ssautochrome t3/t4 any good?

[hmong337]

I'm looking at this entire thing as "hp per dollar". A stock ct26 rebuild costs like $400-$500. You got this kit for about that much. If it makes more power (which I'm sure it will off the 8psi wastegate), than it's a winner. If it makes more hp after the appropriate mods and last atleast a season of daily use- even better!


... cheap, fast, reliability. Maybe we can have it all this time? haha

[nodla]

is 8psi on a t3/t4 = 11ish psi on a ct26 (air volume that is)

[canadam]

Will you consider engine repairs due to catastrophic failure in your $/hp calculation?

Originally Posted by hmong337

I'm looking at this entire thing as "hp per dollar". A stock ct26 rebuild costs like $400-$500. You got this kit for about that much. If it makes more power (which I'm sure it will off the 8psi wastegate), than it's a winner. If it makes more hp after the appropriate mods and last atleast a season of daily use- even better!


... cheap, fast, reliability. Maybe we can have it all this time? haha

[Adrians89MR2SC]

haha, damn .. mr2gq was telling me that it felt like that ..

sounds good to me ..

my friend said he has a t3/t4 garrett turbo lying around, he doesnt know $hit about anything so he only wants $50 for it .. if it is actually a garrett t3/t4 that isnt trash then i might pick it up and keep it as a back up ..

almost got the two metal pipes off .. my distributor wires (underneath, there 4 or 5 small ones on the harness) are covered in oil and all freyed ..

anyone know how to fix it, is there a seal in the distributor that goes out? .. i hope i can get a new pigtail b/c it looks like mine is screwed ..

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by canadam

Will you consider engine repairs due to catastrophic failure in your $/hp calculation?

still don't know if that will happen... if it does, than the kit is garbage. everything is still speculation.

[Sylvan]

If the engine fails due to improper tuning, I don't think you can fault the kit for that. That's more of an operator error.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

yea, im gonna keep it in low boost and not get on it much untill i can tune it ..

then ill get it on a dyno, tune it and see what kinda #'s it puts down ..

[mr2gq]

YOU GET UR **** DONE YET FOOL?

[Adrians89MR2SC]

lol .. naw mr2gq

ive had to take half of the damn motor apart to get to those metal water lines .. and even then the little nut at the bottom, i cant get to it with a wrench or socket .. so the oil cooler has to come off

and my distributor is leaking oil and the connector wires are messed up .. so i just got back from toyota, parts get here wednesday

and i gotta order a dist. rebuild kit from twosrus.com ..

i should have the turbo kit on wednesday night or thurday .. would of been today, but my mr2 hasnt been cooperating lately ..

[Adrians89MR2SC]

well heck, if thats the case ill try to get a boost controller and gauge soon after i get the kit installed ..

i want to run 8 psi for the first few hundred miles (wont be long since i do about 500 miles / week), then ill turn it up to 12 or so when i get a guage, boost controller, and fcd

i was thinking that the afm might compensate since the motor doesnt run off a map sensor for the ve table / spark table in the computer like my 91 camaro does .. but i wasnt sure ..

might not take it over 12 psi untill i get a safc and some dyno time .. what would be the maximum psi for a stock motor / hg / internals .. 18-20 or so?

[Adrians89MR2SC]

ive seen some things about a "break in" period for the ebay turbo's .. but someone might of just made it up

i just want to make sure the turbo doesnt grenade on me and throw blades into the engine (or would the intercooler catch big pieces?)

neways, sounds good about the tuning ..

if i go to a dyno, would they have a wideband i could screw in to a extra plug on the downpipe or do they have a probe like emmisions testing?

[Sang]

Originally Posted by Adrians89MR2SC

all my friends at college go to the dyno days, and that dynomax dyno tour thing comes to summit .. its around $45 for two dyno pulls ..

Uncorrected dynojet numbers please.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

lol, have yall seen that video of the turbo blowing up on a dyno .. alot of people say it was ssac, but the owner swears its a name brand .. haha ..

i know the ssac turbo probably wont last anywhere near as long as a garrett turbo, but i just need it untill i get some more $$$$ in a couple months .. (graduate high school next month and i got a job waiting for me at a collision repair shop)

should have the car done by the end of this week, then if it holds up ill take it to a dyno pretty soon ..

[jdchmiel]

actually, XS power / SSAc is a few min ffrom raleigh NC ( where i live) but it is pretty impossible to figure out where and to tak a tour.. tthey also will not let you pick items up as they make $$$ from chipping charges on many items. The only product I ever considered ordering rom them was a ct26 to t3 adapter, but i found a nice CNC'd piece on the board instead. No mo 3sgte vehicles for me though. I cant wait to see some results. Curious, what are the t3/t4 specs? t3/t4 could be a 25 lb/ min turbo or it couldd be a 65+ lb / min turbo.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

kblake - when i get it dyno'd ill be sure to do that

jdchmiel -

the specs of the turbo are on the ss website, but this is what they say and the .50 and stuff are stamped onto the turbo and the plate on the turbo says t3/to4e on it

.50 A/R Compressor / .63 A/R Turbine side

.57 Trim

3.00" Inlet

2.00" Outlet

[shimric]

Install pictures? If you've made it that far.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

Originally Posted by shimric

Install pictures? If you've made it that far.

if you actually read any of this thread you'd see im waiting on some parts from toyota and twosrus.com .. i havent even gotten to the installing the turbo yet ..

should have it installed and pics up by the weekend if my mr2 decides to cooperate for a change ..

[Adrians89MR2SC]

ok ..

got my parts from toyota today .. all the o-rings and gaskets for the oil cooler, hfh, and hfhoa

took the oil cooler off, looks like the o rings were about to give out .. they were covered in oil

got it all apart .. just cleaning it up and about to put on the new gaskets and stuff for those two metal pipes leading into the water pump ..

should have it all together tommorow night or friday .. then whenever my twosrus distributor rebuild comes then ill crank it up and see if anything leaks or blows up ..

[jdchmiel]

would it be possible for you to measure the diamter off the compressor and turbine wheels at both the inlet and outlet of them? Inducer/exducer is the term..
Therre are many charts online with these measurements, which would help ddetermin what wheels were cloned to make the turbo.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

umm .. i gotta clock the compressor housing around so maybe i can take it off to measure real quick ..

compared to the stock turbo the ssac t3/t4 is about 1/2" bigger .. the inlet is 3" (where the filter hose connects) and its doesnt get reduced as much as the ct26 does before reaching the inducer on the compressor side ..

so ill probably clock it tommorow and see if i can get those measurements for ya

i do remember seeing something around 2.5" and 3" somewhere (for the compressor side) .. but dont remember where i saw those #'s so they may not be right even though they sound about right