3S-GTE JDM 3rd Gen Turbo Engine 3rd gen body harness question.

stewart · 07-28-2009, 02:22 PM

on my swap i have a full 3rd gen body harness and my car was a 91 na. do i need to repin any of the plugs on it for my car to start?

christo4_99 · 07-31-2009, 11:58 AM

i have a 93 us na harness in a 92 and beside the 22 pin plug i had to connect a blue black wire behind the seat to get the fuel pump to turn on,the two plugs are different,there are also two red/black wires on the plug i am referring to and only one to match it up with

stewart · 07-31-2009, 12:31 PM

so will this work for my 3rd gen body harness?

christo4_99 · 08-01-2009, 02:52 AM

it is probably the same color blue/black for the fuel pump,the fpr(is a ground) wire on the ecu controls the speed of the fuel pump but fc(also a ground) controls the power to the fuel pump...that's all i needed to know to get my car to run although since i had an n/a harness all i had to do was ground the fuel pump circuit to fc and the pump runs wide open all the time.there is a 93 bgb online http://manual.teq.org/.as far as i know 3rd gen and 93 are close but not exactly the same.

stewart · 08-01-2009, 11:28 AM

yeah thats what ive heard. but a 91 is no where close. haha

christo4_99 · 08-02-2009, 12:22 AM

it would be easier for you to get a 91 n/a chassis harness and then you could just wire in the 22 pin plug and ground the f to fc and be done with it...this is the way the 2nd gen alltrac celicas functioned...there are guys like drtweak and mr2driver that can help you more than i on this board...but if you want my honest opinion i would seriously consider selling the 3rd gen chassis harness and going back to the n/a harness...there are only 3 real differences(fuel pump relay which kicks in the resistor for idling,the resistor itself and intercooler fan circuit)...the only other issue is the electric speedo but that's 93+ and 3rd gen specific anyway

stewart · 08-02-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by christo4_99

it would be easier for you to get a 91 n/a chassis harness and then you could just wire in the 22 pin plug and ground the f to fc and be done with it...this is the way the 2nd gen alltrac celicas functioned...there are guys like drtweak and mr2driver that can help you more than i on this board...but if you want my honest opinion i would seriously consider selling the 3rd gen chassis harness and going back to the n/a harness...there are only 3 real differences(fuel pump relay which kicks in the resistor for idling,the resistor itself and intercooler fan circuit)...the only other issue is the electric speedo but that's 93+ and 3rd gen specific anyway

why wouldnt it be easier to repin plug on 3rd gen harness under dash

christo4_99 · 08-02-2009, 12:54 PM

because there are other plugs,like the one behind the seat that don't fit either and one in the trunk...like i said,contact drtweak or mr2driver about addressing those issues

stewart · 08-02-2009, 01:46 PM

thanks, do you have web address. when i searched igot a pcu programer and a euro mag

stewart · 08-02-2009, 02:13 PM

we think we have bad eng harness ,when we got half cut it had no body harness and eng harness was cut and spliced, all plugs and ecu plug

christo4_99 · 08-03-2009, 02:17 AM

you can use a 93 engine harness,it matches up pretty good with a few pins moved as far as i know,also check the #s on your ecu cuz i had a 3rd gen ecu and my motorset was 93

stewart · 08-03-2009, 03:48 PM

we had a 92 turbo harness and a eng harness i think 92 switched re pluged. i tore into eng harness and found splices using wiire with no insulation just wraped with elec tape . ill have pictures soon as my son takes them , probibly tomorrow . baaad short somewhere i think is eng harness. 1 wire has 3 splices

mrjimmyx · 08-03-2009, 06:29 PM

so... is this for a 3sge or turbo? I already started riping stuff apart and I saw that the kick panel has a male plug and the 3sge body harness has a male plug. also some connectors by the speakers dont connect but thats just the speaker wires. correct?

stewart · 08-03-2009, 06:38 PM

we have a 91 n/a swaped 3rd gen 3sgte. we got took on the half cut. it had no body harness and sensors and a chopped up eng harness .be careful who you buy from

stewart · 08-03-2009, 06:39 PM

ours dosent run yet

stewart · 08-04-2009, 01:50 PM

ordered new 3rd gen eng harness today , be here next tues.

mrjimmyx · 08-04-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stewart

ordered new 3rd gen eng harness today , be here next tues.

HEY STWEART! I just purchased one from RPMGARAGE and it came it. A full body harness. The problem I ran into was the speaker wires. there aren't any speaker wires plugs to connect to my 5s one. I guess since its jdm. oh well... as long as it runs then

My other problem I ran into was the plugs for the tail lights. since mines are 91's they dont connect! their all female plugs. let me know what you did about these ok? THANKS FOR READY AND REPLYING!

oh yeah, also a plug in the kick panel doesn't connect to the 5s connector. you have a sn where we could chat instead?

stewart · 08-04-2009, 04:58 PM

mine 3sgte 3rd gen turbo put new bodyharness on and so far only changed 1 plug in front. but bad eng harness alot of bad splices on it. i ordered a new eng harness today if that dosent do trick then new ecu. we have gotten alot of good info here. where we live theres not any3rd gen swaps to compare to

christo4_99 · 08-05-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stewart

if that dosent do trick then new ecu.

i have a good 3rd gen ecu fs

stewart · 08-05-2009, 02:34 PM

i may be interested next week, want to see if new eng harness works , ecu is next step

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07-31-2009, 11:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
christo4_99 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brandon Fl Posts: 215 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i have a 93 us na harness in a 92 and beside the 22 pin plug i had to connect a blue black wire behind the seat to get the fuel pump to turn on,the two plugs are different,there are also two red/black wires on the plug i am referring to and only one to match it up with

07-31-2009, 12:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
stewart ad3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: foothills NC Posts: 156 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	so will this work for my 3rd gen body harness?

08-01-2009, 02:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
christo4_99 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brandon Fl Posts: 215 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	it is probably the same color blue/black for the fuel pump,the fpr(is a ground) wire on the ecu controls the speed of the fuel pump but fc(also a ground) controls the power to the fuel pump...that's all i needed to know to get my car to run although since i had an n/a harness all i had to do was ground the fuel pump circuit to fc and the pump runs wide open all the time.there is a 93 bgb online http://manual.teq.org/.as far as i know 3rd gen and 93 are close but not exactly the same.

08-01-2009, 11:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
stewart ad3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: foothills NC Posts: 156 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	yeah thats what ive heard. but a 91 is no where close. haha

08-02-2009, 12:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
christo4_99 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brandon Fl Posts: 215 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	it would be easier for you to get a 91 n/a chassis harness and then you could just wire in the 22 pin plug and ground the f to fc and be done with it...this is the way the 2nd gen alltrac celicas functioned...there are guys like drtweak and mr2driver that can help you more than i on this board...but if you want my honest opinion i would seriously consider selling the 3rd gen chassis harness and going back to the n/a harness...there are only 3 real differences(fuel pump relay which kicks in the resistor for idling,the resistor itself and intercooler fan circuit)...the only other issue is the electric speedo but that's 93+ and 3rd gen specific anyway

08-02-2009, 12:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
christo4_99 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brandon Fl Posts: 215 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	because there are other plugs,like the one behind the seat that don't fit either and one in the trunk...like i said,contact drtweak or mr2driver about addressing those issues

08-02-2009, 01:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
stewart ad3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: foothills NC Posts: 156 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	thanks, do you have web address. when i searched igot a pcu programer and a euro mag

08-02-2009, 02:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
stewart ad3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: foothills NC Posts: 156 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	we think we have bad eng harness ,when we got half cut it had no body harness and eng harness was cut and spliced, all plugs and ecu plug

08-03-2009, 02:17 AM	#11 (permalink)
christo4_99 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brandon Fl Posts: 215 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	you can use a 93 engine harness,it matches up pretty good with a few pins moved as far as i know,also check the #s on your ecu cuz i had a 3rd gen ecu and my motorset was 93

08-03-2009, 03:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
stewart ad3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: foothills NC Posts: 156 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	we had a 92 turbo harness and a eng harness i think 92 switched re pluged. i tore into eng harness and found splices using wiire with no insulation just wraped with elec tape . ill have pictures soon as my son takes them , probibly tomorrow . baaad short somewhere i think is eng harness. 1 wire has 3 splices

08-03-2009, 06:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
mrjimmyx Cage Fighter Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 416 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	so... is this for a 3sge or turbo? I already started riping stuff apart and I saw that the kick panel has a male plug and the 3sge body harness has a male plug. also some connectors by the speakers dont connect but thats just the speaker wires. correct?

08-03-2009, 06:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
stewart ad3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: foothills NC Posts: 156 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	we have a 91 n/a swaped 3rd gen 3sgte. we got took on the half cut. it had no body harness and sensors and a chopped up eng harness .be careful who you buy from

08-03-2009, 06:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
stewart ad3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: foothills NC Posts: 156 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	ours dosent run yet

08-04-2009, 01:50 PM	#16 (permalink)
stewart ad3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: foothills NC Posts: 156 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	ordered new 3rd gen eng harness today , be here next tues.

08-04-2009, 04:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
stewart ad3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: foothills NC Posts: 156 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	mine 3sgte 3rd gen turbo put new bodyharness on and so far only changed 1 plug in front. but bad eng harness alot of bad splices on it. i ordered a new eng harness today if that dosent do trick then new ecu. we have gotten alot of good info here. where we live theres not any3rd gen swaps to compare to

08-05-2009, 02:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
stewart ad3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: foothills NC Posts: 156 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	i may be interested next week, want to see if new eng harness works , ecu is next step