Official SoCal V6 Thread... - Page 5

countyboy3188 · 02-26-2009, 05:28 PM

You could still crank it. It will just blow white smoke everywhere. That way you can see if it knocking. If he is telling you that there is no way to crank it he is trying to scam you. Cause running it too hot will kill the bottom end and warp those aluminum heads.

Davis · 02-26-2009, 05:33 PM

Yeah I found an es300 a couple months back with a blown head gasket and the guy wouldn't let me crank it so I didn't buy it.

countyboy3188 · 02-26-2009, 05:34 PM

yup it is a common problem for the 3vzs to blow head gaskets. We have two Camrys at the shop now with them blown.

datguydeni · 02-26-2009, 05:44 PM

whats the redline on a 3vz?

Mark_Dorman · 02-26-2009, 05:46 PM

the redline or fuel cut off? They'll run up to 7200 rpm before the fuel cut off.

Hey Andrew...the guys said it's been sitting for 3 years so I'm guessing the gas is unstable and the battery is dead I'm sure...So should I just take a battery with me and see if it starts up?

datguydeni · 02-26-2009, 05:50 PM

hearing clips of v6 makes me want to drool lol xD but yet again it's either their exhaust or intake..

countyboy3188 · 02-26-2009, 05:53 PM

Yea take one with you and maybe a few gallons of good gas. It should still run on bad gas but it may skip and sputter running with it but still try to crank it to see if it has rod knock.

With it sitting that long he probably couldn't tell you how long or how hot they ran it. So cranking would def be something i would want to do if I were buying it.

Mark_Dorman · 02-26-2009, 05:55 PM

K...I'll just take a battery with me and ask him over the phone if he'll let me crank it...

Hey Denny...the V6 makes a much different exhaust note that an I4 because of the number of cylinders and the bank angle.

masagsxr · 02-26-2009, 06:36 PM

Knocking = full rebuild needed = don't buy it?

not knocking = just replace head gasket = ok to buy?

Mark_Dorman · 02-26-2009, 06:55 PM

Gotcha...for $300 though you can't really go wrong. Anyone wanna come with me to look at it???

masagsxr · 02-26-2009, 07:07 PM

Oh my question was to countyboy..... just verifying.... but yeah even with that other than the price, wouldn't you want to rebuild the whole thing anyway and do it right?

Mark_Dorman · 02-26-2009, 09:40 PM

At the moment I don't really care. Half the challenge is just getting it in and figuring everything out. I'd rather do it in steps. So I wanna get a working/running V6 in the car and work out any bugs and maybe smog it if I can. Then I will build another V6 on the side that I will swap in later with a LSD tranny...

masagsxr · 02-26-2009, 09:46 PM

Oh.. forgot you already got it all figured out.... Let's pickup the camry already

Mark_Dorman · 02-26-2009, 09:51 PM

I'm working on it. Gotta get the red car running first then I'm gonna go check it out next thursday. I'll take an extra car battery with me so I can try and crank it and check for rod knock...praying that he didn't ruin the engine by running it too hot

masagsxr · 02-26-2009, 09:53 PM

Or just bring a jumper cable and jump it to the car ur bringing.

Mark_Dorman · 02-26-2009, 09:56 PM

Brilliant...but if the battery is completely dead it's gonna take a while...

countyboy3188 · 02-27-2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masagsxr

Knocking = full rebuild needed = don't buy it?

not knocking = just replace head gasket = ok to buy?

Yea with out it knocking all you would need to do is replace the head gaskets and resurface the heads.

With it knocking full rebuild and it could get expensive. So if it needed the full rebuilt he would probably be better off buying the motor from the junk yard or looking else where.

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02-26-2009, 05:28 PM	#81 (permalink)
countyboy3188 got boost?? Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buchanan,GA Posts: 511 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	You could still crank it. It will just blow white smoke everywhere. That way you can see if it knocking. If he is telling you that there is no way to crank it he is trying to scam you. Cause running it too hot will kill the bottom end and warp those aluminum heads.

02-26-2009, 05:33 PM	#82 (permalink)
Davis Radical Dreamer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Long Beach, California Posts: 4,536 Thanks: 85 Thanked 125 Times in 113 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Yeah I found an es300 a couple months back with a blown head gasket and the guy wouldn't let me crank it so I didn't buy it.

02-26-2009, 05:34 PM	#83 (permalink)
countyboy3188 got boost?? Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buchanan,GA Posts: 511 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	yup it is a common problem for the 3vzs to blow head gaskets. We have two Camrys at the shop now with them blown.

02-26-2009, 05:44 PM	#84 (permalink)
datguydeni Turquoise not Teal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,492 Thanks: 3 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	whats the redline on a 3vz?

02-26-2009, 05:46 PM	#85 (permalink)
Mark_Dorman So long MR2's... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 4,666 Thanks: 97 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (26/100% )	the redline or fuel cut off? They'll run up to 7200 rpm before the fuel cut off. Hey Andrew...the guys said it's been sitting for 3 years so I'm guessing the gas is unstable and the battery is dead I'm sure...So should I just take a battery with me and see if it starts up?

02-26-2009, 05:50 PM	#86 (permalink)
datguydeni Turquoise not Teal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,492 Thanks: 3 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	hearing clips of v6 makes me want to drool lol xD but yet again it's either their exhaust or intake..

02-26-2009, 05:53 PM	#87 (permalink)
countyboy3188 got boost?? Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buchanan,GA Posts: 511 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (6/100% )	Yea take one with you and maybe a few gallons of good gas. It should still run on bad gas but it may skip and sputter running with it but still try to crank it to see if it has rod knock. With it sitting that long he probably couldn't tell you how long or how hot they ran it. So cranking would def be something i would want to do if I were buying it.

02-26-2009, 05:55 PM	#88 (permalink)
Mark_Dorman So long MR2's... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 4,666 Thanks: 97 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (26/100% )	K...I'll just take a battery with me and ask him over the phone if he'll let me crank it... Hey Denny...the V6 makes a much different exhaust note that an I4 because of the number of cylinders and the bank angle.

02-26-2009, 06:36 PM	#89 (permalink)
masagsxr Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 3,534 Thanks: 1 Thanked 81 Times in 81 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Knocking = full rebuild needed = don't buy it? not knocking = just replace head gasket = ok to buy?

02-26-2009, 06:55 PM	#90 (permalink)
Mark_Dorman So long MR2's... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 4,666 Thanks: 97 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (26/100% )	Gotcha...for $300 though you can't really go wrong. Anyone wanna come with me to look at it???

02-26-2009, 07:07 PM	#91 (permalink)
masagsxr Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 3,534 Thanks: 1 Thanked 81 Times in 81 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Oh my question was to countyboy..... just verifying.... but yeah even with that other than the price, wouldn't you want to rebuild the whole thing anyway and do it right?

02-26-2009, 09:40 PM	#92 (permalink)
Mark_Dorman So long MR2's... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 4,666 Thanks: 97 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (26/100% )	At the moment I don't really care. Half the challenge is just getting it in and figuring everything out. I'd rather do it in steps. So I wanna get a working/running V6 in the car and work out any bugs and maybe smog it if I can. Then I will build another V6 on the side that I will swap in later with a LSD tranny...

02-26-2009, 09:46 PM	#93 (permalink)
masagsxr Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 3,534 Thanks: 1 Thanked 81 Times in 81 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Oh.. forgot you already got it all figured out.... Let's pickup the camry already

02-26-2009, 09:51 PM	#94 (permalink)
Mark_Dorman So long MR2's... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 4,666 Thanks: 97 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (26/100% )	I'm working on it. Gotta get the red car running first then I'm gonna go check it out next thursday. I'll take an extra car battery with me so I can try and crank it and check for rod knock...praying that he didn't ruin the engine by running it too hot

02-26-2009, 09:53 PM	#95 (permalink)
masagsxr Cage Fighter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 3,534 Thanks: 1 Thanked 81 Times in 81 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Or just bring a jumper cable and jump it to the car ur bringing.

02-26-2009, 09:56 PM	#96 (permalink)
Mark_Dorman So long MR2's... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 4,666 Thanks: 97 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (26/100% )	Brilliant...but if the battery is completely dead it's gonna take a while...