s that havent been "ruined" by "body kits."

Get a grip!

Well, I know what I look for in an MR2, and I look for a car that has not been messed with. That especially includes body kits, cutting or drilling of any sort. I am very particular about what I buy and how I like it. If you like cutting your car to pieces just to put an aftermarket piece on, then go right ahead. It is a shame you have done it to a '94+ car, though.

And, you may want to check you last statement about never running out of un-molested MR2's. It is already very hard to find '94+ MR2's that have been taken care of and are stock.

[$krillz]

Originally Posted by richw131

Well, I know what I look for in an MR2, and I look for a car that has not been messed with. That especially includes body kits, cutting or drilling of any sort. I am very particular about what I buy and how I like it. If you like cutting your car to pieces just to put an aftermarket piece on, then go right ahead. It is a shame you have done it to a '94+ car, though.

And, you may want to check you last statement about never running out of un-molested MR2's. It is already very hard to find '94+ MR2's that have been taken care of and are stock.

Here are the canadian figures for mr2's sold in canada. i wouldn't go near any car that was modified. Mr2's are already rare cars so to find one that isn't modified...tough to say the least.

[mr2much]

Originally Posted by $krillz

Here are the canadian figures for mr2's sold in canada. i wouldn't go near any car that was modified. Mr2's are already rare cars so to find one that isn't modified...tough to say the least.

luckily Canadians still have the option to import from Japan. many unmodified ones from there. low kms too.

[black94t]

Originally Posted by richw131

Well, I know what I look for in an MR2, and I look for a car that has not been messed with. That especially includes body kits, cutting or drilling of any sort. I am very particular about what I buy and how I like it. If you like cutting your car to pieces just to put an aftermarket piece on, then go right ahead. It is a shame you have done it to a '94+ car, though.

And, you may want to check you last statement about never running out of un-molested MR2's. It is already very hard to find '94+ MR2's that have been taken care of and are stock.

A shame? lol let's put our cars side by side and take a vote. my car was meticulously detailed and deserves better responses than "shame"

EDIT: It's also what I hate most about being a 94 owner. Responses like these that 94+ is holier than thou makes me wish I was back in a 91 because that's not the attitude I carry. Post a pic of your white car, or give me some links to your pictures. We'll settle this once and for all. I'm in no mood for disrespect today.

[$krillz]

Originally Posted by mr2much

luckily Canadians still have the option to import from Japan. many unmodified ones from there. low kms too.

If you daring enough to drive a RHD. Left-hand turn through an intersection with a car opposite you turning left....pedal to the metal.....

[Saint]

Originally Posted by DavidV

My dispute isn't with the shape or curve of the bumper, which I agree is pretty well integrated with the MR2's lines - I just don't like all the chickenwire up front. I'm just not sure how this improves the OEM chickenwireless look.

-- DavidV

bah, i said that i like the kit, not the chicken wire =P
haha

honestly though, that's one big gripe i have against how the kit's done in this picture. i'd rather leave it open or paint the "chicken wire" black.

[JCrew7i2]

Who cares 94, 91, 95+, 82, 56, whoopdie fricken doo... it's still an MR2... haha....

Personally, I like that black 94 with the border front.... everyone swinging off the nuts of a 93 lip and 94 wing... it's called preference people. It's like the meet here in Cali... 80+ mr2s.... I've never seen so many 93 lips and 94 wings... how "unique" is that? It's like... those with a 91 complaining about "butchering up" a 94... who cares... you've butchered up a 91 by being a wannabe 93/94. You don't see 94+ people complaining about people biting off the "newer" style... works both ways people... in the end, everyone owns just an MR2... woopdie doo.

gla, hf... 3v3 BGH CABLEHOST!!! gogo

[JCrew7i2]

Back to the topic at hand...

Choice:
1. Border (tie)
1. TRD (tie)
3. Air Walker (not optioned)

[goose2580]

Originally Posted by JCrew7i2

Who cares 94, 91, 95+, 82, 56, whoopdie fricken doo... it's still an MR2... haha....

Personally, I like that black 94 with the border front.... everyone swinging off the nuts of a 93 lip and 94 wing... it's called preference people. It's like the meet here in Cali... 80+ mr2s.... I've never seen so many 93 lips and 94 wings... how "unique" is that? It's like... those with a 91 complaining about "butchering up" a 94... who cares... you've butchered up a 91 by being a wannabe 93/94. You don't see 94+ people complaining about people biting off the "newer" style... works both ways people... in the end, everyone owns just an MR2... woopdie doo.

gla, hf... 3v3 BGH CABLEHOST!!! gogo

yea what he said. i think its all about personal choice. and my choice is toms front and side skirts, still undecided for the rear though

[black94t]

Originally Posted by JCrew7i2

Who cares 94, 91, 95+, 82, 56, whoopdie fricken doo... it's still an MR2... haha....

Personally, I like that black 94 with the border front.... everyone swinging off the nuts of a 93 lip and 94 wing... it's called preference people. It's like the meet here in Cali... 80+ mr2s.... I've never seen so many 93 lips and 94 wings... how "unique" is that? It's like... those with a 91 complaining about "butchering up" a 94... who cares... you've butchered up a 91 by being a wannabe 93/94. You don't see 94+ people complaining about people biting off the "newer" style... works both ways people... in the end, everyone owns just an MR2... woopdie doo.

gla, hf... 3v3 BGH CABLEHOST!!! gogo

exactly. I read a lot on this board and the 94+ is soooo coveted. I hear like "I can get X-amount...blah blah because it's a 94". Preference is right, butchering is wrong. Butchering is wrecking the car doing something careless. People think that because they are 91/92/93 they can just do whatever and everything is "OK" but oh no, the high and mighty 94s shouldn't be touched otherwise you'll be shamed. I'm proud of what I did to mine and I'm proud of what the previous owner did to mine. preference? yea, that's why I bought it, but shaming someone after they put countless hours into it strikes a nerve beyond belief. I'd rather him say "eh, I dont like what you've done" rather than say some BS like "if you really cut it up, that's a damn shame."

but point in topic, I think there are more border fans than just 4 . I do agree most people are going to like stock, well because...they are stock

[Ncturnal]

For the record, all of my MR2s at one point were all 94+ (I had 5 94s and 1 95). You really need thicker skin man. No need to get so upset over that comment at all. People diss my car all the time, even in this thread. No need to have it strike a nerve. It's a good thing that there are many that want to preserve the heritage of the latest model MR2s. Years from now, it will be those well preserved cars that will carry the legacy of the MR2, not any of the kitted or modded ones, except in extremely rare cases. I'm not so much of a purist for the 94s, but I whole-heartedly am for the 95. I've turned down the sell of my 95 NA twice because the prospective buyers made the mistake of telling me their plans to do a swap and mod the body. I'll just keep it before I let that happen.

[black94t]

Well for the record, you didnt say anything to disrespect. I just think you're silly for thinking a car can be destroyed because someone swaps a bumper or astrays away from OE looks. Keeping your 95 from being "destroyed" isnt doing anyone (especially toyota) a favor.

oh and there's nothing different between a 95 and 94 LOL.

EDIT:
Is this your car?
http://www.mr2board.com/forums/vbpic...hp?do=view&g=3

LOL.....I'm speechless, if so. do explain your "stock MR2" lectures when you're modded like mad (both engine and body work). that's like Al Gore and his mission towards a cleaner environment when his energy bill is $2500/month. LOL

[ThisCharmingMan]

Originally Posted by Ncturnal

One day when it is next to impossible to find a MR2 that hasn't been ruined with a body kit, you will wish more owners would have left them alone.

Exactly what I was thinking...

[Ncturnal]

Ya, that's one of 10 I presently have. I buy and sell them rather often and I've seen a sharp decline in the number of people who apply quality mods to a MR2 and keep up with the long-term maintenance of them. I run across a lot of hack jobs these days. The availability of quality MR2s is definitely going down. My own car looks like crap because of road wear and tear. It's very expensive for me to maintain in top condition. Sure, it looks fine when everything is nice and clean, but it won't stay that way on a daily driven car. I know the original poster personally and was recommending what I think would be the best option for his situation. If you have the money to do it right and keep it well maintained, then have at it. If that isn't the case, then it will likely end up looking worse than when it was in OEM form. In my experience, body kits don't age well at all and are far less resistant to wear and tear. Having gone over the top with one MR2, I'm quite qualified to offer the perspective I have. If I had it to do over, I wouldn't do it again. In the log run, I don't think it's worth the expense, and ultimately I think most owners that like body kitted MR2s will later come to appreciate the stock examples more, just like I did. I'm just offering my own experience, and what I've noticed in the market and with fellow owners. Buying and selling these on occasion, I know the values of these cars quite well. The well preserved stock examples always bring a better price than the modded counterparts.

EDIT: There is an excellent write-up on the AW11 archive that verbalizes exactly what I'm talking about. It's titled "The death of the AW11 MR2". The same holds true for the MK2. http://shell.deru.com/~sgn1/AW11/AW11.htm