V6 Dyno Collection

[Poohhbear9044]

Just took part in a Dyno day myself and my NA 3VZ-FE managed a healthy 208.6 fwhp (173 whp) & 215 ft lb of torque...when I manage to get the printout scanned I will post it up.



Bob

[Poohhbear9044]

Graph now added.



Bob

[jdchmiel]

can you add the wheel hp specs you posted from the otther board please?

[Poohhbear9044]

See my post above the one with the dyno sheet....173 whp

bob

[hot-chili]

Now I correct my wrong V6 diagrams. I make a rpm correction about my wheels and the 4 gear with 4,05

Here now my old V6 torque (black pointed) and new Nm curve (yellow pointed) at the power KW curve (big black) change nothing.
The bottom scale is km/h (1,6 km/h = 1miles) not rpm.


My V6 has now 153,3KW= 208,5PS engine hp at 162,5km/h (102miles) at 4 gear, this are 5850rpm and 287Nm at 125km/h (78miles) at 4 gear, this are 4500rpm

Here are all curves of 5 german engines, 3S-GE with 156PS, 3S-GE with 170PS, my V6, 3S-GTE GEN3 at 1bar and GEN3 Turbo at 1,4bar.


Good to see, that the V6 is better then the turbos until 90km/h or 3200rpm and that the V6 has 50-60% more torque then the 3S-GE.

[4v6]

This is the result for Matts engine (splintermcinnes on TB) with the heads i did.

AFR's are all shot to hell so should likely end up better, first two are at the wheels red is before figures.

[Gouky]

stock 2GRFE in MKII


here it is in the engine bay:

[Mark_Dorman]

Not the best looking engine...but sick! That power curve is sweet. Also the wheel HP is almost as high as the factory rated crank numbers. I'm guessing the intake and custom exhaust helps with all that? Very nice...I followed your thread on the other board and was very impressed. I might be picking that kit up from you in the future if I can source a 2GR

[Gouky]

Originally Posted by Mark_Dorman

Not the best looking engine...but sick! That power curve is sweet. Also the wheel HP is almost as high as the factory rated crank numbers. I'm guessing the intake and custom exhaust helps with all that? Very nice...I followed your thread on the other board and was very impressed. I might be picking that kit up from you in the future if I can source a 2GR

I agree it isn't the best looking engine bay, but that's actually getting fixed. the car is getting repainted and the valve covers are getting body color painted. the rest of the engine is getting cleaned and so is the transmission. it'll look showroom new when it gets back on the road here in less than a month. my initial focus was to get the swap done without getting bogged down in details that did not affect the running of the car.

that dyno chart is actually with a 5% down rating because the weather was a bit cold that day (they actually measured 291HP to the ground). but i suspect that the new ECUs don't loose power quite like the old ones when the temperature changes. after i get the equal length headers made with the equal length y pipe (which i'll be selling soon also), i suspect I'll be able to hit 300-310HP to the ground and i'll do it on a 70-80* day so the dyno doesn't have a correction factor. also, having a clutch that dosen't start slipping at 6200 will allow me to measure the last 300RPM's of the chart. there's a few more HP up there.

also, as it stands, the motor runs quite close to stoichiometic even at full throttle, I'm going to experiment with fattening up the mixture at the top to see if i can gain a bit more HP there also.

I'll also get 1/4 mile times this summer. I think it can break into the 11's without any kind of forced induction or aftermarket ECU.

[Mark_Dorman]

That's impressive. How is the throttle response with the drive by wire? I've heard a lot of people complain about toyota DBW but don't have any experience with it.

Definitely looking forward to all your products for this motor. 300 hp NA V6...can you say glorious!?! What tranny are you using?

[Gouky]

Originally Posted by Mark_Dorman

That's impressive. How is the throttle response with the drive by wire? I've heard a lot of people complain about toyota DBW but don't have any experience with it.

Definitely looking forward to all your products for this motor. 300 hp NA V6...can you say glorious!?! What tranny are you using?

the DBW on this perticular ECU is quite nice. the reaction is instant. there's a 1/2 second lag if the ECU things the transmission isn't in drive, but if you connect the wiring harness properly (just two wires together) it reacts like a sports car should.

here you can see how I mounted the pedal (i sell that adapter with the kit)


for putting the power to the ground I was originaly using the exeedy stage 2 clutch & PP with a 1MZ fidanza flywheel and a stock E153 trans from my 1994 turbo. I roasted that clutch disk in about 3000 miles. when i pulled it out, the disk was warped and the pressure plate was cracked from the heat. thankfully it did not shatter. the fidanza was heat scorched but holding up amazingly well.

so when it goes back in after the car gets repainted (just a few more weeks tops) i'll be using the same fidanza with a new friction disk, a 6 puck ACT clutch with their HD pressure plate (one step up from stock pressure) backed by a stock E153 transmission with camry 3.625 final drive, new synchros and a quaife diff.

the lightweight flywheel allows the engine to rev from idle to red-line under a second, the exhaust ramp up note when doing that will make any car guy soil themselves.

[antnkel]

Here's a dyno I had done today, car's not running quite right at the mo with it being a bit lean in the mid revs but is still producing power at 6000rpm's which I though was pretty good only thing is it hit the rev limit at this point for some reason.
Not to bothered about the figures as this one says 153 at the wheels and my last one said 173 at the wheels just goes to show all dyno's are different

[tucky]

[AndrewMcG]

^Maybe some details? What motor? What mods? Supercharged 1mz I assume? What psi pulley? Etc...

[Jason.MZW20]

Originally Posted by AndrewMcG

^Maybe some details? What motor? What mods? Supercharged 1mz I assume? What psi pulley? Etc...

It's in his signature. It is a supercharged 1MZ running 4 psi.

This caught my attention. Interesting exhaust routing:

[tucky]

Sorry guys, 1mz, trd supercharger running 4psi, custon manifolds and de cat exhaust.

[conor]

[OlberJ]

Another one for you i got done a couple weeks ago.





Unopened 95 1MZFE with separate downpoops to backbox inlets and Apexi Induction kit.

Going back for a re-run soon with some electronic tweaks to see if they make any difference. Will post back up the results.

[lateralG's]

This is the swap Brad Bedell did for me. His custom headers and exhaust, no cats, ebay intake, fidanza flywheel, stock ecu. The drop offs in the A/F were due to the tester releasing the throttle as he thought it was running too lean. I insisted he hold it all the way for the third run. I had run an HPDE the previous weekend without incident with lots of WOT. Since this dyno, I have installed Mitch's PVC intake liner "fix" to bring the airflow over the meter back into spec. Also, this is an 01 Avalon engine with 24k on it using an '00 ecu. The tranny case is stock and the internals came from an 01 Solara. IIRC he used a Clutchmaster clutch. It is in a Superwhite 93 Turbo chassis.

[ShiftyJ]

my '96 1mz-fe, not-perfect custom y-pipe, no cat, stock N/A muffler, no acis canister, and a not-quite-faked-out auto trans computer (see the dip/hesitation at 5200 rpm).
4th gear pull.


and the video: (two pulls; one at the start from the front of the car, one at the end of the video from the rear).

YouTube - MR2 V6 on Dyno