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Crispin · 10-16-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SE-RMR2

Well me and my wife worked out an agreement... unless there was a nice chunk offered...

Tsk... gratz on getting to keep the car...

Still have any shells? heard you were letting some guy store his 2 with a blown engine too? He looking at selling?

Crispin · 10-16-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth W

I dont know which class it is in but one where you cant do much to them 93's are a better choice

ITA is Improved Touring A.

Basically, ride height can't be any lower than 5".
+1mm over bore
No excessive porting or polishing.
No excessive decking the block / milling the head.
No gear changes
No drastic suspension changes
Only stock body kits.
15" wheels as a max.
Wheels upto 7" wide but not to stick out beyond the fenders.
Stock fuel cell size.
Minimum weight allowed /w driver.
Stock brake size.

. . .Something like that. . . probably some stuff I am forgetting.

However, 91-92's do have a crisper response in steering than the 93-95's.

Just curious on the reasoning behind the 93.

Hehe... not like I haven't driven a 2 once or twice in my life.

Judgeman · 10-16-2008, 08:25 PM

93+s came with bigger brakes, diferant rear suspention, no caster adjust on the front, about 1'' lower ride hight and a bunch of other little stuff.

Crispin · 10-16-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Judgeman

93+s came with bigger brakes, diferant rear suspention, no caster adjust on the front, about 1'' lower ride hight and a bunch of other little stuff.

mmmm I think you need to check your facts...

MR-3vz · 10-16-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mr2greasemonkey

Build looks great J, I'll see if I can get Leng to ship your parts out to you.

Thanx man, I finally got the winter beater nearly ready for road use. I had to take the exhaust and egay coilovers and blown shocks off and replace them with all OEM parts. So the swap should be starting soon.

-j

kblake · 10-16-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Crispin

mmmm I think you need to check your facts...

He's pretty close, except for the ride height. The rear control arms were lengthened, and the mounting points moved. The rear suspension geometry is superior, and much better at controlling camber changes in a corner. The 91-92 suspension can be retrofitted to the later cars, although I don't know about the legality of it for SCCA purposes. They also have better transmissions, 15" diameter wheels, and the ABS works better. The stock 93 wheels are 8" wide in the back, I wonder if ITA will allow them?

Seth W · 10-16-2008, 11:14 PM

all I know is the scca champ says a 93+ is the way to go so he's got my vote.

Crispin · 10-16-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kblake

He's pretty close, except for the ride height. The rear control arms were lengthened, and the mounting points moved. The rear suspension geometry is superior, and much better at controlling camber changes in a corner. The 91-92 suspension can be retrofitted to the later cars, although I don't know about the legality of it for SCCA purposes. They also have better transmissions, 15" diameter wheels, and the ABS works better. The stock 93 wheels are 8" wide in the back, I wonder if ITA will allow them?

I do not believe the brake information is correct either for NA cars. I believe NA's had the same brake size 91-95. A quick look at napaonline (not the most reliable source) shows reman'd calipers and brake pads are the same part numbers between the two. The information he is siting I believe is in reference to Turbo's. 91-92's had smaller brakes then their 93+ counter parts. In addition, SCCA rules for the MR2's show the MK1's with two disc sizes, and the MK2's with one disc size.

I believe you can fit newer suspension on older cars, not the reverse, according to ITA rules. I do not think they'd imagine someone would want to 'downgrade' or use older suspension. I'll have to double check.

The newer suspension upgrades, tame the driving experience of the car and make it a tad more managable, IMO. However, for agressive driving I think I prefer the older suspension.

8" wide? My memory could be wrong, I believe my 95's front wheels are 6.5" and the rears are 7". Toyota lists option tire size as 205F / 225R. For ITA, I beleive, 15x7" is the largest rim that can be run and your rubber cannot extend beyond the fenders when looking straight down.

Regards,
-C

Crispin · 10-16-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth W

all I know is the scca champ says a 93+ is the way to go so he's got my vote.

SCCA in road course? autox? rally?

Hoping for road course.

Eh... and every driver is different in what they like, even if the numbers of the car say they are wrong.

-C

foutong · 10-17-2008, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Crispin

Tsk... gratz on getting to keep the car...

Still have any shells? heard you were letting some guy store his 2 with a blown engine too? He looking at selling?

eh you wouldnt want that thing its a t-top lol

plus you really should go with a 93... please dont sell it leng.

so my buddy and i cranked out the timing belt. i had some trouble timing the thing but got through it. whats the deal with turning the crank twice before putting on the belt?

anyways, zai i hate to ask after you guys did some cleaning up in the shop but would you mind if i stowed a motor there for about 3 weeks? i found a motor but my grandparents are throwing a get together in a couple of weeks and they need all the garage space i can clean out lol if its not possible i understand.

Judgeman · 10-17-2008, 10:24 AM

yeah the 93+ na brakes probibly are the same as the 91-92 but the ride hight is lower on 93+.
and the 93+ wheels are 15x6 15x7, same width as 91-92 but with wider tires.

SE-RMR2 · 10-17-2008, 01:39 PM

Is that you charles??? If so... you can store a motor in my garage... for a couple of weeks... and no i will not sell your car...

Quote:

Originally Posted by foutong

eh you wouldnt want that thing its a t-top lol

plus you really should go with a 93... please dont sell it leng.

so my buddy and i cranked out the timing belt. i had some trouble timing the thing but got through it. whats the deal with turning the crank twice before putting on the belt?

anyways, zai i hate to ask after you guys did some cleaning up in the shop but would you mind if i stowed a motor there for about 3 weeks? i found a motor but my grandparents are throwing a get together in a couple of weeks and they need all the garage space i can clean out lol if its not possible i understand.

foutong · 10-17-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SE-RMR2

Is that you charles??? If so... you can store a motor in my garage... for a couple of weeks... and no i will not sell your car...

yes sir, sweet i was going to pick it up sat but i'm going in to get a root canal, so i'm going to see if i could pick it up on sunday. i'll get a hold of you tonight or something

sinESter · 10-17-2008, 06:26 PM

i may be willing to part with my mr2.
or trade for a streetbike.

its a 92 sunroof. crappy 5s.
its got suspensionwork and brakes on it. other goods too.
call me or somethin 503-779-5934

Seth W · 10-17-2008, 09:44 PM

you really want to get a bike in fall?

goose2580 · 10-18-2008, 12:59 AM

and whats wrong with riding a bike in the fall?

ok so i have a bachelor pad now and was thinking about getting poker nights started. so if we could figure a night we can all get together i'll get the ball rolling. oh and if any one knows of someone looking for a place to rent i will be renting out two of the rooms in my house for a decent price.

sinESter · 10-18-2008, 05:29 AM

i'd take a bike in the fall. market is down for bikes since the weather is out, meaning i'll get a better deal. it wouldnt be my DD

eckoman_pdx · 10-18-2008, 12:19 PM

This morning on my way to class, someone swiped the side of my MR2. They only hit the side vent, scratched the **** out of it. I have no idea what happened. They just left too.

I was stopped at the store to get a drink on my way to a Saturday class at the college. I'm so pissed right now, I can't even concentrate. My poor baby. All I want to do is go home, buff and wet-sand what I can out, and go to the paint store to get some paint to fix it...which of course closed at 1pm, when this f'ing class ends.

GRRR...

I'll trade out upholstery work if someone is willing to help me re-paint that part of it, since I am not a painter, I'm an upholstery guy.

sinESter · 10-18-2008, 02:45 PM

i know someone who does paint work. but it will cost a few bucks.

eckoman_pdx · 10-18-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sinESter

i know someone who does paint work. but it will cost a few bucks.

I PM'd you my number in regards the bumper. Give me a call.

10-17-2008, 06:26 PM	#2154 (permalink)
sinESter quick like a minx Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: portland Posts: 532 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	i may be willing to part with my mr2. or trade for a streetbike. its a 92 sunroof. crappy 5s. its got suspensionwork and brakes on it. other goods too. call me or somethin 503-779-5934 Last edited by sinESter; 10-17-2008 at 06:49 PM..

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Judgeman No Skills Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Keizer OR Posts: 459 Thanks: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	93+s came with bigger brakes, diferant rear suspention, no caster adjust on the front, about 1'' lower ride hight and a bunch of other little stuff.

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Seth W thats me Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,174 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	all I know is the scca champ says a 93+ is the way to go so he's got my vote.

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Judgeman No Skills Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Keizer OR Posts: 459 Thanks: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	yeah the 93+ na brakes probibly are the same as the 91-92 but the ride hight is lower on 93+. and the 93+ wheels are 15x6 15x7, same width as 91-92 but with wider tires.

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Seth W thats me Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,174 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	you really want to get a bike in fall?

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goose2580 Evil Twins Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: portland oregon Posts: 539 Thanks: 16 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My Google Map iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	and whats wrong with riding a bike in the fall? ok so i have a bachelor pad now and was thinking about getting poker nights started. so if we could figure a night we can all get together i'll get the ball rolling. oh and if any one knows of someone looking for a place to rent i will be renting out two of the rooms in my house for a decent price.

10-18-2008, 05:29 AM	#2157 (permalink)
sinESter quick like a minx Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: portland Posts: 532 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	i'd take a bike in the fall. market is down for bikes since the weather is out, meaning i'll get a better deal. it wouldnt be my DD

10-18-2008, 12:19 PM	#2158 (permalink)
eckoman_pdx Rev 6 Install Expert Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 2,799 Thanks: 66 Thanked 177 Times in 149 Posts iTrader Rating: (4/100% )	This morning on my way to class, someone swiped the side of my MR2. They only hit the side vent, scratched the **** out of it. I have no idea what happened. They just left too. I was stopped at the store to get a drink on my way to a Saturday class at the college. I'm so pissed right now, I can't even concentrate. My poor baby. All I want to do is go home, buff and wet-sand what I can out, and go to the paint store to get some paint to fix it...which of course closed at 1pm, when this f'ing class ends. GRRR... I'll trade out upholstery work if someone is willing to help me re-paint that part of it, since I am not a painter, I'm an upholstery guy.

10-18-2008, 02:45 PM	#2159 (permalink)
sinESter quick like a minx Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: portland Posts: 532 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	i know someone who does paint work. but it will cost a few bucks.