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Old 09-27-2009, 08:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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easiest v6 swap?

here is question, im just curious whats easiest v6 engine to drop into a MKII sw20 chassis
before i start research how to do it
im curious what everyone has gone thru on there v6 swaps, they have done with there mr2's
i could find what i was looking for.. sorry didnt go to far on forums either
i found website gives stats and stuff, but not on how the swap is done

id rather leave the motor mounts,
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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all of them require you to custom build a motor mount for the passenger side...
All of them will use 3 of the transmission mounts from the MR2 transmission of your choice...
All of them require you to do custom wiring...
All of them require custom cooling lines...
All of them require custom ______________...

All of them require patience, money, and know-how...



Patience, yeah, yeah, yeah... how long will that take?
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Old 09-27-2009, 11:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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guh, i'm more reluctant to help others when they don't do their homework (research) before asking that same old question.
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Old 09-28-2009, 12:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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thanx i guess... i came across a walkthrough someone did
while searching the forums describes alot
to bad didnt havent anything nice to say
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The easiest swap was mine.
Step one: Write a check.
Step two: Drive home in V6 MR2.
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Old 10-25-2009, 03:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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ill help ya mine, 3vz obd1 no codes!!! fits like a glove , requires one costum motor mount , alittle wiring, and then Torque city!
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The easiest swap was mine.
Step one: Write a check.
Step two: Drive home in V6 MR2.
ty, but i like to do the work myself on my own car
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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ill help ya mine, 3vz obd1 no codes!!! fits like a glove , requires one costum motor mount , alittle wiring, and then Torque city!
what about transmission and stuff?

i read to what i believe the solora engine can use the standard mr2 tranny
with a custom clutch? i found a walkthrough on it, so far the parts i have found online are to be a lil cheaper then the walkthrough

i just wanna decide onto somehting before i go poking around in the engine bay

i also read not much room after installing the solora engine to fit a turbo without alot of custom made pieces
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i have a 93 lsd turbo tranny bolted right up to my jdm 3vz
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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what about transmission and stuff?

i read to what i believe the solora engine can use the standard mr2 tranny
with a custom clutch? i found a walkthrough on it, so far the parts i have found online are to be a lil cheaper then the walkthrough

i just wanna decide onto somehting before i go poking around in the engine bay

i also read not much room after installing the solora engine to fit a turbo without alot of custom made pieces

The tranny bolts up but the flywheels are different patterns, the 3sgte flywheel can be slotted to fit (as can the smaller 3sge one I think), not sure about the 5sfe flywheel I haven't ****ed with the 5sfe at all so don't know much about them. You can use the turbo flywheel and pressure plate with an n/a clutch disc that works alright (that is "custom"), you can get a turbo plate made with the n/a spline but that is a bit overkill with the n/a box since its open and just spins a tyre when pushed.
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Has anyone noticed any adverse effects from the extra bit of weight in the 3VZ? I would consider the 1MZ for a few reasons.

1. It's been done before (same goes for 3VZ)
2. Aluminum block is light weight
3. Little smoother than the 3VZ
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The tranny bolts up but the flywheels are different patterns, the 3sgte flywheel can be slotted to fit (as can the smaller 3sge one I think), not sure about the 5sfe flywheel I haven't ****ed with the 5sfe at all so don't know much about them. You can use the turbo flywheel and pressure plate with an n/a clutch disc that works alright (that is "custom"), you can get a turbo plate made with the n/a spline but that is a bit overkill with the n/a box since its open and just spins a tyre when pushed.
There are OEM and aftermarket LSDs for the S series transaxles, both clutch and helical based, which are superior to the OEM E series viscous LSD. An LSD is not necessary for stock V6s, and typically hinders the handling performance of a car unless you're autocrossing. For road tracks, it's useful to have the differing rear wheel speeds of an open differential to aid in direction change. A disadvantage is during tight hairpins while trying to be aggressive with the throttle, but a good driver can compensate for that (or an electronically adjustable diff ). Use an LSD when you can no longer put power down efficiently. Don't just put one on because you think it's cool.

To make things simpler, use the 3VZ flywheel and pressure plate, and match the clutch disc to whatever transaxle you're using. If an S54, order a clutch disc for an N/A or have a clutch company make an E series disc with S series splines.

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3vz is better
1)ob1 less sensitive to cel
2)much cheaper!
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ty, but i like to do the work myself on my own car
It was a joke; though I did do that.
I am about to replace the motor(seized, no oil, random accident) with another 5VZ. I will redo the extra motor mount, since mine is super ghetto. I will wire it better than before. I am looking forward to doing all the work myself.

Make your pick and go for it.

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There are OEM and aftermarket LSDs for the S series transaxles, both clutch and helical based, which are superior to the OEM E series viscous LSD. An LSD is not necessary for stock V6s, and typically hinders the handling performance of a car unless you're autocrossing. For road tracks, it's useful to have the differing rear wheel speeds of an open differential to aid in direction change. A disadvantage is during tight hairpins while trying to be aggressive with the throttle, but a good driver can compensate for that (or an electronically adjustable diff ). Use an LSD if you're putting out more than 300 flywheel torque (~260wtq).

To make things simpler, use the 3VZ flywheel and pressure plate, and match the clutch disc to whatever transaxle you're using. If an S54, order a clutch disc for an N/A or have a clutch company make an E series disc with S series splines.
Good info but i wasn't saying anything about the box just that the wheels will spin before the clutch with an open diff on launching so you don't really need the turbo clutch discs extra bite. The lsd box will spin an n/a clutch plate even with a 3sge behind it ask MR JAS
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Ah, that would make sense. I haven't read anything about 1MZ cost
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