Why the 3vz-fe is the best Toyota v6 - Page 2

Node · 11-23-2005, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toysrme

Na jz family heads suck.
You want 1uz-fe heads even tho they're fe, they can kicks some major yassa!
(What can 85 hours of work do on an FE head?)

Yes 3vz-fe's own.

I think its funny that they didnt prep the surface of the head before the port work.

Weasy2k · 11-23-2005, 02:27 PM

lol never even noticed that

Toysrme · 11-25-2005, 01:47 AM

The guy did it himself @ his work. I'm sure he got around to it.

Quote:

Where are arguements to other engines?

What do you want to know about & start another thread. This is a 3vz-fe thread.

MZ is lighter, the cams give them the opposite style powerband, their OBD-II, the cam & crank position sensors don't always pick-up right on piggybacks, they're distirbutorless / wasted spark, some have vvt (97 ES/Windom) others have vvt-i, some can fit the (blah) trd supercharger, they have a returnless fuel system with fuel rails that don't flow evenly, something about the knock sensors are sometimes defective (pulling timing when they shouldn't), vvt-i = drive-by-wire, And they're weaker than other v6's.
In a nut shell, the only time I would say go buy a 1mz-fe instead of a 3/5vz-fe is if you had to have something ULEV compliant.
They're not my favorite engine family.

But that's another thread, if you wanna discuss other engine's make a thread.

flyingbrick · 07-05-2006, 02:42 AM

why is this not a sticky

Toysrme · 07-05-2006, 01:18 PM

shhhhh cause more guys buy the mz's & don't like hearing the other side of the story!

Weasy2k · 07-05-2006, 08:31 PM

it not a sticky?

Brad Bedell · 07-05-2006, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toysrme

shhhhh cause more guys buy the mz's & don't like hearing the other side of the story!

Or is it that we actually admit that the dinosaurs ARE extinct and like our sport cars like we like our women? [lean] But it's okay guys,I am not a hater. I am fully aware that fat women need love too.

Here are some interesting charts off of the 1mz SAE paper:

The Previous 3.0l v6 is the VZ stuff. I really like superior cylinder bore distortion the VZ block seems to have as compared to the MZ.

Weasy2k · 07-05-2006, 09:13 PM

fancy charts!

Toysrme · 07-05-2006, 11:11 PM

When I see a stock piston'd 1mz-fe last as long as any vz block under boost. I'll be concerned about that cylinder bore distortion.

Maybe it's that superior combustion rate at a 14.5:1 AFR that blows them up!

Maybe if their owners would try to run more than a 14.5:1 AFR under boost they'd last the long haul~!

I jest.

I have two outstanding rules:

lowboost · 09-02-2006, 08:29 PM

that 1uzfe head is a little too much ported wouldnt you think? unless thats the exhaust side that fuel is gonna bounce in there and not spread around, it will ressemble water in out of space! and just clump towards the spark plug! Otherwise it looks flipping awesome

blackbob · 03-13-2007, 04:08 AM

So looks like I'm sourcing a 3zvfe for my MR2. I also noticed that the 3VZFE out of the JDM 4 Runner has a intake mani similar to that of the 3SGTE, which in my opinion is even more ideal for a MR2.

Toysrme · 03-15-2007, 11:10 AM

Stop thought process now, wrong engine being implied, brain melting down.......

Oteck · 03-15-2007, 03:24 PM

you mean that horrid 3VZ-E sohc from the 4runner?

Weasy2k · 03-15-2007, 04:36 PM

nothing wrong with that engine....:P

Toysrme · 03-15-2007, 07:22 PM

relative to a lame ass r/a block no...

Weasy2k · 03-20-2007, 01:07 PM

To bad they are so expensive! I would love to build a 3vz-e :P The sound a twin valve engine makes is amazing

If done right they can produce mounds of TQ too

Toysrme · 03-20-2007, 07:30 PM

300zx ftw.
?, what does the vq30det & the 3vz-e have in common
a, neither one get's 15mpg, ever.

D-spec · 03-26-2007, 11:16 PM

You forgot one simple detail, VZ's look pretty even in minimalist state!

(I never miss a chance to be a picture whore

)

SnowRocker88 · 01-30-2009, 08:34 AM

I dont really see where you showed that it was better than a 5VZ...except maybe in price and OBD-II...but the 5VZ, in my opinion, is just good enough to merit the higher price...and what's really bad about OBD-II...really?

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11-23-2005, 02:27 PM	#22 (permalink)
Weasy2k What is an MR2? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,891 Thanks: 33 Thanked 82 Times in 68 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	lol never even noticed that

07-05-2006, 02:42 AM	#24 (permalink)
flyingbrick Cage Fighter Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 287 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	why is this not a sticky

07-05-2006, 01:18 PM	#25 (permalink)
Toysrme Cage Fighter Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 681 Thanks: 4 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts iTrader Rating: (-1/0% )	shhhhh cause more guys buy the mz's & don't like hearing the other side of the story!

07-05-2006, 08:31 PM	#26 (permalink)
Weasy2k What is an MR2? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,891 Thanks: 33 Thanked 82 Times in 68 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	it not a sticky?

07-05-2006, 09:13 PM	#28 (permalink)
Weasy2k What is an MR2? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,891 Thanks: 33 Thanked 82 Times in 68 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	fancy charts!

07-05-2006, 11:11 PM	#29 (permalink)
Toysrme Cage Fighter Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 681 Thanks: 4 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts iTrader Rating: (-1/0% )	When I see a stock piston'd 1mz-fe last as long as any vz block under boost. I'll be concerned about that cylinder bore distortion. Maybe it's that superior combustion rate at a 14.5:1 AFR that blows them up! Maybe if their owners would try to run more than a 14.5:1 AFR under boost they'd last the long haul~! I jest. I have two outstanding rules:

09-02-2006, 08:29 PM	#30 (permalink)
lowboost Going 4 broke Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 345 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	that 1uzfe head is a little too much ported wouldnt you think? unless thats the exhaust side that fuel is gonna bounce in there and not spread around, it will ressemble water in out of space! and just clump towards the spark plug! Otherwise it looks flipping awesome

03-13-2007, 04:08 AM	#31 (permalink)
blackbob wiring....odds and ends Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stationed in Guam Posts: 753 Thanks: 61 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	So looks like I'm sourcing a 3zvfe for my MR2. I also noticed that the 3VZFE out of the JDM 4 Runner has a intake mani similar to that of the 3SGTE, which in my opinion is even more ideal for a MR2.

03-15-2007, 11:10 AM	#32 (permalink)
Toysrme Cage Fighter Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 681 Thanks: 4 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts iTrader Rating: (-1/0% )	Stop thought process now, wrong engine being implied, brain melting down.......

03-15-2007, 04:36 PM	#34 (permalink)
Weasy2k What is an MR2? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,891 Thanks: 33 Thanked 82 Times in 68 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	nothing wrong with that engine....:P

03-15-2007, 07:22 PM	#35 (permalink)
Toysrme Cage Fighter Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 681 Thanks: 4 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts iTrader Rating: (-1/0% )	relative to a lame ass r/a block no...

03-20-2007, 01:07 PM	#36 (permalink)
Weasy2k What is an MR2? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 8,891 Thanks: 33 Thanked 82 Times in 68 Posts iTrader Rating: (9/100% )	To bad they are so expensive! I would love to build a 3vz-e :P The sound a twin valve engine makes is amazing If done right they can produce mounds of TQ too

03-20-2007, 07:30 PM	#37 (permalink)
Toysrme Cage Fighter Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 681 Thanks: 4 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts iTrader Rating: (-1/0% )	300zx ftw. ?, what does the vq30det & the 3vz-e have in common a, neither one get's 15mpg, ever.

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D-spec 3VZGTE..NEMESIS IS COMING Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 439 Thanks: 17 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	You forgot one simple detail, VZ's look pretty even in minimalist state! (I never miss a chance to be a picture whore )

01-30-2009, 08:34 AM	#39 (permalink)
SnowRocker88 Tech-Nerd Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 342 Thanks: 6 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	I dont really see where you showed that it was better than a 5VZ...except maybe in price and OBD-II...but the 5VZ, in my opinion, is just good enough to merit the higher price...and what's really bad about OBD-II...really?