3SGTE: ssautochrome t3/t4 any good?

[Adrians89MR2SC]

yea .. I've noticed that toyota doesnt have any real "sports cars" on the market right now


but if the new mr2 was anything like the mk2 turbo mr2 I'd be all over it .. I thought I saw something a couple months ago about toyota was supposed to be developing a new mr2 since the mk3 is sorta down for power and goofy looking (wouldnt catch me driving one)

heck if they just made the mk2 again with updated technology it'd be one hell of a car

as for my nissan .. gotta give it to them .. the vq35hr v6 in my 07 350z is one hell of a motor for not having a turbo

320hp (306 by the "new" standards)
dual over head cam (four total)
dual throttle bodies
dual intakes
variable intake AND exhaust cam timing
4 valves per cylinder
(almost) equal length headers from the factory
dlc coatings on pistons and cam lobes
the crank is "caged" into the block on this new design for greater strength
(read somewhere nissan might turbo this engine in a future car)

and theres tons more .. but anyways ..

would be nice to see a new mr2 that has the looks of the mk2 and power of a modern designed engine .. might have to trade in the Z for that

also want to know what happened to toyota's big diesel truck that was supposed to come out .. the sema prototype looked awsome with the yellow interior and HUGE diesel engine

[shimric]

Originally Posted by Adrians89MR2SC

heck if they just made the mk2 again with updated technology it'd be one hell of a car

The American car manufacturers are doing it, I don't see why the Japanese manufacturers can't do the same. Toyota for the better part of 10 years has been all about fuel economy and a bit of style. It's be awesome to see them come back with a Modernized MK2 MR2 or even the dyno queen mk4 poopra. One can only dream and keep their fingers crossed. But from looking at their concept cars, no one in the design/engineering dept. even cares about this.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

Originally Posted by shimric

But from looking at their concept cars, no one in the design/engineering dept. even cares about this.

Thats why I went to nissan for a "new" car and not toyota

Only toyota I'd buy today would be the tundra b/c you can get the trd supercharger for over 500hp / tq bolt on with a warranty .. but I wanted a car so yea

[Adrians89MR2SC]

SOLD ..


sold it monday .. still got my spare 3sgte if anyone wants to buy it in the ATL area ..

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by Adrians89MR2SC

SOLD ..


sold it monday .. still got my spare 3sgte if anyone wants to buy it in the ATL area ..

just would like to thank you for taking on the ssac turbo kit. too bad we'll never know how far that turbo can be pushed. oh well.

good luck with your new 350z. they're nice cars.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

Originally Posted by hmong337

just would like to thank you for taking on the ssac turbo kit. too bad we'll never know how far that turbo can be pushed. oh well.

good luck with your new 350z. they're nice cars.

sure thing .. I'm sure I'll know how far the turbo will go .. the guy who bought it is going to run the hell out of it .. so as soon as he emails me pissed off that it blew up we'll know

so far it has 14K miles on it ..

the car was starting to burn oil .. now whether that has to do with the motor or turbo I dont know .. I'd say the engine since it was starting to knock slightly every now and then .. the turbo still boosted VERY well ..

the last day I had the car .. I cleaned it up, topped off the oil, warmed it up and thrashed it down the street with the boost controller turned up to about 16psi or so .. I'm gonna miss that feeling for a while .. it was pretty dang quick for a stock mr2 with a $400 turbo kit

also there are about three other people that have taken on the kit here too .. so hopefully they'll chime in and possibly get some #'s

the 350z is awsome .. but miss my manual tranny .. but a shift kit should fix that in the next couple weeks .. but morning traffic makes up for it

hopefully I'll find a nice turbo mr2 later on .. but for now it had to go

still got my 89 mr2 sc though .. it has been a project for over 3 years .. hopefully I can get it done and have fun with it

[mmaxrossixx]

this is the reason y i left the 240sx scene knock off parts suck

[Adrians89MR2SC]

the guy I sold the car to blew the engine ..

seems like the piston rings finally took a $hit .. but the turbo is still kickin

I think he got it rebuilt and either sold the car since he just had another kid, or he's still got it .. who knows


I sure miss that 3sgte though .. got my supercharged 89 mr2 running and im very tempted to swap in the 3sgte later this year or early next year after I work out all the bugs

[mr2_mk1.5]

I know this post is a little old but I purchased the ss autochrome kit last year when I did my mk1.5 swap. The kit was a little on the shoddy side but a few more dollars for some decent parts(bolts and oil lines and fittings) the wastegate was quite the interesting affair but it seemed to work as well as a internally wastegated T3. The only other problem I ran into was that a 1.5" spacer was needed between the turbo and header. I was running 25psi with almost no creep the only problem was that I opted to run a recirc blowoff and the only one I had was the stock one and it blew apart and went through the compressor wheel, other then that it was a good kit. I also know a guy with a RB26 skyline running a ssautochrome kit with no complaints.

[3SGTE-RHD]

After reading most of the pages in this thread. I think up to page 42, I decided to leave a response.

It looks like the SSAC kit is a decent replacement / minor upgrade kit. I also find it hilarious that some people, even without any experience, will sit there and hate on the kid. Just pure hate. And it's also funny how at first it was "it will never last X amount of miles", then once it did it was like, "uh, ok, then I need to see dyno numbers or else it doesn't count!" On a dyno, it probably wont be as good as a name brand t3/t4 turbo. High PSI is great, good spool time is important, but does this turbo push the same Xlb/min of air as another name brand expensive t3/t4 turbo? I am willing to bet that it will not, but for $400 for a whole kit and <$200 for the turbo, you can't expect it to. I for one am impressed for the amount of usage that the kit has seen and withstood. I put on maybe 5000kms a year on my summer only cars.

I also read something about a CT26 turbo lasting 68,000 miles. That is fine, but how many aftermarket turbos from any company last 68,000 miles? There is a huge difference in reliability / longevity when comparing OEM to Aftermarket. It's like saying an ACT 2600 clutch has to last at least 80,000 miles or else it's no good. When infact, it wont last anywhere near as long as the OEM clutch would.

Regardless, nothing but respect to the OP for posting a quality thread with pictures and updated information / product listings.

I, myself, will never run an SSAC kit. Not because of company reputation, or name brand recognition. I prefer to stay within the few companies I trust and like for turbos. Toyota's CT20, Forced Performance, or Comp Turbo. It is just out of pure preference.

[farvaric]

i forget if supershannon posted his dyno, but here it is, it is on a 5sfe, but pretty good idea of the turbo capabilities (but not the exact same platform) just figured i would add for anyone viewing that makes it to this page :-).


99 5sfe 100% stock longblock
t3/4 "57" trim ebay special turbo @ 11psi
460cc injectors
HUGE fmic
3" turbo back exhaust
SSQV BOV
SAFCII for tuning
93 octane

[farvaric]

and here is other run at 16.7psi

16.7 psi
100% stock longblock 5sfe
ebay special t3/t4 and 3s manifold adapter
tial 38mm wastegate with open dumptube
460cc injectors
safc neo for tuning..tuning done by presure2
3" turbo back exhaust
3" intake
50/50 race/pump fuel (sunoco 110, and 93 pump)

[nutty1]

wow..thats awesome for ebay turbo....that 99 stock long block sure is strong !

[farvaric]

yea, he has ran it that way for some time now, but i think at the lower setting mainly, dont remember.

I planned on getting mine dynoed on my MR2 but then went on a business trip for the entire summer in the Philippines, funny how 3 weeks turn into 3 months. Been a great season, VTV breaks and both my slave and master cylinders went out. But repairs are being made and just waiting for a new/used VTV or just gonna go ahead with an aftermarket arrangement.

So hopefully next season I can drive out to a reliable dyno (nearest one is probaly around 2-3hrs away) in order to get some pulls in and see what it does on the 3sgte's. I can say it pulls very well at top end at 12psi, more so than my ct26 at 16psi, but that is the butt dyno.

I just think with all the info it would seem to be a safe bet to say that this is a kit that lasts (all of us running the NEW XS Power/SSAC kit have not run into issues as of yet), really does not require anything more than a slightly adjusted oil feed line with a .060" restrictor and return line (again, newer kit), and will produce good power and ET's.

I would agree with everyone though in the end, we DO need to fill those last two gaps as far as power on a 3sgte MR2 and run it at the track

I would say that the odds are favorable to it performing well in both categories though if you add all the feedback from folks running it.

[nutty1]

did they use the obd II computer for the 99 longblock?

[farvaric]

not 100% sure, but i belive so with tuning on the neo.

[farvaric]

well, i finally made it back from a 5 month business trip in the Philippines. I took a week vacation to catch up with "house chores" and worked on the car.

Finally, fiiiinnnnnaaaaaallllly solved my boost issues. had to remove all the pre intercooler pipes and couplers and ended up redoing and fabbing a new hotpipe and slapped on the BOV. doing so removed two couplers and two potential spots for boost leaks.

Before solving the boost leak issue we discussed around end of last year thinking it was rather a boost leak (likely candidate) or the ignition system. At that point i had checked and rechecked the couplers and pipes and changed all ignition pieces with the exception fo the distributor rotor and cap.

Ordered the cap and rotor while still on my trip and installed it when i got back to NY. Ended up that wasnt the issue, so i took all the pipes out and fabbed up a new hotpipe, installed new couplers. three days of checking each piece and the car is kicking ass!

now that the kit is fully installed and all "user errors" removed, i can say that the kit pulls hard like i remember it on the original install day and it holds peak psi on the WG spring. with boost leak gone and the ignition pieces replaced, the car runs smooth, strong and consistent.

I am going to replace the boost gauge i have in the car as of now with a newer one, after that is tested i will put the MBC back in and rack the boost on this 47 trim back up to 12psi and have fun.

I can say that the car at 8psi on this turbo is equivilant to running the car at 16psi on the ct26 with all my other upgrades based on the butt dyno. it breaks my tires loose in second just as much if not more so :-D

12-14psi on tis trim should max out safe levels with fueling on the stock system, will try to get some videos up on my blackberry just so you guys can see more of it.

In the end, i would say this is an excellent kit if you are in a situation where you have to take everything off to replace Hoses From Hell or if you have to replace your turbo or other components on the hot side that require manifold removal.

if you are looking at JUST staying at or within the stock fuel limits, get an ATS CT27 and call it good, however this kit does cost less (i emphasize initially) and has more power potential if you decide to go piggy back and upgrade your fuel to handle it.

THere are plenty of great options out there for powers beyond, again ATS has their TD06's and KO has their SB's. I guess my point is not to sway anyone either way and not to say this kit is better not worse than any of those but more to just say it like it is.....if you are thinking about getting the kit for wahtever reason, i say get it without worry, you wont regret the purchase. Can you find better, depends on what better is to you (ie: cost, quality, performance, ect.) but there is always something better ;-)

I would say I am a happy owner and would encurage anyopne to take on this particular kit i as well as the others on here purchased, do NOT buy the older adapter based kit....it sucks, this is made specifically for the MR2 in relation to mounting. My summary of why i am an addvocate:

- 2 years on with no issues outside of finding the boost leaks
- paid $500 shipped
- spent only an additional $100 to get better return line and fittings (you will need to get apropriate restrictors (.060 and a -3an line for the oild sending line and you are good to go, this is the most important piece to get or your will blow your seals) and all ood to go
- turbo manifold has not cracked after two seasons of me beating on it
- makes good power (yes i must get a dyno still, one step closer, but there are honestly other not so legal options to compare this setup vs. my older ct26 setup that has every bolt on and jdm ecu)
- can/will max out and exceed power limits beyond the fuel system
- all main components are solid and well built (again, this kit)

order my other pieces, put them in and raise boost back up to 12psi and take it to the nearest dyno or dyno session near Syracuse and let you know what I get :-)

Thanks guys and to everyone that helped on troubleshooting on this thread as well as the other i started.

PS: Nice to be back home!

[killerkid08]

thats sounds awesome, especially since any comparable power kit costs four to five times as much, just wish you weren't the only good case.

[farvaric]

Originally Posted by killerkid08

thats sounds awesome, especially since any comparable power kit costs four to five times as much, just wish you weren't the only good case.

I'm not

There were actually 4 of us on this specific thread that had this specific kit with very positive experiences. There were also 2-3 others that had the turbo as well as a combination of other parts. one of them had it dynoed with great results on a 5sfe iirc (i even posted the dyno for it in here).

Definitely not saying that this is the one and only kit to get and forget everything else, definitely not saying that at all. I am just saying it is actually a good kit for my experience and not just for the money :-)

All in all, it will and can max out stock fueling. plan to get my new pieces order and put in to press it back up from the WG 8psi to 12psi (that was so much fun). Iirc, KBlake thinks this turbo would max stock fueling on the 3sgte at around 14psi. once the small pieces are ordered and arrive, i will put it back in and run it for a week to ensure no couplers come off and that boost is holding at the mild levels, then go dyno hunting and post the results, i think that can happen this season as long as i dont get called back out for another friggin business trip (this is scheduled to happen in end of July or Aug possibly...).

Good luck with what you decide, we can only give opinions at this point :-)

[killerkid08]

whats setup ?

specifics ?

total dollars out the door after it was all said and done ?