3SGTE: ssautochrome t3/t4 any good?

[Adrians89MR2SC]

mr2gq has a new intercooler piping kit coming b/c his current one (as you can see by the pics) is kinda worn out ..

the wastegate points torwards the firwall, so it wouldnt be that hard to fab up a screamer pipe to go torwards the ground or pipe it back into the DP .. it comes with the brackets so just need a piece of pipe ..

[Sylvan]

Originally Posted by Adrians89MR2SC

if the corvettes werent bad on insurance i'd be getting a loan right now ..

they do 20-28 mpg .. and there pretty darn fast ..

just the insurance kills it ..

you can pick up a slightly used 02' z06 for around $18 - $20K

Have you gotten an insurance quote on the new Z06's? They're not bad at all! I was quoted < $90 a month for full coverage.

[Adrians89MR2SC]

thats double what im paying right now ..

also, im 17 .. and your over 25 .. so if i got a corvette my insurance company would only be seeing $$$$$$$$$$ in there eyes ..


i have a 91 camaro z28 with a fully built motor .. and v8's are cool and all (torquee as hell), but there just something about a high revving turbo 4cyl that just gets me ..

[Sylvan]

Ah.. yea. The age is going to screw you. I still have flashbacks of the days when I had my Supra, I was around 20 years old and I was paying upwards of $500/month for full coverage on that sucker.

Anyway, you could always swap a 3SGTE into a Z06

[Adrians89MR2SC]

$500 / month .. AAAAAAHHH .. thats a payment for a corvette ... dang ..

as for the 3sgte swap for the Z06, sounds pretty cool .. .. maybe the insurance might go down if i tell them its a 4cyl corvette, that would throw em off ..

[mr2gq]

adrian youget urs on order or did you get it yet? And the wastegate you can face iut the other way if you so choose. I dontsee no point in putting a pipe on it. Not like its going to add power or something

[kblake]

Originally Posted by mr2gq

the wastegate you can face iut the other way if you so choose. I dontsee no point in putting a pipe on it. Not like its going to add power or something

Hang on-your wastegate dumps directly into the engine bay?

[Adrians89MR2SC]

lol, yea it dumps into the bay ..

i know it wont add power with a pipe, but my dad said it was REALLY loud .. he was sitting in his car when we went down the road and he heard it when we were down the end of the street ..

depending on how loud it is, i might put on a screamer pipe down to the ground or pipe it into the exhuast ..

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they shipped my kit yesterday, so it should be here monday according to fedex ..

[hmong337]

thanks for the pics gq. not sure if i missed it but what are you running in terms of fuel management? the kit looks decent on your car

[Adrians89MR2SC]

hey man, there MY pics ..

.. ok fine, i just took them ..

went over there the other night to look at it before i ordered mine, looks really nice .. and he said he had new intercooler pipes coming with red connectors, then itll looks sick

he's running all stock, except i think he bumped the compression up just slightly with different pistons and slight bore when he rebuilt it ..

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i get my SS kit monday, so ill take some pics next week .. is there any reason nobody paints the turbo and just lets it rust .. i was thinking of spraying it with 1200* paint before installing it .. and im gonna spray my valve cover red too (both my and mr2gq mr2's are 91 red turbo's)

[mr2gq]

Yes its factory ems. IDC if you think its ghetto. YOu aint driving it and penocha dont care lol. Yeah it has been bored and compression bumped slightly. Yeah dont mind the pipe boys air intake part neither lol I had to use something to get it going cause obviously the housing is like way bigger than the factory. But I got my intercooler pipes and im going to be making a new intake set up along with replacing the factory ones. I ordered the parts to do my exhaust, well my friends exhaust shop did, and I was hoping it would be here by sat but looksl ike its going to be monday. And man I been slowly getting in it a little hard and I got to tell you even after I had my factory turbo rebuilt and was putting out about 10-12 psi this new kit feels just as fast if not faster at only 6 or so. Oh and adrian the wastegate isnt as loud when you cap off the top nipple. For one it takes more to open it cause it raises the psi. So its not as loud at lower rpms/ speed. But man does it souynd cool hehe. I would paint it. Probably wont last cause its so freakn hot

[Adrians89MR2SC]

even 1200* paint wont last, anyone know how hot the turbo gets?

thats a good point about the wastegate, your only running 6psi or so .. so i guess it has to open up and bleed all that excess air ..

[mr2gq]

Yeah thats why I really didnt have to get on it to hear it liek you herd it.

[kblake]

Originally Posted by Adrians89MR2SC

lol, yea it dumps into the bay ..

i know it wont add power with a pipe, but my dad said it was REALLY loud .. he was sitting in his car when we went down the road and he heard it when we were down the end of the street ..

depending on how loud it is, i might put on a screamer pipe down to the ground or pipe it into the exhuast ..

Adding a pipe won't make much of a difference in sound. I have no problem with an open dump, I run one myself, but I'm routing the hot exhaust gases out of the engine bay. Those gases can be as hot as 1600 degrees F, and will make short order of any electrical wiring, silicon ic piping couplers, or vacuum lines in the engine bay.

Originally Posted by mr2gq

IDC if you think its ghetto.
Oh and adrian the wastegate isnt as loud when you cap off the top nipple. For one it takes more to open it cause it raises the psi. So its not as loud at lower rpms/ speed. But man does it souynd cool hehe.

That's simply not true. Unless you are using an electronic boost controller to add air to the spring side of the wastegate (top hose barb) the wastegate will open just as soon with a vacuum cap on the top barb as with it open to atmosphere. (unless it's malfunctioning, which wouldn't surprise me)

Originally Posted by mr2gq

I would paint it. Probably wont last cause its so freakn hot

Paint won't last. You can have it ceramic coated, but the coating would be worth more than the turbocharger if you coated both housings!


Ceramic coated turbine housing with polished compressor housing:



Ken

[Adrians89MR2SC]

dang, so i just have to let it rust ..

i might try and put 1200 degree header paint on it, and if it comes off .. then so be it ..

got some laying around so ill just paint it black ..



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oh, and i like how you copy / pasted stuff that wasnt in my postings .. and i didnt say half of those things, mr2gq did

[kblake]

Originally Posted by Adrians89MR2SC

dang, so i just have to let it rust ..

i might try and put 1200 degree header paint on it, and if it comes off .. then so be it ..

got some laying around so ill just paint it black ..



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oh, and i like how you copy / pasted stuff that wasnt in my postings .. and i didnt say half of those things, mr2gq did

Yes, the paint will burn off, and leave a mess.

Sorry, it was not intentional, I'll edit my post.

[mr2gq]

Dude I swear mine boost more with it caped and its not as lous till it boost up higher

[nodla]

so wait... maybe I am mistaken. But y'all are using this turbo with no Fuel Management at all? This seems horribly risky to me. Do you have a wideband to make sure you are still within acceptable AFRs?

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by Sylvan

Anyway, you could always swap a 3SGTE into a Z06

Originally Posted by Adrians89MR2SC

$500 / month .. AAAAAAHHH .. thats a payment for a corvette ... dang ..

as for the 3sgte swap for the Z06, sounds pretty cool .. .. maybe the insurance might go down if i tell them its a 4cyl corvette, that would throw em off ..

Ok, I just had to chime in on this one....I like MR2's and the 3SGTE is a great, well-built engine. However, the thought of someone trying to shove a 3SGTE into a Z06 is awful. The Z06 is a great car, putting a 3SGTE into it would be a waste of both. The mention of that is enough to make me ponder one thought....why...

[Sylvan]

Well he said he preferred 4-cylinders
I for one totally agree with you, I think it would be a retarded thing to do.