How much approximately does a 3VZ swap cost?

Maruki-kun · 03-29-2009, 01:53 PM

Anyone got a tally on theirs?

3VZ: $216 (Crazy Rays)
3VZ ECU: $30 (crazy rays for this one)
3VZ Flywheel: looking around for price, probably $120
Custom Clutch System: $350
Wiring harness: $350 (thanks Mr220v!)
Tranny: not needed, stock is fine
Fuel Pump: not needed, stock is fine
Rebuild Kit: $300
Custom Y pipe: $150 (have friends. lol)
Custom Passenger side motor mount: $180

Gairloch · 03-29-2009, 04:27 PM

Somewhere between $200 - $200k

Most v6 swaps end up being between $2k - $5k

Oteck · 03-29-2009, 05:13 PM

engine x 5 = cost

mr2greasemonkey · 03-29-2009, 05:34 PM

I'm at bout $500 on this one, but then again lots of it was donated, heh.

Jason.MZW20 · 03-29-2009, 06:57 PM

It really depends. Since the 3VZ was only offered during the 92-93 model years, you're more than likely to find one with over 100k miles on it unless it came from Japan. If you rebuild it yourself, you can save a lot of money. Or you can save even more money by just putting it in the car, but I'd at least do the seals because why put another leaky engine in after all that hard work?

You get what you pay for and spend time on basically. If you can wire and fabricate exhaust pipes and the passenger side motor mount, that's more money you save.

Since you have an N/A, you'll need a new fuel pump, so you'll have to drop the tank. And if you use the E53/E153, you need the turbo hubs and axles along with the V6 intermediate shaft and carrier bearing which also needs a slight modification. If you use the S54, you'll have a car that accelerates quite well, but the trade-off is the high cruising RPM on the freeway and ratios which don't suit the torque curve of the 3VZ well at all.

Maruki-kun · 03-29-2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason.MZW20

It really depends. Since the 3VZ was only offered during the 92-93 model years, you're more than likely to find one with over 100k miles on it unless it came from Japan. If you rebuild it yourself, you can save a lot of money. Or you can save even more money by just putting it in the car, but I'd at least do the seals because why put another leaky engine in after all that hard work?

You get what you pay for and spend time on basically. If you can wire and fabricate exhaust pipes and the passenger side motor mount, that's more money you save.

Since you have an N/A, you'll need a new fuel pump, so you'll have to drop the tank. And if you use the E53/E153, you need the turbo hubs and axles along with the V6 intermediate shaft and carrier bearing which also needs a slight modification. If you use the S54, you'll have a car that accelerates quite well, but the trade-off is the high cruising RPM on the freeway and ratios which don't suit the torque curve of the 3VZ well at all.

I have seen a lot of motors on ebay with anywhere between 20k and 85k, I'd assume the latter to be true, but I wouldn't mid one of the 94+ JDM motors.

This is useful info.

Mark_Dorman · 04-03-2009, 04:53 AM

I've got about $800 into my 3VZ project so far.

I Still need:
-1mz flywheel
-Passenger side motor mount
-Custom cat back exhaust
-Turbo Axles & Hubs

I'm guessing my grand total will be around $1500 by the end.

Maruki-kun · 04-24-2009, 12:10 PM

Okay well my list of prices that I am aware of is this:
is there a tranny I can use out of any other car then the MR2? Like, can I find one of these LSD tranny's somewhere else like in a solara/camry/corolla?

3VZ: $185 (thanks crazy rays!)
Wireing harness: $350 (thanks Mr220v!)
Tranny: $100 (thanks again crazy rays!)
Fuel Pump: $100 (thanks shopping.google.com!)
Flywheel: $80 (thanks ebay!)
Rebuild Kit: $300 (Thanks ebay!!!!)

what else do I need?

Mark_Dorman · 04-24-2009, 12:11 PM

Custom motor mount, exhaust manifolds (and custom b-pipe), and any accessories you're missing...

Maruki-kun · 04-24-2009, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_Dorman

Custom motor mount, exhaust manifolds (and custom b-pipe), and any accessories you're missing...

I can probably fab the mount, it won't be pretty but it could work.

exhaust manifold - where can I get one? will the stock one not work?
Custom b-pipe - exhaust shop and $100 later I can probably have this done.
Accessories - Like the alternator? I can grab one for I think $40 used... but unless you are talking about like a RPM gauge thingy (I dunno if this swap needs one)

Mark_Dorman · 04-24-2009, 12:19 PM

Sounds like you're set. The stock manifolds work just fine. The Tach just needs a little mod that can be found in the sticky section.

Maruki-kun · 04-24-2009, 12:22 PM

and what about the tranny?

Mark_Dorman · 04-24-2009, 02:12 PM

You can use the NA tranny or the Turbo trans. Here's my thread on peoples opinions of them. Another popular choice is s51 internals in the s54 bellhousing.

http://www.mr2.com/forums/mk-2-v6/To...sion-poll.html

Maruki-kun · 04-24-2009, 02:28 PM

so I could use my NA tranny until I can buy a turbo LSD tranny?

Oteck · 04-24-2009, 03:27 PM

I think you should read/visit the knowledge base a few more times

fvillota · 04-24-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ku-sama

Okay well my list of prices that I am aware of is this:
is there a tranny I can use out of any other car then the MR2? Like, can I find one of these LSD tranny's somewhere else like in a solara/camry/corolla?

3VZ: $185 (thanks crazy rays!)
Wireing harness: $350 (thanks Mr220v!)
Tranny: $100 (thanks again crazy rays!)
Fuel Pump: $100 (thanks shopping.google.com!)
Flywheel: $80 (thanks ebay!)
Rebuild Kit: $300 (Thanks ebay!!!!)

what else do I need?

what about the clutch? is that the same as the n/a? (i dont think so)

Mark_Dorman · 04-24-2009, 06:04 PM

no...you need a custom clutch with 21 splines (I think) and a turbo pressure plate.

Maruki-kun · 05-02-2009, 09:17 PM

List updated, post if you think there is anything else to add.

fvillota · 05-02-2009, 09:46 PM

i think this time its good to go!

Levi · 05-09-2009, 12:14 PM

Going to need:

-AFM, stock airbox or a AFM Adapter+Cone Filter

-Ignitor/Coil

-You might need to pull the 4th ecu plug as well, its used in the new harness.

-Should also do water pump, timing belt, spark plugs, thermostat

-new throwout bearing

-flywheel MT bolts

Heres my thread about my costs:
http://www.mr2.com/forums/mk-2-v6/To...rts-other.html

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Maruki-kun Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Millington, MD Posts: 2,487 Thanks: 9 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	How much approximately does a 3VZ swap cost? Anyone got a tally on theirs? 3VZ: $216 (Crazy Rays) 3VZ ECU: $30 (crazy rays for this one) 3VZ Flywheel: looking around for price, probably $120 Custom Clutch System: $350 Wiring harness: $350 (thanks Mr220v!) Tranny: not needed, stock is fine Fuel Pump: not needed, stock is fine Rebuild Kit: $300 Custom Y pipe: $150 (have friends. lol) Custom Passenger side motor mount: $180 Last edited by Maruki-kun; 07-05-2009 at 02:47 PM..

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03-29-2009, 04:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Gairloch Dreaming of apexes Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,313 Thanks: 139 Thanked 296 Times in 264 Posts Blog Entries: 4 My Google Map iTrader Rating: (7/100% )	Somewhere between $200 - $200k Most v6 swaps end up being between $2k - $5k

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Oteck Eye'm the Str⑨ngest Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Burnaby B.C. Posts: 4,947 Thanks: 12 Thanked 173 Times in 157 Posts Blog Entries: 3 iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	engine x 5 = cost

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mr2greasemonkey Once again....yups Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,658 Thanks: 4 Thanked 63 Times in 42 Posts iTrader Rating: (0/0% )	I'm at bout $500 on this one, but then again lots of it was donated, heh.

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Jason.MZW20 Pig Snout Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Victorville, CA Posts: 1,373 Thanks: 15 Thanked 111 Times in 102 Posts Blog Entries: 6 iTrader Rating: (2/100% )	It really depends. Since the 3VZ was only offered during the 92-93 model years, you're more than likely to find one with over 100k miles on it unless it came from Japan. If you rebuild it yourself, you can save a lot of money. Or you can save even more money by just putting it in the car, but I'd at least do the seals because why put another leaky engine in after all that hard work? You get what you pay for and spend time on basically. If you can wire and fabricate exhaust pipes and the passenger side motor mount, that's more money you save. Since you have an N/A, you'll need a new fuel pump, so you'll have to drop the tank. And if you use the E53/E153, you need the turbo hubs and axles along with the V6 intermediate shaft and carrier bearing which also needs a slight modification. If you use the S54, you'll have a car that accelerates quite well, but the trade-off is the high cruising RPM on the freeway and ratios which don't suit the torque curve of the 3VZ well at all.

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Mark_Dorman So long MR2's... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 4,666 Thanks: 97 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (26/100% )	I've got about $800 into my 3VZ project so far. I Still need: -1mz flywheel -Passenger side motor mount -Custom cat back exhaust -Turbo Axles & Hubs I'm guessing my grand total will be around $1500 by the end.

04-24-2009, 12:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
Maruki-kun Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Millington, MD Posts: 2,487 Thanks: 9 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	Okay well my list of prices that I am aware of is this: is there a tranny I can use out of any other car then the MR2? Like, can I find one of these LSD tranny's somewhere else like in a solara/camry/corolla? 3VZ: $185 (thanks crazy rays!) Wireing harness: $350 (thanks Mr220v!) Tranny: $100 (thanks again crazy rays!) Fuel Pump: $100 (thanks shopping.google.com!) Flywheel: $80 (thanks ebay!) Rebuild Kit: $300 (Thanks ebay!!!!) what else do I need?

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Mark_Dorman So long MR2's... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 4,666 Thanks: 97 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (26/100% )	Custom motor mount, exhaust manifolds (and custom b-pipe), and any accessories you're missing...

04-24-2009, 12:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mark_Dorman So long MR2's... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 4,666 Thanks: 97 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (26/100% )	Sounds like you're set. The stock manifolds work just fine. The Tach just needs a little mod that can be found in the sticky section.

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Maruki-kun Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Millington, MD Posts: 2,487 Thanks: 9 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	and what about the tranny?

04-24-2009, 02:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mark_Dorman So long MR2's... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 4,666 Thanks: 97 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (26/100% )	You can use the NA tranny or the Turbo trans. Here's my thread on peoples opinions of them. Another popular choice is s51 internals in the s54 bellhousing. http://www.mr2.com/forums/mk-2-v6/To...sion-poll.html

04-24-2009, 02:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
Maruki-kun Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Millington, MD Posts: 2,487 Thanks: 9 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	so I could use my NA tranny until I can buy a turbo LSD tranny?

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Oteck Eye'm the Str⑨ngest Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Burnaby B.C. Posts: 4,947 Thanks: 12 Thanked 173 Times in 157 Posts Blog Entries: 3 iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	I think you should read/visit the knowledge base a few more times

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Mark_Dorman So long MR2's... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 4,666 Thanks: 97 Thanked 86 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1 iTrader Rating: (26/100% )	no...you need a custom clutch with 21 splines (I think) and a turbo pressure plate.

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Maruki-kun Cage Fighter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Millington, MD Posts: 2,487 Thanks: 9 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts My Google Map iTrader Rating: (5/100% )	List updated, post if you think there is anything else to add.

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fvillota Did you just press that? Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 2,539 Thanks: 73 Thanked 52 Times in 52 Posts iTrader Rating: (11/100% )	i think this time its good to go!

05-09-2009, 12:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
Levi Cage Fighter Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 225 Thanks: 4 Thanked 15 Times in 9 Posts iTrader Rating: (1/100% )	Going to need: -AFM, stock airbox or a AFM Adapter+Cone Filter -Ignitor/Coil -You might need to pull the 4th ecu plug as well, its used in the new harness. -Should also do water pump, timing belt, spark plugs, thermostat -new throwout bearing -flywheel MT bolts Heres my thread about my costs: http://www.mr2.com/forums/mk-2-v6/To...rts-other.html