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Davis · 10-20-2009, 11:06 AM

If the rotor is warped, you WILL know. Everytime you brake you will feel a pulsation in the steering wheel.

Oh Christian, sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday. Can't do it today man!

o6spdracer · 10-20-2009, 12:56 PM

^Welcome back Davis!

datguydeni · 10-20-2009, 01:13 PM

yeah nothing on the tire.

mark is there anyway other way the disc brake could be deformed?
Davis would this pulsation get slower as i am almost to a stop? i'll drive around when i head out to school and observe more carefully.

o6spdracer · 10-20-2009, 02:04 PM

If the rotor is warped, you will notice it more when you are braking from a higher speed. Depending on how warped it is, the more you will feel it shake the steering wheel. How old are your rotors/brakes?

**EDIT: Just re-read your post. Is the thumping gone from Frankie's suggestion? Is the steering wheel shaking an additional symptom?

randomxzero · 10-20-2009, 02:07 PM

ya it would deni it would become slower because the disc isnt rotating as fast.. not olnly would you feel it on the steering wheel but you will also feel it on the brake pedal..

Cjung · 10-20-2009, 04:04 PM

umm if the sound of the thumpin is a high pitch sound, it could be the dustpan hitting the rotor...

np Davis, i was kinda busy today also.

datguydeni · 10-20-2009, 04:42 PM

I will check the dustpan since it's all bent, and move it away from the rotors.
to my records i had the brakes done 27k miles ago. but i think we had the rotors resurfaced @ that time as well.

masagsxr · 10-20-2009, 04:58 PM

Deni.. it does not matter if you had the rotors resurfaced 100miles ago.. Improper use of brakes will warp the rotors in no time. (Improper use meaning if you brake hard all the time and lock the wheels).... I know not too long ago you had a post going up/down at Palomar.

datguydeni · 10-20-2009, 05:26 PM

i didn't use my brakes that hard when i was coming down that hill xD i was passing people though. i'd be measuring and examining my rotors and checking pads, and for anything loose.

randomxzero · 10-20-2009, 05:30 PM

yup what mixxer said!... also rotors get easily warped in the rain if your constantly on them hard... take it off and take it to pep boys or something to see if its warped..

masagsxr · 10-20-2009, 06:52 PM

Well, you said 27K miles ago so who knows. Thats a lot of miles on them already. Buy the OEM rotors and maybe it'll last 150K miles before you get this issue again. Thats assuming your rotors are warp. You did say your tires are ok. Have you ever fixed that tie rod end or control arm that bent when you hit the curve? Maybe your wheel hub bearing is mess up and now just showing signs? Are the wheels "true" (meaning straight/balanced)? Bushings are all still good?

mr.asian.m2 · 10-20-2009, 09:03 PM

hey, i got bored last weekend and end up working on my exhaust. i really wanted a new one. maybe from ems powered or the berk exhaust. but, until i get one. i went with the cheap way. which is to redo my exhaust. my exhaust before had 3 layer of paint on them. first two was black. and the last was white. yeah... not fun taking off the paint. then, i also ended up cutting out the back grill where it cover the exhaust.

here is the pic of the before...

and here is the one where i finish with the grill and cleanning off the paint. hope you guys like it. because, it's no turning back. can't glue the grill back on.

sorry...pic was taking from my phone

datguydeni · 10-20-2009, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masagsxr

Well, you said 27K miles ago so who knows. Thats a lot of miles on them already. Buy the OEM rotors and maybe it'll last 150K miles before you get this issue again. Thats assuming your rotors are warp. You did say your tires are ok. Have you ever fixed that tie rod end or control arm that bent when you hit the curve? Maybe your wheel hub bearing is mess up and now just showing signs? Are the wheels "true" (meaning straight/balanced)? Bushings are all still good?

mmm i will be getting a new rotor soon should i change both? mm really do hope it's not the hub was changed not too long ago about 14k miles ago.. The tire has been rebalanced. the Tie rod and control arm have not been fixed. was about to get both for 35$ but the guy was unable to find them. Bushings are still good even on the tie rod, but the control arm bushing is torn i believe..

masagsxr · 10-20-2009, 10:43 PM

Wow Frankie looks good... Did you cut the grill? It does look cleaner tho but I would have kept the grill (just me).

Hhmmmm Ok Deni here is the thing. The more you wait on fixing stuff, the more chances of other things breaking down unless you do not drive the car at all and leave it parked in your garage/driveway LoL. C'mon man..... If you are still driving the car with bad control arm/tie rod it will affect everything else on that side. You're lucky i'm not charging you for free consulting or i'd be so rich right now

... You seem to have the time, read the BGB just for the heck of it.

datguydeni · 10-20-2009, 11:51 PM

it's not like i'm not looking for the parts. seems 93 suspension is hard to source out. i had the car parked in the garage for almost 2 months. then my dad was like drive it or sell it. and thats where i am now. Been sending out PMs and checking both boards everyday for these parts.
and actually no i don't have all the free time in the world. school everyday 8 am to 8 pm

mr.asian.m2 · 10-21-2009, 12:08 AM

man, that suck deni.... have you check parts at xl parts? it's pretty cheap there too. pretty close to oem parts. but, it's true on what mixxer is saying. leave one thing broken and the next parts next to it will soon follow.

mixxer.. yeah i cut the grill. i should of bend it up or something. but, i got lazy to take off the exhaust in order to bend it. it's not like i be using it anymore anyway. when are you planning on getting other 2

datguydeni · 10-21-2009, 12:15 AM

frankie xl parts never heard of it. my scavenging for these parts continue if you know a person parting out a 93 suspension let me know lol
oh btw do you have a higher resolution of the mr2s in a circle want to make it as a wallpaper =P

Davis · 10-21-2009, 12:18 AM

Aww Frankie! Why.

mr.asian.m2 · 10-21-2009, 12:29 AM

deni..i do have better one. give me a few day to fix afew of the photo. and i'll post it all up at once. you guys will love them.

davis...what? you don't like the grill off? i'm not planning on keeping the TRD exhaust. swapping it out with the ems powered or the berk exhaust. i think it look alot better without the grill.

oh..xl parts is kind of like auto zone parts. more alot better and cheaper. guess you guys don't have it in cal. maybe they do shipping too. check around online.

masagsxr · 10-21-2009, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datguydeni

it's not like i'm not looking for the parts. seems 93 suspension is hard to source out. i had the car parked in the garage for almost 2 months. then my dad was like drive it or sell it. and thats where i am now. Been sending out PMs and checking both boards everyday for these parts.
and actually no i don't have all the free time in the world. school everyday 8 am to 8 pm

There is always time to spare my friend... Don't give me 8-8pm... When I was going to school, I started at 7am-2pm then drive my way to LAX and work from 2:30pm-11pm and get home around 12am.... Don't be a biatch and pony up the $$$ and be done with it

.... Again, u hold off on fixing stuff you'll end up spending more to fix another thing.... I think there are so many parts out there and you just don't want to pony up the $$$ you cheap bast'd

.... Your dad is right... Drive the thing or sell it. Give me something to think about and i'll probably take it off your hands.

Frankie: you should have just trimmed it... I actually like how the grill looks how it gives the mr2 a little texture per say.... Well look read up top ^... Deni is freaking crying with all these things and yet dont want to pony up the $$$ to fix the car. So if he gives me a dollar amount maybe i'll steal the car off from him

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10-20-2009, 11:06 AM	#8361 (permalink)
Davis Radical Dreamer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Long Beach, California Posts: 4,536 Thanks: 85 Thanked 125 Times in 113 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	If the rotor is warped, you WILL know. Everytime you brake you will feel a pulsation in the steering wheel. Oh Christian, sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday. Can't do it today man!

10-20-2009, 12:56 PM	#8362 (permalink)
o6spdracer Nothing Clever Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,187 Thanks: 1 Thanked 112 Times in 107 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	^Welcome back Davis!

10-20-2009, 01:13 PM	#8363 (permalink)
datguydeni Turquoise not Teal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,492 Thanks: 3 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	yeah nothing on the tire. mark is there anyway other way the disc brake could be deformed? Davis would this pulsation get slower as i am almost to a stop? i'll drive around when i head out to school and observe more carefully.

10-20-2009, 02:04 PM	#8364 (permalink)
o6spdracer Nothing Clever Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,187 Thanks: 1 Thanked 112 Times in 107 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	If the rotor is warped, you will notice it more when you are braking from a higher speed. Depending on how warped it is, the more you will feel it shake the steering wheel. How old are your rotors/brakes? **EDIT: Just re-read your post. Is the thumping gone from Frankie's suggestion? Is the steering wheel shaking an additional symptom?

10-20-2009, 02:07 PM	#8365 (permalink)
randomxzero 562 Understeer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 562 Posts: 1,171 Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	ya it would deni it would become slower because the disc isnt rotating as fast.. not olnly would you feel it on the steering wheel but you will also feel it on the brake pedal..

10-20-2009, 04:04 PM	#8366 (permalink)
Cjung MR2 Under construction Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,010 Thanks: 13 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	umm if the sound of the thumpin is a high pitch sound, it could be the dustpan hitting the rotor... np Davis, i was kinda busy today also.

10-20-2009, 04:42 PM	#8367 (permalink)
datguydeni Turquoise not Teal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,492 Thanks: 3 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I will check the dustpan since it's all bent, and move it away from the rotors. to my records i had the brakes done 27k miles ago. but i think we had the rotors resurfaced @ that time as well.

10-20-2009, 04:58 PM	#8368 (permalink)
masagsxr Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 3,534 Thanks: 1 Thanked 81 Times in 81 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Deni.. it does not matter if you had the rotors resurfaced 100miles ago.. Improper use of brakes will warp the rotors in no time. (Improper use meaning if you brake hard all the time and lock the wheels).... I know not too long ago you had a post going up/down at Palomar.

10-20-2009, 05:26 PM	#8369 (permalink)
datguydeni Turquoise not Teal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,492 Thanks: 3 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i didn't use my brakes that hard when i was coming down that hill xD i was passing people though. i'd be measuring and examining my rotors and checking pads, and for anything loose.

10-20-2009, 05:30 PM	#8370 (permalink)
randomxzero 562 Understeer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 562 Posts: 1,171 Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	yup what mixxer said!... also rotors get easily warped in the rain if your constantly on them hard... take it off and take it to pep boys or something to see if its warped..

10-20-2009, 06:52 PM	#8371 (permalink)
masagsxr Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 3,534 Thanks: 1 Thanked 81 Times in 81 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Well, you said 27K miles ago so who knows. Thats a lot of miles on them already. Buy the OEM rotors and maybe it'll last 150K miles before you get this issue again. Thats assuming your rotors are warp. You did say your tires are ok. Have you ever fixed that tie rod end or control arm that bent when you hit the curve? Maybe your wheel hub bearing is mess up and now just showing signs? Are the wheels "true" (meaning straight/balanced)? Bushings are all still good?

10-20-2009, 09:03 PM	#8372 (permalink)
mr.asian.m2 SoCal/houston's mr2 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: houston texas Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 55 Thanked 72 Times in 68 Posts iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	hey, i got bored last weekend and end up working on my exhaust. i really wanted a new one. maybe from ems powered or the berk exhaust. but, until i get one. i went with the cheap way. which is to redo my exhaust. my exhaust before had 3 layer of paint on them. first two was black. and the last was white. yeah... not fun taking off the paint. then, i also ended up cutting out the back grill where it cover the exhaust. here is the pic of the before... and here is the one where i finish with the grill and cleanning off the paint. hope you guys like it. because, it's no turning back. can't glue the grill back on. sorry...pic was taking from my phone

10-20-2009, 10:43 PM	#8374 (permalink)
masagsxr Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 3,534 Thanks: 1 Thanked 81 Times in 81 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Wow Frankie looks good... Did you cut the grill? It does look cleaner tho but I would have kept the grill (just me). Hhmmmm Ok Deni here is the thing. The more you wait on fixing stuff, the more chances of other things breaking down unless you do not drive the car at all and leave it parked in your garage/driveway LoL. C'mon man..... If you are still driving the car with bad control arm/tie rod it will affect everything else on that side. You're lucky i'm not charging you for free consulting or i'd be so rich right now ... You seem to have the time, read the BGB just for the heck of it.

10-20-2009, 11:51 PM	#8375 (permalink)
datguydeni Turquoise not Teal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,492 Thanks: 3 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	it's not like i'm not looking for the parts. seems 93 suspension is hard to source out. i had the car parked in the garage for almost 2 months. then my dad was like drive it or sell it. and thats where i am now. Been sending out PMs and checking both boards everyday for these parts. and actually no i don't have all the free time in the world. school everyday 8 am to 8 pm

10-21-2009, 12:08 AM	#8376 (permalink)
mr.asian.m2 SoCal/houston's mr2 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: houston texas Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 55 Thanked 72 Times in 68 Posts iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	man, that suck deni.... have you check parts at xl parts? it's pretty cheap there too. pretty close to oem parts. but, it's true on what mixxer is saying. leave one thing broken and the next parts next to it will soon follow. mixxer.. yeah i cut the grill. i should of bend it up or something. but, i got lazy to take off the exhaust in order to bend it. it's not like i be using it anymore anyway. when are you planning on getting other 2

10-21-2009, 12:15 AM	#8377 (permalink)
datguydeni Turquoise not Teal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,492 Thanks: 3 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	frankie xl parts never heard of it. my scavenging for these parts continue if you know a person parting out a 93 suspension let me know lol oh btw do you have a higher resolution of the mr2s in a circle want to make it as a wallpaper =P

10-21-2009, 12:18 AM	#8378 (permalink)
Davis Radical Dreamer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Long Beach, California Posts: 4,536 Thanks: 85 Thanked 125 Times in 113 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Aww Frankie! Why.

10-21-2009, 12:29 AM	#8379 (permalink)
mr.asian.m2 SoCal/houston's mr2 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: houston texas Posts: 2,660 Thanks: 55 Thanked 72 Times in 68 Posts iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	deni..i do have better one. give me a few day to fix afew of the photo. and i'll post it all up at once. you guys will love them. davis...what? you don't like the grill off? i'm not planning on keeping the TRD exhaust. swapping it out with the ems powered or the berk exhaust. i think it look alot better without the grill. oh..xl parts is kind of like auto zone parts. more alot better and cheaper. guess you guys don't have it in cal. maybe they do shipping too. check around online.