3SGTE: What is the prefered boost controller?

[vr4]

Originally Posted by Luni

Yeah, Im with Ken on this.

To those of you who have always used an MBC and say "its good enough, etc blah blah" (no disrespect intended with the blah blah), and never used an EBC, you would have no idea.

Going from a ball/spring MBC to a good EBC is night and day. EBCs are well worth their money IMO. MBCs are koo, they work, but if you want absolute control, get an EBC. Youll feel the difference if you set it up properly.

glad someone said it.


blitz dual solenoid for me.

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by Sang

I've had both a greddy profec B-II and am now running an MBC. The only thing I miss about that ebc is on-the-fly adjustment from inside the cabin. But once I got my MBC set, it is set-it and forget-it...

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...CInstalled.jpg

I'd love an EBC but it's not in the funds right now.

The Joe P Pro-Z MBC is a nice MBC. I'm going to be picking one of them up soon.

In your picture, did you mount it on the front engine firewall? That's kind of what it looks like in the picture.

[Sang]

Yes. I just reused one of the bolt holes for the stock airbox and used a longer bolt.

Also, be careful when tightening down the MBC to the bracket...I snapped the head off one of the small socket cap bolts that is supplied easily.

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by Sang

Yes. I just reused one of the bolt holes for the stock airbox and used a longer bolt.

Also, be careful when tightening down the MBC to the bracket...I snapped the head off one of the small socket cap bolts that is supplied easily.

Cool. It's nice to see it back there on the front firewall. It looks out of the way too, so not likely to get bumped when messing around under there. Thanks for the heads up on the socket cap when tightening it down. I'll make sure to be extra careful

[MR2BOY23]

Originally Posted by o6spdracer

I like my Blitz Dual-SBC Type R, mostly because of the various programmable boost settings.

I use the same one. Never had a problem with it spiking or anything

[lucky_charms]

guys what the hell would other be??

[devind56]

HKS....have a prospec b that will be up forsale lol

[Big Thurs]

Originally Posted by lucky_charms

guys what the hell would other be??

Wastegate spring mods come to mind, as well as ghetto things like disabling the wastegate and using your foot.

I've never noticed a performance difference between electronic and manual. I did notice that EBC's are by far more difficult to set up and more prone to equipment failure, although the failure rate seems to be quite low. The good old regulator (ball and spring) style mbc's are simple, cheap, and pretty much bullet proof. I personally cannot justify spending the amount of money for an ebc for a display I don't need in my dash and a couple of bells and whistles, but if I did spend that kind of money on an ebc, I'm sure I would fit into the "placebo effect" category.

[devind56]

not quite... considering that after enough use and abuse they r always gonna leak or spike.... ive never owned one that hasnt

[lucky_charms]

ok so if money wasnt an issue what would u guys get

[karl]

Originally Posted by lucky_charms

guys what the hell would other be??

saab APC.

it's an electronic boost module in all turbo saabs from mid 80's to mid 90's. uses a pressure sensor, an ignition coil input, a knock sensor input and a couple other inputs to control boost. both boost level and boost rise curve are adjustable.

if it detects knock, it cuts boost back until knock goes away. it also grounds one of the unused pins, which can be connected to an LED to blink when knock is detected.

[MDoe8]

An AEM controlled valve is my preference

[mr2magic]

Just got my Joe P Pro-Z!! What a sexy looking piece of gear Hella solid and good quality.

Now all I need is someone to tell me how to connect my FCD (see other thread)

Greets!

[Sang]

Test it out and see. Use quick taps to wire in the FCD to create a parallel circuit in the PIM. Use throttle modulation and a boost gauge to see if the FCD worked. If it didn't, then now you know you have to cut the wires and wire in the FCD in-line the PIM circuit to lower voltage output.

[mr2magic]

Thanks sang Project LED FCD has died! The guy I bought it from prolly stored it in his garage - the trimmer was 80% rust and totally useless so I threw the POS away. I would really like something along the lines of the turbosmart FCD 2 but it's way expensive :-(

[Sang]

FCDs are very simple boards. Paying for expensive ones seem pointless to me. Contact David at twosrus.com to see if he goes int'l shipping to germany and if it'll be worthwhile cost-wise to do so. TB Developments has FCDs too IIRC and they are located in the UK so hopefully shipping would be cheaper that way. And if you are handy with a soldering iron/gun and have an electrical hobby shop around town, you can always make your own.

[kirkosaurus]

I just went from using a TwosRus MBC to an old Greddy Profec B spec EBC and, Wow! Should've done this a long time ago! Seems to build boost quicker and I have total control over the boost from inside the cabin while driving. Not to mention the option of having 2 different boost settings (can use one for 15psi on regular pump and one for higher boost if running race fuel).

[nuk1ear]

thats interesting how people say an electronic one is better, making you boost quicker...............I cant understand how it works. If its a ball/spring MBC then you wont get wastegate creep, and it should operate exactly the same way as an electronic one. Infact it should be best to match a ball and spring valve with a pressure regulator so that you also dont get boost spikes. EBC dont have that built in do they? Theyre just a solenoid adjusted valve.

[mister3]

i perfer MBC's. less problematic in the long run... easier to deal with and afford in the short term.

[vr4]

nobody here remember this article?


Electronic Boost Controller Comparison - Turbo Accessories - Sport Compact Car Magazine


my 91 came with a profec B spec 2. i pulled it out and will be installing my SBC-ID tomorrow.