3SGTE: 2nd Gen MR2 Turbo Intercoolers

[Sang]

I went to the site...and both have 4 hardpipes...I don't know what your looking at?

[PXEVOMR]

Sorry you're right. I looked at the first pic and didn't see the additional hard pipes. Then another question... why the heck is the "SUPER" intercooler cheaper than the regular one? What's the difference?

[wags70ss]

What is the price on each one? I bought one off ebay that looks EXACTLY like the Greddy - same dimensions same size ports, & everything, for $150. Its a "no-name" brand, but I have no doubt it will work for 90% of Gen 2 mr2's on the street. Most guys cant afford to produce enough horsepower to need a super high flow intercooler, so unless you like spending tons of money just to have the "cool name" on your car, the no-name intercooler is probably going to work for you.

I'm not knocking the name brands. They are great intercoolers, but just like all import parts, when a name becomes popular, or "cool" they suddenly want a ton of money for their product. So you are paying for the "name" not the part.

If you are going to make 500+ WHP then I would go with a name brand. Most guys dont have 6-12 thousand dollars to sink in a motor to produce that much HP.

Even the "no-name" intercoolers like I bought are an improvement over stock, so if you are building a car for the street & doing some minor mods to it to get an extra 100 HP or so, I would suggest the more affordable no-name intercoolers, unless you have got money to burn, or you can find a good used name brand one. Good luck, I've been loking for 3 months & haven't found one yet.

Thats my 2 cents, & I'm not talking through my hat, I have almost 30 years of expirience as a mechanic!

Thanks! Later, Dudes!

[MR2SW22]

Originally Posted by wags70ss

What is the price on each one? I bought one off ebay that looks EXACTLY like the Greddy - same dimensions same size ports, & everything, for $150. Its a "no-name" brand, but I have no doubt it will work for 90% of Gen 2 mr2's on the street. Most guys cant afford to produce enough horsepower to need a super high flow intercooler, so unless you like spending tons of money just to have the "cool name" on your car, the no-name intercooler is probably going to work for you.

I'm not knocking the name brands. They are great intercoolers, but just like all import parts, when a name becomes popular, or "cool" they suddenly want a ton of money for their product. So you are paying for the "name" not the part.

If you are going to make 500+ WHP then I would go with a name brand. Most guys dont have 6-12 thousand dollars to sink in a motor to produce that much HP.

Even the "no-name" intercoolers like I bought are an improvement over stock, so if you are building a car for the street & doing some minor mods to it to get an extra 100 HP or so, I would suggest the more affordable no-name intercoolers, unless you have got money to burn, or you can find a good used name brand one. Good luck, I've been loking for 3 months & haven't found one yet.

Thats my 2 cents, & I'm not talking through my hat, I have almost 30 years of expirience as a mechanic!

Thanks! Later, Dudes!

good advice i say.

[phzoinkMKII]

Haven't seen this one in the thread yet so here you go.

[wags70ss]

That intercooler is for all out race applications. Very nice, but almost $2000! Is this one for sale?

[phzoinkMKII]

I found it on Ebay a few days ago. If you are interested here is the link:

eBay Motors: JDM 91-99 SW20 MR2 Turbo Blitz Biggest Intercooler Kit (item 260166098032 end time Oct-30-07 12:22:21 PDT)

[Sang]

Originally Posted by wags70ss

That intercooler is for all out race applications.

What part about that blitz setup would constitute it as an "all out race application", please enlighten me.

[wags70ss]

Becuase it is twice the size of the "normal" intercooler! And as I said, $2000. To much $$$$ for the average street driven car.

By the way - A WARNING TO ALL! - the guy selling it is a massive jackass! I bought 4 items from him. The total weight of all 4 was about 50 pounds. He absolutly REFUSED to give me any kind of a discount on shipping! He wanted $165 to ship those 4 items! DO NOT BUY FROM HIM! HE IS A JERK! I told him to stick it! This is proof right here. He wants $185 to ship it + $10 for insurance! He's on crack! Dont buy, unless you like paying his rediculous shipping fees! Heck, I can buy that intercooler NEW for a couple hundred buck more - but WHY, I'm not making 1000 WHP.

He's a RIP OFF!

[Sang]

Originally Posted by wags70ss

Becuase it is twice the size of the "normal" intercooler! And as I said, $2000. To much $$$$ for the average street driven car.

Umm...no. If anything it is slightly bigger than your typical SMIC, but it is most definitely NOT twice the size of "normal" intercoolers. If it was twice the size, it would not fit in the stock location. There is only so much area to work with. The blitz kit is merely two smaller cores put together.

He wants $185 to ship it + $10 for insurance! He's on crack! Dont buy, unless you like paying his rediculous shipping fees!

It cost me $70 to ship a singly oil line out across the pond, NOT including customs/VAT's. I don't see how it's so outrageous to charge $185 for a package that is most certainly bigger and heavier than the oil line I shipped out.

And this thread is neither the time or place for making a grievance about a seller, it's sole purpose is to discuss intercoolers.

I'm not making 1000 WHP.

You will not make 1000whp out of any SMIC A2A in the stock location, I still don't see how you justify that kit as a "race only" kit...

[UMjaxman]

HEY PHOENIX, whoops caps, ummm the picture of the core you have for the arc intercooler is wrong, that one is an hks intercooler and the hks intercooler is just a generic picture. arc has the same "core" but has different endtanks with inlet and outlet on top like the stock intercooler

[TreyMR2]

Originally Posted by Sang

You will not make 1000whp out of any SMIC A2A in the stock location, I still don't see how you justify that kit as a "race only" kit...

I haven't seen many if any people making more than 450-500hp with the SMIC, much less a A2A. Most people seem to go with the A2W trunk mount pretty early if they plan on making anything over 250-300hp over stock.

[TreyMR2]

Originally Posted by wags70ss

Becuase it is twice the size of the "normal" intercooler! And as I said, $2000. To much $$$$ for the average street driven car.

size isn't the only thing important with a intercooler, location makes the biggest difference. Just because its $2000 doesn't make it full race. I've seen tons of over priced crap. You can get a trunk mount for a 1/4th of that price thats way more efficent.

[Sang]

Originally Posted by TreyMR2

I haven't seen many if any people making more than 450-500hp with the SMIC, much less a A2A. Most people seem to go with the A2W trunk mount pretty early if they plan on making anything over 250-300hp over stock.

There is at least one person that converted an old-school greddy A2A SMIC to an A2W core. Rev-6 made an A2W in the stock location as well. Neither of them post on the boards, MikeJC (Rev-6/Rogue Time attack car) posts a little more on IMOC.

If money allowed, i'd be tempted convert my greddy core to an A2W...purely because resale value of the "brand name" greddy kit has plummeted since all these replicas came about, and the money i've already put into it making it complete "kit".

[Tre001]

Full Race Makes a very nice kit more air flow

[SnowRocker88]

Not in existence but I modeled it up, it's an idea I had since we MR2 owners are working with limited space...

[timthapimp2000]

Custom WRX intercooler i made!!!

[MR2SW22]

[QUOTE=timthapimp2000;255929]Custom WRX intercooler i made!!!

not to bad looking but... like my 90 all-trac your gonna get major heat soak, even more so than i did cause i had a scoup letting air hit the IC at high speeds, how do you keep this one cold?

[timthapimp2000]

I have the engine cooling fan pointed at an angle where the stock ic used to be and as you can see in the pic the engine lid right above it is cut out.Also i have a 3" DP instead of the big ass stock cat bein right off the manifold holdn all the heat. Actually ive notice though when i get on it my engine temp guage goes down sometimes because the air is being forced though the ic soo fast,not to metion how thick the wrx ic is compared to the stock one.

[Sang]

Originally Posted by timthapimp2000

Also i have a 3" DP instead of the big ass stock cat bein right off the manifold holdn all the heat.

Stock elbows have heatshields to hold the heat in, and no tubular downpipe does (excluding the greddy cast downpipe for the td06 and t67).

Originally Posted by timthapimp2000

Actually ive notice though when i get on it my engine temp guage goes down sometimes because the air is being forced though the ic soo fast