3S-GTE USDM Turbo Engine Apexi Power FC or AEM EMS?

ZachAttack · 02-23-2008, 06:53 PM

Which would you go with and why?

Bak@EMSPowered · 02-23-2008, 07:17 PM

I'd say take a look at the Hydra Nemesis. It is a much more complete standalone setup than either the AEM or PowerFC. And the support from RickyB at MRControls is unbeatable. Check it out at Welcome To MR Controls

ZachAttack · 02-23-2008, 07:23 PM

Funny, as you were typing that I was looking them up. It looks quite nice.

Do you know if ATS is familiar with them?

RickyB · 02-24-2008, 01:26 AM

What kind of 3S motor do you have? Power FC works with gen3 and AEM works with gen2. The Nemesis is the only system that is plug and play compatible with both.

ZachAttack · 02-24-2008, 06:25 PM

JDM Gen 2 currently. Thanks for that info, I haven't read that anywhere yet. I will be going with the Nemesis for sure, it is the better option for the MR2 from what I can see.

Bak@EMSPowered · 02-25-2008, 09:16 AM

good choice

kblake · 02-25-2008, 04:00 PM

ATS has a lot more experience with the AEM. There are only a few tuners that work with the Nemesis.

RickyB · 02-25-2008, 07:47 PM

Steve Kan at Gotham Racing in Watauga is just a few miles from you and is fully factory trained on the Nemesis.

ZachAttack · 03-02-2008, 03:55 PM

That's good to know, Watauga is closer to me than Denton. Appreciate the info.

hmong337 · 03-02-2008, 05:22 PM

i heard this ems is the best kept secret... Haltech E8 PNP for MR2 Turbo Haltech_E8_3SGTE [] - $1,375.00

kblake · 03-02-2008, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachAttack

That's good to know, Watauga is closer to me than Denton. Appreciate the info.

The question is, does he have any 3SGTE experience?

Ken

HKSmr2rbo · 03-02-2008, 06:10 PM

how does the nemesis compare to the haltech?

kblake · 03-02-2008, 06:48 PM

The Haltech is not plug and play. The Nemesis, AEM, and Power FC are, depending on what Gen engine you are running.

hmong337 · 03-02-2008, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kblake

The Haltech is not plug and play. The Nemesis, AEM, and Power FC are, depending on what Gen engine you are running.

refer to post 10. it is now pnp with a base map.

HKSmr2rbo · 03-02-2008, 09:52 PM

yea after seeing post #10....haltech is looking very nice with the pnp option.

ZachAttack · 03-02-2008, 10:12 PM

It's cheaper, and comes with the MAP sensor......cool.

What other differences would there be between it and the Nemesis? Losing anything going with the Haltech?

Bak@EMSPowered · 03-03-2008, 03:59 PM

The Nemesis comes will al the sensors you need, including the intake temp sensor which is fairly important, and a built in MAP sensor. Not sure what the Haltech comes with. Other than that, I'm sure you can find feature lists of both on their respective websites to compare.

ZachAttack · 03-04-2008, 02:54 PM

Doesn't seem to be as much info on the Haltech....

turbomr21987 · 03-04-2008, 03:10 PM

I am running an AEM and am more than pleased with it, from what i hear dynotechs is that there is not a stand alone that is as good.
I do hear great things about the power FC and my freind with an SR is running that and more than pleased with that.
The problem with the nemesis and the main reason that i did not go with it is becasue not many tuners are familiar with it. you have to find a dynotech that knows how to tune that well(i do not personally know any)

ZachAttack · 03-04-2008, 03:43 PM

I think RickyB posted a factory trained guy a few posts up....and is closer to me than ATS....like 10 minutes away. The Nemisis looks like the way I'm gonna go.

Thanks guys, I appreciate the help

02-23-2008, 06:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
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02-23-2008, 07:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bak@EMSPowered Banned Seller Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 30 Thanked 193 Times in 165 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/93% )	I'd say take a look at the Hydra Nemesis. It is a much more complete standalone setup than either the AEM or PowerFC. And the support from RickyB at MRControls is unbeatable. Check it out at Welcome To MR Controls

02-23-2008, 07:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
ZachAttack I want a rocketpak Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 278 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	Funny, as you were typing that I was looking them up. It looks quite nice. Do you know if ATS is familiar with them?

02-24-2008, 01:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
RickyB Automotive Cartographer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Posts: 221 Thanks: 0 Thanked 122 Times in 33 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	What kind of 3S motor do you have? Power FC works with gen3 and AEM works with gen2. The Nemesis is the only system that is plug and play compatible with both.

02-24-2008, 06:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
ZachAttack I want a rocketpak Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 278 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	JDM Gen 2 currently. Thanks for that info, I haven't read that anywhere yet. I will be going with the Nemesis for sure, it is the better option for the MR2 from what I can see.

02-25-2008, 09:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bak@EMSPowered Banned Seller Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 30 Thanked 193 Times in 165 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/93% )	good choice

02-25-2008, 04:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	ATS has a lot more experience with the AEM. There are only a few tuners that work with the Nemesis.

02-25-2008, 07:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
RickyB Automotive Cartographer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Posts: 221 Thanks: 0 Thanked 122 Times in 33 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	Steve Kan at Gotham Racing in Watauga is just a few miles from you and is fully factory trained on the Nemesis.

03-02-2008, 03:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
ZachAttack I want a rocketpak Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 278 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	That's good to know, Watauga is closer to me than Denton. Appreciate the info.

03-02-2008, 05:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
hmong337 Emperor Jspec Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,123 Thanks: 114 Thanked 56 Times in 55 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	i heard this ems is the best kept secret... Haltech E8 PNP for MR2 Turbo Haltech_E8_3SGTE [] - $1,375.00

03-02-2008, 06:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
HKSmr2rbo Some Skills Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 149 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	how does the nemesis compare to the haltech?

03-02-2008, 06:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
kblake MR2 Parts Expert Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 812 Thanks: 14 Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	The Haltech is not plug and play. The Nemesis, AEM, and Power FC are, depending on what Gen engine you are running.

03-02-2008, 09:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
HKSmr2rbo Some Skills Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 149 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	yea after seeing post #10....haltech is looking very nice with the pnp option.

03-02-2008, 10:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
ZachAttack I want a rocketpak Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 278 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	It's cheaper, and comes with the MAP sensor......cool. What other differences would there be between it and the Nemesis? Losing anything going with the Haltech?

03-03-2008, 03:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
Bak@EMSPowered Banned Seller Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 30 Thanked 193 Times in 165 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (49/93% )	The Nemesis comes will al the sensors you need, including the intake temp sensor which is fairly important, and a built in MAP sensor. Not sure what the Haltech comes with. Other than that, I'm sure you can find feature lists of both on their respective websites to compare.

03-04-2008, 02:54 PM	#18 (permalink)
ZachAttack I want a rocketpak Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 278 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	Doesn't seem to be as much info on the Haltech....

03-04-2008, 03:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
turbomr21987 marketing Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: fort wayne IN Posts: 192 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I am running an AEM and am more than pleased with it, from what i hear dynotechs is that there is not a stand alone that is as good. I do hear great things about the power FC and my freind with an SR is running that and more than pleased with that. The problem with the nemesis and the main reason that i did not go with it is becasue not many tuners are familiar with it. you have to find a dynotech that knows how to tune that well(i do not personally know any)

03-04-2008, 03:43 PM	#20 (permalink)
ZachAttack I want a rocketpak Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 278 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader Rating: (3/100% )	I think RickyB posted a factory trained guy a few posts up....and is closer to me than ATS....like 10 minutes away. The Nemisis looks like the way I'm gonna go. Thanks guys, I appreciate the help