3SGTE: ssautochrome t3/t4 any good?

[jdchmiel]

if it all goes to hell and you want a great sized turbo for a street mr2, i have a 40 trim t3/to4e i could let go.

[doctreetop]

22 pages later and you relized how crappy it is. hahah i knew this was going to be an epic thread.

[canadam]

What a pain this must have been, the SSAC kit has actually got you to the point where you're thinking of selling all your MR2s.

Oh well, there'll be another thread in a few months about how someone doesn't believe the 'hype' and is going to give an eBay turbo kit a chance because most likely it's everyone else who is wrong

[Adrians89MR2SC]

Originally Posted by doctreetop

22 pages later and you relized how crappy it is. hahah i knew this was going to be an epic thread.

actually it still works, it was my fault that the metal shavings are in there .. i forced on a IC pipe and scraped off some intercooler metal .. and the oil burning is me putting on too big of a oil supply line ..

so for now the kit is still good .. should have it fixed tonight, so ill let yall know if it is still burning oil after i install the 3an line .. its a heck of alot smaller than the 4an .. so that should stop me burning oil ..

as for the t3/t04e .. how much do you want for it .. send me a pm ..

the only reason i am "thinking" of selling all my mr2's and cars (camaro) is because every single car i have had has needed something fixed on a regular basis .. and ive had over 15 cars in the last couple years .. its just common sense that instead of keep spending hundreds of dollars and hours of time fixing crap to go out and get me a new car with a warranty ..

im going to look at a few options this weekend and selling all my cars is the plan whether the ssac kit is crap or not .. i dont mind putting $3000 into a good turbo kit when i get the money, but i dont have the time to keep fixing crap .. and dont tell me that a 17 year old car is reliable and will never need fixing .. also if i have a warranty, then i can yell at someone to fix the pos and they will give me a good car to use in the mean time ..

if i do end up selling all my cars .. later on when i got a house, new car, etc .. then ill probably buy me a nice mr2 turbo since i LOVE the car .. it just the situation im in at the moment .. in college and graduating highschool with a job lined up ... i dont have the time or money for it right now ..

as for the 89 mr2 sc .. i hate that thing with a passion .. its a awsome car with coilovers, custom 12" brakes, new paint, low miles, brand new motor with less than a mile on, and it still wants to drain my wallet without giving anything in return .. so i will definitly be selling that ..

[jdchmiel]

oil line size from 4 to 3 wont fix over oiling by itselff.. if it says you need a restrictor, you definately need the restrictor...

[Adrians89MR2SC]

Originally Posted by jdchmiel

oil line size from 4 to 3 wont fix over oiling by itselff.. if it says you need a restrictor, you definately need the restrictor...

funny you say that b/c i just finished putting it on and IT WORKS ..

it says use a restrictor OR a 3an line on most of the honda forums ..

also .. if you blow threw a 4an .. then a 3an .. it restricts it considerably

if anything she spools up a little faster now ..


so .. if she keeps goin and doesnt break too often then im probably going to keep my 91 turbo for now .. i'd rather have this car than a new car that isnt good looking / fast and have to pay around $300 / month for ..

[Adrians89MR2SC]

oh .. just if anyone was wondering ..

it was around $28 for

2 foot 3an line (female ends)
1/8" npt to 3an 90* fitting
4an to 3an reducer

all the parts were from summit racing .. i got them last night ..

so less than $30 and 30 minutes to fix the problem .. we'll see if the oil seals hold up, or i guess ill try the rebuild kit next ($30 on ebay for a name brand t3/t4)

[ixtlann]

Dyno? i still wouldnt do it on my 1995 turbo..... i mean the fitment and what the mani looks like after some heat cycles is just ass.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

yea .. as soon as i get a job and have the money ill be getting a kit from ko racing and possibly rebuilding the whole motor and get a lsd tranny

if i could afford a 95 mr2, then i think i could of got a better kit .. so i dont blame you there ..

i definitly dont recomend the kit for a high performance / racing application .. but for a cheap replacement and slight performance / daily driver application, then it would work just fine ..

[shimric]

cliff notes? Too much typing.

Did the SSAcrap fail as expected or not.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

Originally Posted by shimric

cliff notes? Too much typing.

Did the SSAcrap fail as expected or not.

i thought the turbo crapped out on sunday .. found metal in the IC pipes, and it was blowing white-blue smoke (oil) out of the exhuast

turns out that the metal was from me forcing on the cold pipe and scraping some metal off the intercooler ..

and the 4an oil supply line supply too much oil / pressure to the turbo for the chinese oil seals, so they started leaking

i put on a 3an line and everything has been fine for the last 50 miles ..

checked the shaft play, its still the same as when i got the turbo 400-500 miles ago .. and it spools just before 3000 rpm ..

thats a summary of what has happened over the last couple pages ..

[shimric]

oh, and here I was messaging everyone on my aim list that it blew!

[Adrians89MR2SC]

i thought it was fudged .. got really pissed before i let it cool down to check it .. but just turned out to be that i had to big of a oil line on there ..

looked at alot of honda forums and they say if you use a 4an or over the ssac turbos will blow the seals pretty fast, so it has to be a 3an or have a restrictor (.060" i think)

but i fixed it, and i think the turbo spools faster now that it is getting the right amount of oil instead of too much oil / pressure ..

[kercha83]

from what i heard just the -3 alone and shorter than 3 foot line still is too much for these turbo. I heard alot of people running a .060 orifice oil restrictor with alot of luck. I am getting a oil restrictor for mine and its a .060 orifice.

Originally Posted by Adrians89MR2SC

i thought it was fudged .. got really pissed before i let it cool down to check it .. but just turned out to be that i had to big of a oil line on there ..

looked at alot of honda forums and they say if you use a 4an or over the ssac turbos will blow the seals pretty fast, so it has to be a 3an or have a restrictor (.060" i think)

but i fixed it, and i think the turbo spools faster now that it is getting the right amount of oil instead of too much oil / pressure ..

[Adrians89MR2SC]

aight .. ill look for a restrictor and get one .. ill keep an eye out for burning oil ..

right now its a 2 foot line .. so ill see how long it lasts

[ixtlann]

That should help it spool faster also, according to corky bell in his book maximum boost, the 2 significant forces a turbo needs to over come to spool are, the weight of the turbine, and excess oiling on the journal bearings. I ran a restrictor on my old acura also. even on name brand turbos you can have this problem though it may take longer to make itself apparent.

Originally Posted by Adrians89MR2SC

i thought it was fudged .. got really pissed before i let it cool down to check it .. but just turned out to be that i had to big of a oil line on there ..

looked at alot of honda forums and they say if you use a 4an or over the ssac turbos will blow the seals pretty fast, so it has to be a 3an or have a restrictor (.060" i think)

but i fixed it, and i think the turbo spools faster now that it is getting the right amount of oil instead of too much oil / pressure ..

[Adrians89MR2SC]

i figured forcing too much oil into the turbo would slow it down some ..

just drove it 35 miles to college, no smoke and its running awsome right now .. just the timing belt making a slight rubbing noise, but nothing serious .. just being picky

i think the restrictor on the ebay turbo's is necessary since the clearances inside are probably not as good as a name brand turbo's .. there is a slight shaft play from the factory, maybe just a tad more than it should be .. but its very little

[ixtlann]

Originally Posted by kercha83

from what i heard just the -3 alone and shorter than 3 foot line still is too much for these turbo. I heard alot of people running a .060 orifice oil restrictor with alot of luck. I am getting a oil restrictor for mine and its a .060 orifice.

iirc thats the same orfice sice reccemnede dall over honda tech if ur suing and an4 line to ur brand name turbos, back i the day when they were hard to find we just go the smnallest restriscto meant for a gauge or sumthing and then drilled it to .060 easy enuff

[mr2magic]

what?

[Adrians89MR2SC]

Originally Posted by mr2magic

what?

is that for mr. spellchecker above .. or to the fact that i thought my car was screwed, but turned out to be a simple oil line being to big