3SGTE: ssautochrome t3/t4 any good?

[farvaric]

Originally Posted by Sang

I still have yet to see anything proven. Granted, you can't really F up an exhaust (even though SSACrap still managed to do with with misaligned tips). But thus far, the only documented data done on the ebay crap is from RickyB's AIT datalogs showing that the ebay kit is heatsoaking at meager power levels during his tuning session. That doesn't seem to go well with proving the SSACrap is a good product.

which kit? turbo, intercooler, exhaust? i believe there is data on the turbo/kit all over this thread thatis data of sorts demonstrating successsful power gains, just because it doesnt do it as effectively as the next kit does not discount it as having some rate of success.

Unfourtunately I have not seen data driectly correlating back to the exhaust, but there are plenty of apps laying down power using the exhaust system.

There is data that I have seen online in relation to the potential of the IC kits, however I dont knwo where exactly (it was at random), however this is a case where I will say :if he is running it, so will I..."

there are many admirable members running the ebay IC's.

[farvaric]

Originally Posted by baktasht

Sounds like you didnt read my post.

seems like you forget your posts

I guess any way you can get a advertising punch line in, eh, what's to worry, i said i would still buy products from you

are any of the components of your kit made in china, what is the quality of the steel, what are the welds like, what method, we can go all day.

Not saying your product is crap, i think it is a great alternative, but you are missing the point I am making to you and your business practices. trash talking competitor product (whether bad or good) and pointing fingers when that finger can be pointed at you is a little silly. Let alone CALLING OUT your customers who have supported you by buying your products (both chinese and american grown), is appauling. I mean, just look at this awesome conversation we are havijng, i just told you i bout 2-3 products from you and you are going off the handle on me......(me buying products = a customer).

In regards to data you have not seen and people crying running scared cause it broke is actually folks just giving up on you. Sad isnt it. Any form of actual data that could have been had is gone because of someone having a big head or being high handed.

[Bak@EMSPowered]

Originally Posted by farvaric

are any of the components of your kit made in china, what is the quality of the steel, what are the welds like, what method, we can go all day.

Did you read my post? The downpipe for our turbo kit is 100% made in the USA, using quality USA made 304SS and 1/2" thick 304SS USA made flanges that will never crack or rust. All tig welded using only the best materials. The braided SS oil lines are also 100% made in the USA using fittings and crimps that are also made in the USA. The custom fittings we use are custom machined in the USA. The SS turbine housing we make is made in the USA. The rest of the turbo is Borg Warner and made in Germany. Do you see China anywhre in there? No. Read. Do research. Then post.

Originally Posted by farvaric

I mean, just look at this awesome conversation we are havijng, i just told you i bout 2-3 products from you and you are going off the handle on me......(me buying products = a customer).

So just because someone buys something from me, I should side with them and say that chinese turbos are good? Dude, they're NOT! They're absolute garbage. Not so-so. Not somewhat okay. ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. I'm not arguing with you. I'm not telling you not to buy one, buy whatever you want, but if you do go the route of a chinese turbo kit, you WILL regret it when it blows. And it will blow. And when it does, it may take your motor with it. Period. There's nothing to discuss. It seems like you're just looking for an arguement.

Again, the only chinese made parts we sell are the 3" exhaust and the 3" CT26/CT20b downpipe. We check and test fit every single one of the downpipes before they ship, and we have a solid manufacturer that we buy from for the exhausts. They are both parts that fit AFTER the turbo and will not cause any engine damage if they fail. We have been careful with our selection of manufacturer on these 2 parts and do our own additional quality control. We have not had any failures as of yet in the 2 years we've been selling them, and we also warranty them for LIFE.

Again, read my post, and stop arguing.

[farvaric]

Originally Posted by baktasht

Did you read my post? The downpipe for our turbo kit is 100% made in the USA, using quality USA made 304SS and 1/2" thick 304SS USA made flanges that will never crack or rust. All tig welded using only the best materials. The braided SS oil lines are also 100% made in the USA using fittings and crimps that are also made in the USA. The custom fittings we use are custom machined in the USA. The SS turbine housing we make is made in the USA. The rest of the turbo is Borg Warner and made in Germany. Do you see China anywhre in there? No. Read. Do research. Then post.


So just because someone buys something from me, I should side with them and say that chinese turbos are good? Dude, they're NOT! They're absolute garbage. Not so-so. Not somewhat okay. ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. I'm not arguing with you. I'm not telling you not to buy one, buy whatever you want, but if you do go the route of a chinese turbo kit, you WILL regret it when it blows. And it will blow. And when it does, it may take your motor with it. Period. There's nothing to discuss. It seems like you're just looking for an arguement.

Again, the only chinese made parts we sell are the 3" exhaust and the 3" CT26/CT20b downpipe. We check and test fit every single one of the downpipes before they ship, and we have a solid manufacturer that we buy from for the exhausts. They are both parts that fit AFTER the turbo and will not cause any engine damage if they fail. We have been careful with our selection of manufacturer on these 2 parts and do our own additional quality control. We have not had any failures as of yet in the 2 years we've been selling them, and we also warranty them for LIFE.

Again, read my post, and stop arguing.

my arguement was to watch how you call people out before you put your foot in your mouth, which you have. i know you are saying that chinese turbos are garbage, but you have made a direct reference to people on this thread and that reside within this communitty, that was wrong and hypocritical of yourself based on past statement you yourself have made in this post and other posts on other forums, its hypocritical.

The point being, dont shoot yourself in the foot cause people can read and take notes. MR2oc has a lot of ebay threads that you part take in

I am personally frustrated to see a vendor calling people out or talking down to them about what they can afford to buy or not and saying things are crap when they sell them.

You should read or your own post...

Originally Posted by baktasht

"It won't help. Most of these guys that buy this cheap chinese junk will continue to do so and when things break, they won't post about them simply because they're embaressed. Eventually they'll either save up and do it right, or they'll scrap the car and sell it off to some other individual who will have to deal with the cheaply done modifications.".

sounds a lot like you are referring to multiple parts doesnt it as well as calling out folks. Want me to bring up a post you made when you first got started and people were calling you out on why you sell "chinese crap" and your humble response was simply summed up around, ...guys, not all of us can afford the top end expensive parts...this is a great alternative...?

What happened to that "Baktash"? I guess you get your customers and say screw off when you are done, like you are here.

I am not trying to argue with you, I am simply suggesting that you take a seat and re-analyze your strategy here to not screw yourself over from your humble beginnings

[Bak@EMSPowered]

Originally Posted by farvaric

my arguement was to watch how you call people out before you put your foot in your mouth, which you have. i know you are saying that chinese turbos are garbage, but you have made a direct reference to people on this thread and that reside within this communitty, that was wrong and hypocritical of yourself based on past statement you yourself have made in this post and other posts on other forums, its hypocritical.

The point being, dont shoot yourself in the foot cause people can read and take notes. MR2oc has a lot of ebay threads that you part take in

I am personally frustrated to see a vendor calling people out or talking down to them about what they can afford to buy or not and saying things are crap when they sell them.

You should read or your own post...



sounds a lot like you are referring to multiple parts doesnt it as well as calling out folks. Want me to bring up a post you made when you first got started and people were calling you out on why you sell "chinese crap" and your humble response was simply summed up around, ...guys, not all of us can afford the top end expensive parts...this is a great alternative...?

What happened to that "Baktash"? I guess you get your customers and say screw off when you are done, like you are here.

I am not trying to argue with you, I am simply suggesting that you take a seat and re-analyze your strategy here to not screw yourself over from your humble beginnings

You're really looking to start an arguement here. YES, the people that buy these cheapo chinese turbo kits do NOT post about the catastrophic failures for the most part. There are TWO people from this thread alone that have contacted me already after their chinese ebay turbos have failed to purchaes our turbo kit and we've only been selling our kit for about 2 weeks now. I'm certain that the trend doesn't stop there. It's not an insult to anyone, it is just the way things are. And I'm not putting anyone down with the things I'm saying,j I'm simply stating the facts to warn newcomers away from these turbos that are truly nothing but junk. There will always be the small handful of people that have recently stepped into turbo cars and they want cheap power, and they'll buy this junk, and eventually they ALWAYS realize their msitake. Sometimes that means a blown turbo, other times that means a blown motor.

There's no change in my attitude from my "humble beginnings" as you say. I never supported and will never support these chinese knockoff turbos that have caused so much economical and emotional damage to auto enthusiasts over the years. They are and will continue to be junk. If you think you have found some quote from somewhere with me supporting this junk somewhere in the past, feel free to post a link to it, because that just isn't something I'd ever support.

I'll say it again. I'm not putting anyone down. Simply warning newcomers to stay far far far FAR away from these knockoff turbos and turbo "kits". Either stay stock, or save up a couple hundred bucks more and do it right the first time. Otherwise you WILL spend more later to fix your mistakes. Period.

[DrWonderEyes]

perhaps you should say "turbo's from China are bad" and not "chinese turbo's are bad" lol since we are trying to be Politically Correct.

that was a DrWonderEyes Grammar Lesson!

stay tuned on the spell checker lesson!

[DrWonderEyes]

Originally Posted by kblake

From the mr2-interest mailing list:

eBay - XSPower Reviews & Guides

i've read those comments. but suffice to say. i think its a hit or miss with you purchase those "turbo's from china" because at the track the other day. this guy turbo's his Probe with the Mazda V6 in it. and had one of those t3/t4 "turbo's from china" and ran nothing but consistent 12's and only paid 140 dollars for it shipped to his door.

now i wouldnt buy that for myself. too risky. but he got 2 of them. from what he was telling me. one of the turbo's sucked in a rag he forgot to take out when he was working on the engine bay. he managed to pull it out the turbo didn't get damaged and he has that other t3/t4 turbo on his friends Mazda MX6. same turbo setup.

so call it as u see it. maybe he got lucky with that "turbo from china" but none of us will take that chance lol.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

dang .. its been a while since ive been on here ..

got about 12000 miles on the kit and still running strong


got a pretty good paying job now at a body shop as a painter .. so maybe I'll be able to get it to a dyno and see some #'s one weekend


the motor is a little worn out .. so if I dont buy a new car by summer I'll probably end up building the mr2 up which will mean goodbye ssac kit and hello a good name brand kit


again I only bought the kit as a replacement for my stock turbo .. and its lasted over 12000 miles so far and still works just fine ... should have over 15K miles on it by summer since I drive 80 miles to work and back every day


anyone else using the kit had any problems with it?

[Adrians89MR2SC]

Well just got home with my new 07' Nissan 350z .. so the mr2 has to go


any offers?

1991 Turbo w/ cloth seats (black / dark grey)
162K miles
clean interior
clean exterior
13K on new waterpump, hoses, timing belt, tensioners, and ssac turbo kit
new rear tires (one of them blew so I got new for the back)
front tires have around 15K miles on them


any more questions just email me at adrianmullins@bellsouth.net


and for something to drool over -

[DrWonderEyes]

sellout!

[Adrians89MR2SC]

haha

the mr2 is alot of fun but for driving to work and back in rush hour traffic and having cops follow me everywhere b/c im red and turbo'd wasnt fun at all ..

plus having a nice paycheck each week .. its nice to have a fully loaded 350z to get in and go home at the end of the day .. its just as quick, yet alot more comfortable and less noticible

[farvaric]

how dare you sir, how dare you i say.

you arent even keeping it in the same family, go return that and pick up a new Camry SE.

Well, i may be taking the MR2 to a whole new level, thinking about dropping 7 grand into it. It will be dropped into the ENTIRE car though, looks and everything, so not just engine work :-)

[kblake]

So, yet another person starts a thread about how they are "pioneering the chinese kit for the community, and will post dyno results" and then gets rid of their MR2 before ever doing so. This thread ended up exactly as I predicted.

I like 350Z's. They fit perfectly in my rear view mirror.

[DrWonderEyes]

^^ true. 350z are nothing.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

speed wasnt any reason I bought the Z .. I got my built 91 camaro for that


the only reason I got my 350z was for going to work and back comfortably and be reliable

the mr2 is fun and all but dont have the time, tools, or money upfront to rebuild it the way I would want to .. (allready rebuilt my 89 supercharged mr2 and 91 camaro z28 the way I've wanted to .. dont want to dump all that money into another car thats old)

maybe I'll get a nice one later on ... but for now its gotta go

as for hp numbers .. its probably runnin anywhere from stock to 250hp at 12psi .. not much more than that, feels like alot but it isnt .. the 350z doesnt feel fast at all but it hits 60 alot quicker and seems effortless compared to a loud ass 4 banger screaming down the street

ya'll can say what you want .. none of you would of bought the kit anyways if it made 500hp b/c it still would of been "chinese ****"


all I needed was my chinese piece of crap to take place of the stock one which blew .. and its done that .. $400 turbo kit has lasted almost 15000 miles and still runs fine

[NycMr2]

Originally Posted by kblake

I like 350Z's. They fit perfectly in my rear view mirror.

owned.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

Originally Posted by NycMr2

owned.

wow .. your cool

your right .. I'm gonna go take my 350z back

I loved having barely working a/c .. cloth seats .. water dripping on my shoulder through the t-tops when it rains .. an aching left leg after 2 hours of rush hour traffic last friday .. and all the rattles, shakes, bumps, etc from a 18 year old car ..

not to mention a 320 hp car is alot slower than a 220hp car .. I mean come on a 350z doesnt even have a turbo from the factory .. it cant be fast .. why didnt I think this through

[DrWonderEyes]

its all good man.

the only thing i can say bout nissan... is they haven't abandoned making sporty cars. which is more than i can say about tree hugging toyota.

oh well.

[kblake]

Originally Posted by DrWonderEyes

its all good man.

the only thing i can say bout nissan... is they haven't abandoned making sporty cars. which is more than i can say about tree hugging toyota.

oh well.

I see you haven't heard about the new Toyota/Subaru joint effort.

[DrWonderEyes]

nothing as far as i know has come out of that partnership.

and i really dont think any toyota enthusiast are gonna think a toyota with a boxer engine is a real toyota.