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    8k+ rpm v6... Build?? or not to build...

    What is the best v6 that can pull out high rpm, and great HP. I would like to turbo/sc later if possible, but could live with high rpm v6.
    I own a 91 na mr2 mk2.

    3vzfe, or what v6 could I swap in and have bored, stroked, or what ever to an insane redline that will still pull power from buck to bang.?

    I wish I could pull out 8k rpm with wide power band in my real world scenario.

    $Money is not an obstetrical at this point...

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    Or should I abandon the quest and build out an ATS 2.3l short block up to a 3sgte? 8k rpm achieved + turbo..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR2Japan View Post
    Or should I abandon the quest and build out an ATS 2.3l short block up to a 3sgte? 8k rpm achieved + turbo..
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    Maybe what I said is not true here...

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    3vz likes to rev from what ive heard. and my vote BUILD IT. and set the limit to 9000. why stop at 8? its no secret around here that i LOVE an engine that will rev. and i like to rev the nuts off of em. except my 2. it never even sees above 4500. until i rebuild it that is...
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    any engine can be built to rev but if you got money just dump the 3vz for something Lighter and newer (mz/gr). To the point of getting past stock redline your already going to be using standalone

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    oh yea, before i forget, check into 2jz rods and bearings if you wanna spin it really high. so long as its a 3.0, should work

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonguitars4life View Post
    oh yea, before i forget, check into 2jz rods and bearings if you wanna spin it really high. so long as its a 3.0, should work
    2JZ stroke is 86, 1MZ stroke is 83, 3VZ stroke is 82...... dunno if that would work out.

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    why? you can get 22r eagle rods and machine them down or buy the pricy pauter rods. I'd love to get me some beefy rods when i get time to do a high compression built on my spare 3mz hybrid i got sitting. Originally plotted to put a 2mz crank and destroke it to a 2.7 but i decided not to and just get it nicely balanced instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Worry, It's Just Me View Post
    2JZ stroke is 86, 1MZ stroke is 83, 3VZ stroke is 82...... dunno if that would work out.
    exactly, 2jz rods are shorter by 4mm. that would lower the c/r to run a turbo on high boost. think the stock ratio on a 3vz is 9.0:1, so that should put it right around 8ish. so he gets a stronger part made for stupid amounts of power, easier to find, and can rev the dogshit out of it. and im talkin about eagles or any other mfg than stock. gonna do it, do it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonguitars4life View Post
    exactly, 2jz rods are shorter by 4mm. that would lower the c/r to run a turbo on high boost. think the stock ratio on a 3vz is 9.0:1, so that should put it right around 8ish. so he gets a stronger part made for stupid amounts of power, easier to find, and can rev the dogshit out of it. and im talkin about eagles or any other mfg than stock. gonna do it, do it right.
    Ok I see where your coming from if he goes the turbo route....... I was just going by the mentioning of high reving....... Cuz smaller stroke = higher rev capabilities.......... Or so I thought. Am I wrong?

    I'd still vote for a build 1mz over a 3vz.
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    Even better.. What should I do for $5k? Could save up a bit more if needed.
    Reliable, quick revs, nothing that messes with weight to much, high revs, nice hp, upgradeable hp if desired (maybe if I wanted turbo route). I do like the idea of 3GR-FSE. Anyhow.. Suggestions..?

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    If you want to.go that route why not just do a 2gr??? Already proven to fit in an Mr2. Only problem is there's not much room after the swap to anything else to be done....... Atleast with a 1mz there is still room for maybe a turbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Worry, It's Just Me View Post
    If you want to.go that route why not just do a 2gr??? Already proven to fit in an Mr2. Only problem is there's not much room after the swap to anything else to be done....... Atleast with a 1mz there is still room for maybe a turbo.
    Gouky was out there trying to setup a Rotrex C38 supercharger kit, sure it may not be an actual big piece of forced induction but it can juice out some power.
    I don't know if he ran out of time or what not but I think it was possible, I believe there was enough room to do so.

    Here is the old thread from a while back.
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    What about a trunk mounted turbo set-up for the 2GR? I know in the past I have seen them for the 5VZ and it worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phzoinkMKII View Post
    What about a trunk mounted turbo set-up for the 2GR? I know in the past I have seen them for the 5VZ and it worked.
    I guess you COULD do that.......... But cutting holes in an Mr2 is just wrong and should be made illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phzoinkMKII View Post
    What about a trunk mounted turbo set-up for the 2GR? I know in the past I have seen them for the 5VZ and it worked.
    nah i would do a remote mount under the car. place it just behind the crossmember so it doesnt get it by crap you run over. much better than slicing up the metal on a rare car. and personally id go 3vz all the way for high revs. theyve got the strongest bottom end and have you seen the bearing caps? 3vz is strong strong strong. better for turbo. 1mz is better for weight/supercharging/obd2 compliance. edit: just also read that the factory rev limit for 3vz is 6900, 1mz is 6600, 2gr is 6800, 2jz(not that it really matters here, no way itd fit) 7200 5vz is 5800 and 2vz (has anybody ever seriously even thought about this?) 7100. I wouldnt even think of the 2vz though, even though it is a 2.5l, its not like the probe gt 2.5 that can be built easily and have the shit revved out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Worry, It's Just Me View Post
    If you want to.go that route why not just do a 2gr??? Already proven to fit in an Mr2. Only problem is there's not much room after the swap to anything else to be done....... Atleast with a 1mz there is still room for maybe a turbo.
    2gr with a turbo? haha the look on peoples faces when you blow their expensive new cars away that sounds win-win to me

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    Don't forget you can Oteck a 3mz/1mz hybrid.

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    all this talk of 2jz, id love to see a vertically mounted 2j in an mr2, even though i agree mr2s should never be cut up for swaps, it would look sick having a big I6 tubro back there. probably screw the weight distribution and probably impossible, but it would just be bad ass haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by rat2mr2 View Post
    all this talk of 2jz, id love to see a vertically mounted 2j in an mr2, even though i agree mr2s should never be cut up for swaps, it would look sick having a big I6 tubro back there. probably screw the weight distribution and probably impossible, but it would just be bad ass haha
    We weren't saying put a 2jz back there. It was mentioned using 2jz rods in a 3vz.

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